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Extreme Gamer

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Windows 7 looks at a BD module as a hyperthreaded core...when it actually functions as two full cores.

Windows 8 on the other hand...

M$ will be patching W7 soon for BD. So hold your horses guys.
 

max_snyper

Maximum Effort!!!!!!
^^dude get it right...performance is the only problem with BD....power consumption is just another side kick for performance on BD...:)
@Skud 65$...provides a plethora of upgrades for the gamer
i just gave an example....anyone could go for ram,mobo,gpu,psu,cabby,hdd....u name it!
 

MegaMind

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Windows 7 looks at a BD module as a hyperthreaded core...when it actually functions as two full cores.

Windows 8 on the other hand...

M$ will be patching W7 soon for BD. So hold your horses guys.

Not that much of a performance boost...
And almost ZERO perf. boost in gaming..
 

Extreme Gamer

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The point is that bulldozer will shine when Windows 7 is updated(read fixed).
If you disable two modules and run an 8150 as a 4 core 2 module chip, you get better performance in games.
The OS is not able to assign the core affinity properly, because only 4 cores 8 threads are recognized. The 2nd core of each module is not used by Windows to execute tasks.

BD has been designed as a future proof chip. Its like although the 8800GTS 512 was faster than 8800GTX, when a game used more than 512MB VRAM, the 8800GTX handled it better.
BD will butt-rape any Intel chip so far (non-xeon 8/10 core; and SB-E/EP because we have no solid numbers yet) if you run a software capable of using the 8 cores.
 

topgear

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AMD Bulldozer is available at SMC

Price list of BD CPUs from SMC:-

CPU | Price
FX4100|6575
FX6100|10175
FX8120|12025
FX8150|14225

Some more update on HDD prices:-

KitGuru reveals the timeline for hard drive price reductions | KitGuru

thanks for the availability and price info - if BD cpus starting from FX6100 can be cheaper by 2-3k then they will be a good deal IMO ;-)
 

Cilus

laborare est orare
Windows 7 looks at a BD module as a hyperthreaded core...when it actually functions as two full cores.

Windows 8 on the other hand...

M$ will be patching W7 soon for BD. So hold your horses guys.

Windows doesn't look BD modules as HT cores, it thinks they are separate 8 cores whereas they are only 8 discrete integer cores and with 1 shares FP unit per module, and assign threads to it.
The main problem is it cannot differentiate between a module which contains two cores. This result un-optimized workload assumption. In fact if it could look it as 2 HT cores of a module, things could have been different.
It prevents the proper assignment of threads, prevents Turbo core functions to be started properly.

For details, please read here
 

topgear

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Staff member
Don't know, if the 8120 comes down to 10k, it will look good on paper at least. Also we need cheaper mobos (where's 970 chipset) asap.


BTW, this looks like the last nail in BD's coffin as a gamer's choice:-

HARDOCP - Introduction - AMD FX-8150 Multi-GPU Gameplay Performance Review

Asus M5A97 ( AMD 970/SB950 ) is available @ 5.9k;-)

Windows doesn't look BD modules as HT cores, it thinks they are separate 8 cores whereas they are only 8 discrete integer cores and with 1 shares FP unit per module, and assign threads to it.
The main problem is it cannot differentiate between a module which contains two cores. This result un-optimized workload assumption. In fact if it could look it as 2 HT cores of a module, things could have been different.
It prevents the proper assignment of threads, prevents Turbo core functions to be started properly.

For details, please read here

nice explanation - MS should release a fix for win 7 so that BD cpus can perform the way they meant to be played ;-)
 
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