Graphics Cards related queries here.

[coderunknown]

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guys is there a rule of thumb to find out if one's cpu\gpu is the bottleneck??

no. theres no rule & the CPU/GPU bottleneck depends on many factors like the graphics card, its memory, processor & yes the resolution you are gaming at.

what can i do to so that my HD6870 and my on board graphic card HD4250 can work hybridly?

HD6870 is many many times faster than the IGP. it just can't be compared to IGP. if by using some modded driver you able to Xfire both, the maximum performance increment will be around 1% or maybe less.

 

[vickybat]

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well sam ,hdknitro was asking about hybrid xfire and not xfire. I guess he wants his 6870 to completely shut off and use igp when not doing graphically intensive tasks and the reverse when doing otherwise.

 

[Reaper_vivek]

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what can i do to so that my HD6870 and my on board graphic card HD4250 can work hybridly?

Hybrid crossfire only works with pretty old cards like the HD 3xxx series and earlier ones...

 

[papashango_cs]

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^^ don't post same thing on two different threads ! Rest assured someone will read your post and reply back to you.

Install GTA4 once more - get the original version anyway- it's really cheap and update it with latest patches 1.0.0.7 or something like that.

Same goes for GTA4 EFLC.

GTA4 is a more cpu hungry game than gpu - so if you've installed cnq then before starting GTA4 set power scheme to always on - I've faced similar kind of in cryostasis and it was fixed by this trick.

BTw, are you using the latest version of gfx drivers, drirectX and at waht resolution you are playing anyway.



HD5770 is more powerful than GTS450.

HD5770 does not support Hybrid CFX with mobos onboard gfx.

hehe , thanks ! i worry if people on the other thread dont reply
ok ,1st im getting one original copy of the game
then i'l keep it updated,
one thing, see this
Grand Theft Auto 4 EFLC, And Announcing Part 2 : The Game Rundown: Finding CPU/GPU Bottlenecks, Part 1
silly question - how do i check if the gta is using all my 4 cores ?

 

[coderunknown]

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well sam ,hdknitro was asking about hybrid xfire and not xfire. I guess he wants his 6870 to completely shut off and use igp when not doing graphically intensive tasks and the reverse when doing otherwise.

i know. i just missed the word but i mentioned about IGP & discrete graphics. so it much be hybrid Xfire.

if he wants something like what Nvidia Optimus, well i guess it is not possible. again a hacked Optimus for AMD will work but may take a severe beating in FPS count. but if he wants real Hybrid Xfire, its not worth & may slow down the HD6870.

Hybrid crossfire only works with pretty old cards like the HD 3xxx series and earlier ones...

i think officially, all entry level cards from AMD works in Hybrid Xfire. but not the HD4650.

 

[vishalg]

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no. theres no rule & the CPU/GPU bottleneck depends on many factors like the graphics card, its memory, processor & yes the resolution you are gaming at.

okie

does amd phenom II x4 955be+asus eah 6850+2x2gb corsair 1333 @ 1440x900

sounds good??

 

[azaad_shri75]

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^ you can play full hd if your display supports it.

 

[vishalg]

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currently i am using my old 19" viewsonic with max 1440 res, although i am planning to upgrade to a 22" full hd in near future

 

[almightyrohit]

GTX 570 or ATI 6970

Hey guys, I am upgrading my system in the next few weeks.

Right now, I have zeroed on:

MB: ASUS Sabertooth X58
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws 3x2GB 240-Pin DDR3 1600 CL8
Processor: Intel Core i7 950

Already have: BenQ G2420 HD, CoolerMaster 750W SMPS, Creative T6100, UMAX Terminator Cabinet.

About the Graphic Card: Since bottleneck in most of the Games is GPU, I have decided to invest a little more in Graphic Card. My current favorite is GTX 570 but I am also considering 6970 since both of them are priced same. My current system has 9800 GTX+ which is an amazing graphic card so I love nVIDIA and tend to favour their products.

What say you guys? Have I chosen the parts correctly? Do you think I should wait for Jan 5th when Intel will be announcing Sandy Bridge. Also should I buy these from Kolkata (where I am currently residing) or should I buy them from Nehru Place (will be going to Delhi in Feb)? Will I get a huge price difference? Thanks for taking time to read my post.

 

[ssb1551]

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Change the PSU from the current CM to Corsair/Seasonic/Silverstone.
Its better if you wait till 5th Jan.

 

[topgear]

Re: GTX 570 or ATI 6970

hehe , thanks ! i worry if people on the other thread dont reply
ok ,1st im getting one original copy of the game
then i'l keep it updated,
one thing, see this
Grand Theft Auto 4 EFLC, And Announcing Part 2 : The Game Rundown: Finding CPU/GPU Bottlenecks, Part 1
silly question - how do i check if the gta is using all my 4 cores ?

GTA4 has a inbuilt benchmark which show you resources usages and it's the only to to how much system resource GTA4 is using.

Hey guys, I am upgrading my system in the next few weeks.

Right now, I have zeroed on:

MB: ASUS Sabertooth X58
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws 3x2GB 240-Pin DDR3 1600 CL8
Processor: Intel Core i7 950

Already have: BenQ G2420 HD, CoolerMaster 750W SMPS, Creative T6100, UMAX Terminator Cabinet.

About the Graphic Card: Since bottleneck in most of the Games is GPU, I have decided to invest a little more in Graphic Card. My current favorite is GTX 570 but I am also considering 6970 since both of them are priced same. My current system has 9800 GTX+ which is an amazing graphic card so I love nVIDIA and tend to favour their products.

What say you guys? Have I chosen the parts correctly? Do you think I should wait for Jan 5th when Intel will be announcing Sandy Bridge. Also should I buy these from Kolkata (where I am currently residing) or should I buy them from Nehru Place (will be going to Delhi in Feb)? Will I get a huge price difference? Thanks for taking time to read my post.

GTX 570 is good card and it's price is a bit lower than HD6970.

As of now the best bet is to get a HD6950 and mod it to HD6970 but hurry up - from next batches of hd6950 you may not be able to do the trick.

 

[almightyrohit]

Re: All Graphics Cards related queries here.

Change the PSU from the current CM to Corsair/Seasonic/Silverstone.
Its better if you wait till 5th Jan.

thanks ssb. Will Corsair 750TX work for me? In the future I am planning to work with 2 monitors (both 24" LCD).

GTA4 has a inbuilt benchmark which show you resources usages and it's the only to to how much system resource GTA4 is using.



GTX 570 is good card and it's price is a bit lower than HD6970.

As of now the best bet is to get a HD6950 and mod it to HD6970 but hurry up - from next batches of hd6950 you may not be able to do the trick.

thanks TG. Haven't done any OC'ing in the past . Is there any professional who will do this in Delhi?

 

[ssb1551]

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thanks ssb. Will Corsair 750TX work for me? In the future I am planning to work with 2 monitors (both 24" LCD).

TX750 is more than enough if you are gonna use a single 570/6970.
Don't know about the dual monitor set up though.

 

[clear_lot]

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thanks TG. Haven't done any OC'ing in the past . Is there any professional who will do this in Delhi?

its not OC. its a bios flash. and its very safe with 69xx dual bios.
unlocking a 6950 is the best deal you can get now. it will upgrade to a 6970.
a 6970 is BETTER than 570 in higher resolutions. so if you plan to add a second 080p monitor, i would suggest a 69xx.
AMD Radeon HD 6950 to HD 6970 Mod | techPowerUp
here is the link to flash. its completely safe and very easy really.
no need to go to "professionals".
if you are afraid to flash bios, you can simply buy a 6970.

ATI

mediahome.in prices. not in nehru place, but in east delhi.

SMC international
check smcinternational.
its in nehru place. proably cheapest in NP, but you should also check in other shops like "computer empire" and "cost to cost".

 

[mohiuddin]

Re: GTX 570 or ATI 6970

Hey guys, I am upgrading my system in the next few weeks.

Right now, I have zeroed on:

MB: ASUS Sabertooth X58
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws 3x2GB 240-Pin DDR3 1600 CL8
Processor: Intel Core i7 950

Already have: BenQ G2420 HD, CoolerMaster 750W SMPS, Creative T6100, UMAX Terminator Cabinet.

About the Graphic Card: Since bottleneck in most of the Games is GPU, I have decided to invest a little more in Graphic Card. My current favorite is GTX 570 but I am also considering 6970 since both of them are priced same. My current system has 9800 GTX+ which is an amazing graphic card so I love nVIDIA and tend to favour their products.

What say you guys? Have I chosen the parts correctly? Do you think I should wait for Jan 5th when Intel will be announcing Sandy Bridge. Also should I buy these from Kolkata (where I am currently residing) or should I buy them from Nehru Place (will be going to Delhi in Feb)? Will I get a huge price difference? Thanks for taking time to read my post.

like topgear said, buy 6950 hurry and again hurry......then simply flash it to a 6970 , like @clear_lot said..do it hurry, u won't regret.till, 570,6970 doesn't worth their price.

X4 945 runs at 3GHz.I don't think CPU is the bottleneck here.
topgear's way might work out for him.

yea, still i think bottlenecking in lower settings

 

[clear_lot]

Re: GTX 570 or ATI 6970

Hey guys, I am upgrading my system in the next few weeks.

Right now, I have zeroed on:

MB: ASUS Sabertooth X58
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws 3x2GB 240-Pin DDR3 1600 CL8
Processor: Intel Core i7 950

Already have: BenQ G2420 HD, CoolerMaster 750W SMPS, Creative T6100, UMAX Terminator Cabinet.

About the Graphic Card: Since bottleneck in most of the Games is GPU, I have decided to invest a little more in Graphic Card. My current favorite is GTX 570 but I am also considering 6970 since both of them are priced same. My current system has 9800 GTX+ which is an amazing graphic card so I love nVIDIA and tend to favour their products.

What say you guys? Have I chosen the parts correctly? Do you think I should wait for Jan 5th when Intel will be announcing Sandy Bridge. Also should I buy these from Kolkata (where I am currently residing) or should I buy them from Nehru Place (will be going to Delhi in Feb)? Will I get a huge price difference? Thanks for taking time to read my post.

waiting for release of SB is good because it is bound to reduce the price of i5 and i7 cpu's.
also, if the system is basically for gaming, i would suggest buying a p55 mobo and a i5-760. best bang for the buck. and if you OC it to ~3.4 GHZ, you have a killer gaming machine.
in my opinion, buy a i7 only if you really know you would need all that extra cpu power over the gpu.
or if you plan to buy a nvidia and then to sli it and exclusively need x16/x16 pcie lanes.

the difference between x16/x16 and x8/x8 is less than 5%.

OR if you like to brag about owning an i7 (thats important in its own right, really)

to REALLY improve performance, i personally would buy a GOOD SSD. the money saved in going the p55 route can be spent on ssd.

or if you save/add a little more money, you can think of going fo 580. THAT WOULD BE SWEEEEEET.

 

[mohiuddin]

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^^agree.


but, totally disagree with it>>

if you save/add a little more money, you can think of going fo 580. THAT WOULD BE SWEEEEEET.[/I]

rather , buy a 6950 ,make it 6970...enough for today's gaming.if want more , buy two 6950...unlock them two.6970cfx is almost equal to 580sli.

 

[clear_lot]

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i personally like single gpu setup as

1. less power consumed
2.less heat generated.
3.no scaling issues.
4.no hassle of constantly adding cf profiles.
5. less noise.


edit: to everybody. are GOOD ssd available in delhi? not those old kingston or corsair 40/60/80 gb that probably dont even have TRIM. i mean crucial c300 or maybe revodrivex2 etc.

edit2: is this the wrong forum to ask?

 

[vickybat]

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+1 for GTX 580. Beats a 6970 fair and square anyday.

 

[tkin]

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+1 for GTX 580. Beats a 6970 fair and square anyday.

Also due to the new cooler design a GTX580 runs cooler than HD6970 while consuming more power, this heats up the surroundings a bit but keeps the card cool and quiet, amd blew the temperature edge with HD69xx series, not recommended in Indian environments.