Good news for Intel G965 Users who use integrated graphics

[mmick]

15.9 driver is coming out by end of this month/early next month and is a minimum required driver for their next generation GM45/G45 chipset with GMA X4500 IGP. 15.9 driver is also DX10 driver, but too bad G965 won't support DX10. GM965 and G35 users will get DX10 support though.

This beta version (I´m running it) does not seem to support DX10 (GM965) but it does support Shaders v3.0, at least when I set them on Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 (High Settings) it runs very well!

I tried the default setting of my GM965 15.8 (with no option to change energy savings) and the 15.9 with energy savings off and I would say that it was about 25% fast on PES 2008 and 15-20% fast from 15.9 with default energy savings vs. 15.9 energy savings off

These drivers + GM965 are getting better

 

[WH87]

This beta version (I´m running it) does not seem to support DX10 (GM965) but it does support Shaders v3.0, at least when I set them on Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 (High Settings) it runs very well!

I tried the default setting of my GM965 15.8 (with no option to change energy savings) and the 15.9 with energy savings off and I would say that it was about 25% fast on PES 2008 and 15-20% fast from 15.9 with default energy savings vs. 15.9 energy savings off

These drivers + GM965 are getting better

how do you determine if it supports dx 10 or not ? after installing the beta, i went to dxdiag, and what was previously 9ex became now 10 (ddi). have not tested any games though

 

[mmick]

how do you determine if it supports dx 10 or not ? after installing the beta, i went to dxdiag, and what was previously 9ex became now 10 (ddi). have not tested any games though

When I try to run DX10 games they don´t work, only on DX9 mode. Now shaders 3.0 seem to run better.

 

[WH87]

true, it still wont run lost demo, and still no improvement with virtua tennis either. still plays with low fps.

 

[mmick]

true, it still wont run lost demo, and still no improvement with virtua tennis either. still plays with low fps.

Well in the end you can expect up to 50% on fps increase (if so much) but nevertheless you can play most 2007 games at 640 or 800x600 LOW at decent fps. In two years we´ll have another PC with another graphics and until then *we hope* intel optimizes their drivers to use X3x00 chips at their maximum.

 

[WH87]

what i hope for is that we get such drivers b4 these games get too old (especially if its a multiplayer game, since the online mode wont be as active, in a year or so)

 

[yesh1683]

true, it still wont run lost demo, and still no improvement with virtua tennis either. still plays with low fps.

LOST game is playable
I tried Full Game it plays Smoothly @ 640 @ low the game still looks good at low settings

 

[Ethan_Hunt]

Quick question Yesh.My friend will be opting for a Compaq laptop which has an X3100 onboard based on Intel 965 chipset.Will the drivers that you have updated out here be compatible with it? What performance can we except with this mobile version of X3100?

 

[WH87]

LOST game is playable
I tried Full Game it plays Smoothly @ 640 @ low the game still looks good at low settings

i meant the dx10 version of the demo, not the dx9..

 

[s18000rpm]

which is better?
beta or the stable version drivers?

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BIOS Update for dg965WH motherboard

BIOS Update 1729 [MQ96510J.86A] (1165KB)

 

[DavidC1]

This beta version (I´m running it) does not seem to support DX10 (GM965) but it does support Shaders v3.0, at least when I set them on Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 (High Settings) it runs very well!

I tried the default setting of my GM965 15.8 (with no option to change energy savings) and the 15.9 with energy savings off and I would say that it was about 25% fast on PES 2008 and 15-20% fast from 15.9 with default energy savings vs. 15.9 energy savings off

These drivers + GM965 are getting better

1. These are DX10 drivers. These are the MINIMUM required driver for the GM45/G45 chipsets. You may just want to take a look at that German site. They ran Crysis and Call of Juarez(albeit at low settings): *www.computerbase.de/news/treiber/g...l/intel_erster_directx-10-treiber_gma-grafik/. Also look here: *forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?p=1149309

2. Shader Model 3.0 has been supported since the 15.6 Vista and 14.31 XP drivers.

 

[WH87]

1. These are DX10 drivers. These are the MINIMUM required driver for the GM45/G45 chipsets. You may just want to take a look at that German site. They ran Crysis and Call of Juarez(albeit at low settings): *www.computerbase.de/news/treiber/g...l/intel_erster_directx-10-treiber_gma-grafik/. Also look here: *forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?p=1149309

2. Shader Model 3.0 has been supported since the 15.6 Vista and 14.31 XP drivers.

thats the same link given above for the same beta version. i did download and install, and when trying to run lost dx 10 demo, it gives me an error about night finding d2dx19_33.dll

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ahh i found out why... it seems that the directx10 installing with vista has a few files missing that are needed by some games. these files are supposingly installable from the game's cd, but since the demo is no cd, it didnt have dx to install, so i installed latest dx from ms's page, and now lost works, although it was more or less unplayable(3-4 fps) (maybe cuz resolution doesnt go below 1200x in the demo.)

 

[yesh1683]

Good News now
Just Now Checked RAINBOW SIX VEGAS 2
Played fine but only at low @ 640
With weired problems explained below

In XP

with OLD drivers the game has lots of graphical errors,, with latest drivers posted on 1st page (though itz not latest by driver version, itz an Production version and WHQL drivers) there was no error in graphics, it played well at around 14 FPS at 640 at low
But very weired, the game runs smooth while we walk and we shoot but if enemies gun is shot at us the game begins to lag a lot at times it stopped responding and restarted. (the reason may b, if we receive the enemy 's bullets the game becomes motion blur, even though i disabled motion blur)

In VISTA

with latest drivers posted on 1st page and also with beta drivers both have same effect

In vista the game plays well at 640 at low at around 10 FPS
But very minor graphics error still very much playable

So itz better to play in vista
But if any body got the game plz check once again in XP it might b problem with my XP I have format that as i installed it way back wen i bought my PC

These are the screen shots i took while playing in VISTA



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which is better?
beta or the stable version drivers?

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BIOS Update for dg965WH motherboard

BIOS Update 1729 [MQ96510J.86A](1165KB)

I think beta drivers are better because u get lot of new features in graphics property
U can change the video settings and all with beta drivers

Quick question Yesh.My friend will be opting for a Compaq laptop which has an X3100 onboard based on Intel 965 chipset.Will the drivers that you have updated out here be compatible with it? What performance can we except with this mobile version of X3100?

It is compatible with x3100
Both might perform same
But not sure as i dont have any laptop

 

[WH87]

yesh, shouldnt u change the status of the lost 10dx demo ? or does it still not work for you ? (all i needed to do is update directx after updating to the beta drivers) and although 2-4 fps aint playable, it still is better than not running at all.

 

[mmick]

Shader Model 3.0 has been supported since the 15.6 Vista and 14.31 XP drivers.

Sure, but nevertheless it didn´t work well (at least on my PC with Vista)

 

[DavidC1]

Sure, but nevertheless it didn´t work well (at least on my PC with Vista)

Doesn't mean it didn't have support. I didn't have problems with my XP based system, and some games in Vista didn't either. Games that require SM3.0 like Bioshock ran with those drivers(for the first time ever!).

Quick question Yesh.My friend will be opting for a Compaq laptop which has an X3100 onboard based on Intel 965 chipset.Will the drivers that you have updated out here be compatible with it? What performance can we except with this mobile version of X3100?

You are a bit confused here. The X3100 is the mobile version and X3000/X3500 is the desktop version. Here are the key differences:
X3000/X3500=667MHz core, up to DDR2-800 dual channel
X3100=400/533MHz core depending on version(GL960=400MHz, GM965=500MHz), and up to DDR2-667 dual channel

The desktop X3000(G965) is 30-40% faster than the mobile GM965 and 50-60% faster than the GL960.

What I strongly suggest is tell your friend to wait for next gen Centrino code-name Montevina. It'll come summer this year(June/July) and the GM45/GM47 will feature GMA X4500. This will be 1.7-2.0x faster than GM965 depending on version.

 

[Ethan_Hunt]

Thanks for your reply David.BTW I do know that X3100 is the video controller for mobile version if Intel 965 chipsets & X3000 is the desktop version.If you failed to notice I own a DG965RY myself.

Anyway my friend is not too much into gaming but he games ocassionally with standard games like FIFA 2008 & so on which I don't think require heavy shader crunching power.Apart from that it would just be for casual use.Thanks again for your reply.

 

[yesh1683]

Today tested The CLUB demo

The game runs very smooth infact the smoothest gameplay on G965

I played at 800x600 medium to High settings (the settings is shown in screenshots)
It runs at 30 FPS without any lag

Here are some screen shots



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[DavidC1]

Anyway my friend is not too much into gaming but he games ocassionally with standard games like FIFA 2008 & so on which I don't think require heavy shader crunching power.Apart from that it would just be for casual use.Thanks again for your reply.

This is the problem with the X3100. The architecture is optimized for heavy shader environments. Civ 4 demo on default settings gets 15-20 fps in the beginning for my desktop X3000. Remember this is their first generation of the new architecture.

Because the notebook version has less bandwidth and core clock, some old games ran pretty slow. I've heard NFSU1 got 20 fps on the lowest settings. Perhaps he was using the GL960, but even on the GM965 it'll increase to maybe 30 fps or so.

It'll be wise to wait if he can.

 

[Ethan_Hunt]

^Crap! If a game like FIFA delivers poor performance on it then god help that chipset.He can't wait much because this has to be an instant purchase.The laptop would mainly be used by his sister who is into basic stuff & he would use it ocassionally for medium gaming.

@Yesh: The Club screenies really looks good.Dam I really underestimated our X3000 onboard.