fx 8350 is.
i think harshil meant the i5, not the fx.
ohh and please check, i think the guy probably tried to oc his cpu hence the burn. There is absolutely no problem with using an el-cheapo motherboard.
as i have mentioned earlier, as long as you dont overvolt, you are fine. End of story.
yes of course, he oced it. but u think people buying an FX will not try any overclock in future? spending 2-3k more than those 4k mobos gives u better board with better VRM, more efficient power delivery to cpu.
and u get peace of mind.
lol, i already mentioned no overvolting. no and i dont think ocing a cpu which can pull 200w from the wall is a good idea, no matter how good a motherboard you are using. and it really isnt a very fair argument. you dont build a budget pc for overclocking, if you want to overclock just try and spend a minimum extra 20k.
anyways, overvolting of any cpu component causes reduced life. If you are using it on standard stock configurations a pc can last you 10-15 years easily.
1. fx 8350 is 12k cpu which by no means is a budget cpu. u wont put it in a 40-50k 'whole' pc rig.
2. overclocking doesnt mean over volting.
3. who runs a pc 10-15 years for gaming? u still use a pentium 3?
if u have the right component to overclock and u know what u are doing, then it isnt that dangerous.
thats what is the point of me posting those links, use right component.
NoasArcAngel, Do you think anyone here is going to keep your PC for 15 years? AMD Black Editions and Intel K series are designed to run at their standard clock speed and really do have best part of the silicon wafer. So overclocking will reduce life span for those Processors which are designed for overclocking is not really a good assumption. So getting a el cheapo motherboard with a high end processor is not at all recommended, even if you are not doing some serious overclocking.
get your facts right, the processors no matter how extreme it is built on the same damn, silicon wafer. So lets try and not even go into that area, it does reduce the overall life of the component. And ask any electronics engineer about it.
Regarding the benchmark results you have posted, isn't clear that Far Cry 3 is more of a GPU dependent game rather than CPU? Granted i3 is beating FX-8350 but it is also performing same as the i5 3550 which is twice costlier than the i3 3220 in India. So the game is not at all using the potentials of any of the high end CPU tested over there. In Tomb Raider scaling, isn't it clear how a dual core CPU is suffering to keep up with the cheapest Quad Cores from AMD? And as always, when it comes to post game benchmarks, you forgot to post about the Crysis 3 benchmark. Reason: It shows how a multi-threaded optimized game scales better in processors with 4 or higher cores. Here i3 3220 gets beaten by even Trinity A8-5600K which when paired with a powerful GPU like GTX 680, and not by 1 or 2 FPS but by 10+ FPS, even the APUs lacks L3 Cache.
You are also not considering the facts that most of the game developers are stating that all their futures titles are gonna be optimized for multi-core CPU.
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I did some study some engineering in some phases of my life and I do have a little inside about how a silicon wafer is turned into a Chip and no doubt I have a better understanding that you do.
You got a serious problem mate, serous one, for biasing your posts. And 1024X768, ask OP if he is going to play game on that resolution.
Here is the benchmark:
the question to ask op is if he will play on medium settings
ofcourse you have a better understanding than me, im just some jock on some forum posting replies which piss of people.
its amazing to see how the fx 8350 only has 4 more minimum fps than the i3 3220.
the case in point : game is unplayable. since minimum fps < 30
Having said that, AMD's FX-8350 provides serviceable Crysis 3 game play. Despite the frame rate valley we experienced in our benchmark run, this CPU achieves smoother performance on average. Perhaps this is something Crytek will be able to address through a future update.
so since u posted a bench from toms, it was good if u had read this below -
that minimum 21 fps can mean a lot of things unless u provide a fps chart over time
so in this case u will have to rely on their write up.
If you don't like tomshardware's conclusion who actuality tested it by playing the game n watching all the ups n down then don't post graph from their site. You are at the end not as talented as them.
And regarding what you've posted about yourself is pretty much right. You are really that.
Don't question me about what I know, I only post what I know unlike you. I have hands on experience in VLSI chip design in one of the Research institute in India n I really understand how things work inside a chip unlike you for whom previews are only hope although you don't understand them.
Most surprising to us is Crysis 3's processor requirements. Our benchmark sequence revealed a huge bottleneck that required a Core i5 or i7 just to maintain a 30 FPS minimum frame rate. Although AMD's FX-8350 achieved an average frame rate equivalent to the Core i5-3550, its minimum dips to 21 FPS, causing us to back off from awarding a full recommendation. If a performance-enhancing patch is rolled out, as it was with Skyrim, we'll certainly reconsider.
In the above config, change the following things:-
MOTHERBOARD : Asus M5a990fx r2.0 @ 10.2k
HDD: Toshiba 2 TB
PSU: Seasonic S12II 620
Also the price of the gpu is not 20k, it is 21.5k including VAT
NoacArcAngle, even the avg fps is also higher in Crysis 3 with the higher core processors. What are you trying to prove?
In FC3, both 3570 and fx-8350 are neck to neck and the 3k extra price isn't justified. In Crysis 3, Fx8350 is ahead. In fact, Crysis 3 is happy to use 12 threads of 3960X and really scaling well in all the cores.
Isn't it you who was asking about me being have some knowledge about Electronics Engineering? Now when I said I do have some, you went nuts...what's the problem, can't accept it? Frankly, did you even see a PCB in paper before the board was prepared? Really you don't have any idea about chip manufacturing and shouts like you are the creator of VLSI techniques.get your facts right, the processors no matter how extreme it is built on the same damn, silicon wafer. So lets try and not even go into that area, it does reduce the overall life of the component. And ask any electronics engineer about it.
Listen buddy, Its does not matter what you think of me, knowledgeable or not, its does not matter really. And its only you who thinks the forum gone crazy. The fact is quiet opposite actually. Still we get maximum number of posts asking for their PC buying guidance than any other forums and each of them gets satisfied by our suggestions and get it clear, nobody takes you seriously, no matter how much you shout with your posts.
Why I am working here and not there, that is a entirely different question but I just stated that I have some knowledge about inside of architecture and semiconductor manufacturing process due to my training in different phases.
Isn't it you who was asking about me being have some knowledge about Electronics Engineering? Now when I said I do have some, you went nuts...what's the problem, can't accept it? Frankly, did you even see a PCB in paper before the board was prepared? Really you don't have any idea about chip manufacturing and shouts like you are the creator of VLSI techniques.
Let me justify: In Tomshardware system builder marathon, they don't include the AMD processors because the price is pretty different in India and US. Here you need to pay 11.5K for getting a 3570K, we need to pay 14.5K+ whereas in US both are available at the same price range, around $200. I don't understand why this simple fact didn't get inside your head, probably too thick to penetrate.