Gibbon is still an Ape

[infra_red_dude]

I think its time to lock this thread. Nothing productive. Same old OS war!

PS: Sincere request to everyone. Plz do not create "Review threads" as a cover for OS (or anything else) wars. The biased, negative review will only scare away potential user who'd want to try out new things with an open mind. If war is the ultimate intention then do not mask the thread as a "review". Instead go ahead create a "war" thread with no ambiguity.

 

[Cyrus_the_virus]

My K750i works fine in vista as a removable drive fine with no drivers. I don't need any SE software for it to work. R U sure u were not following the default way in Vista?

Were you able to get it to work as a modem as soon as you plugged it in? It did for me in ubuntu, within 5 secs of plugging in the phone, voila, GPRS on PC! beat that, I'm not talking about the phone being used as removable drives!

 

[superczar]

LOL..iMav, GX, you guys never give up...do you?

As expected, you'll skip pertinent points & questions that other people raise and will hide behind silly non-issues like cant play mp3 outta the box

Can't you try open up your closed minds a bit and see what non Windows world is all about....

Meanwhile, here is something to chew upon:

Over the weekend, I picked a new HDD and then decided to build a xubuntu based standalone machine with old components lying in my storeroom

- it runs headless (no monitor, no keyboard, no mouse, just a power cable and ethernet cable)
- yet works as a low power 24X7 downloader (torrents), ftp server and a file server
- Remote controlled via a web admin interface or SSH and even VNC if needed

Now thats just one small example of the power of ubuntu....there are countless other ways to use the power of *nix

But for that to happen, you need to come out of your closed shells ...
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Having said that, I have always maintained that using *nix systems requires some degree of intelligence,

A) Either the intelligence to use it the way you want

OR

B) The intelligence to realize that you are a basic user who needs access to mail/browser/office apps and just want the system to do what is needed

Any *nix system is not meant for morons who think they are power users (lulled into the belief because of having used windows for years and thinking that they are power users just because they can e.g. change the swap file size on their machines or do a device driver installation)

And thereby expect power settings in *nix to behace similarly

 

[ray|raven]

Dude,Thats exactly what these windows fanboys need to get into their heads.

I made my sis,who is doing her degree in biology switch to using linux and she's feeling no darn difference.
Whenever she needs smthin to be done,i jus show her once and she can do it on herself.
When new versions come out,i used put the links to download and let her do the installation.(while i roamed out )
And now since am in b'lore and she wanted to install linux on my dad's lappy,
i talked her over it on the phone and voila it was over in 15mins.

And yet,these guys here keep makin new and new excuses to make threads to complain on linux.
You guys say,vista n aero are so advanced,
go check urselves in the tech news section,
even with sp1,its slower than the ~6 year old xp.

@superczar,
Since ur using old components,
xubuntu will be a bit laggy,
try something based on slackware or slackware itself.
They rok on older systems.

Regards,
ray

 

[iMav]

Dude,Thats exactly what these windows fanboys need to get into their heads.

I made my sis,who is doing her degree in biology switch to using linux and she's feeling no darn difference.
Whenever she needs smthin to be done,i jus show her once and she can do it on herself.
When new versions come out,i used put the links to download and let her do the installation.(while i roamed out )
And now since am in b'lore and she wanted to install linux on my dad's lappy,
i talked her over it on the phone and voila it was over in 15mins.

sorry dude i got better things to worry about than setting up and downloading packages and libraries; i prefer a vlite/nlite installation my regards and wishes to ur sis

@superczar,
Since ur using old components,
xubuntu will be a bit laggy,
try something based on slackware or slackware itself.
They rok on older systems.

Regards,
ray

if ur trying slacware ud try slax its a sleeker & simpler version of slacware

 

[superczar]

@superczar,
Since ur using old components,
xubuntu will be a bit laggy,
try something based on slackware or slackware itself.
They rok on older systems.

Regards,
ray

Nopes, I disabled XFCE services (the gnome equiv in xubuntu) and the system is as snappy as it could be
I don't think I'll have a need to fire up the GUI on a torrent downloader/file server ever, though even if i needed to, i can always fire up XFCE via VNC from any other system on my network

sorry dude i got better things to worry about than setting up and downloading packages and libraries; i prefer a vlite/nlite installation my regards and wishes to ur sis

and why would downloading packages/libraries be any difficult than nliting an XP install?


Which brings me to a question...How many windows lovers use valid genuine windows ?

For the record, I don't hate windows, I am indifferent to it...and I use genuine windows for both the windoze installations on my home...the only copyright violation on my windows machines is via using one valid Office license on both windoze systems...

 

[iMav]

and why would downloading packages/libraries be any difficult than nliting an XP install?

abey yaar ... for bloody obex i need to dwnld packages yaar yeh toh hadd hai

 

[superczar]

but you do have a net connection (after all you wouldn't be posting here otherwise )

Anyway dissing an OS because you need a net connection to use it well isn't really a valid -ve anymore as BB connections are available for cheap in nearly every part of the country even in India

Even Vista needs a net connection for activation....

And to conclude, the point of my previous post was that if downloading packages and libraries takes effort, so does nliting it preinstall so this is not a valid point:

sorry dude i got better things to worry about than setting up and downloading packages and libraries; i prefer a vlite/nlite installation my regards and wishes to ur sis

 

[praka123]

I now understand there are people who knows something about Linux and other *NIXens.and most techies are open to Linux esp Ubuntu.these morons(i dont want name calling again) here in the forum wants to stop the aspirants too.well,for that matter am not that cheap to start a Vista sucks thread(I have used Vista in friend's laptop) and dont want to tell that Vista sucks big time.
Our dear two M$ fanboys cannot come out of their shell.poor fella's,they are sold to Windows.I am sure that both of them receive support from M$ india.they may be members of msdn,technet,may be online FUD makers for Linux usage.

Mind it,India have to show the world the Open Source Way to Lead.dont wait US or EU to do that.India and its neighbours,China all should move to GNU/Linux as OS and embrace FOSS
Well,already in Kerala,TN Linux is taught.And the pirated windows installing mechanics are installing opensuse and Ubuntu wowowowow!what a change.i want to see India moves completely to OSS be it BSD or Linux.
FOSS FTW!fsck those win fanboys!fsck M$ monopoly

 

[preshit.net]

Mind it,India have to show the world the Open Source Way to Lead.dont wait US or EU to do that.India and its neighbours,China all should move to GNU/Linux as OS and embrace FOSS
Well,already in Kerala,TN Linux is taught.And the pirated windows installing mechanics are installing opensuse and Ubuntu wowowowow!what a change.i want to see India moves completely to OSS be it BSD or Linux.
FOSS FTW!fsck those win fanboys!fsck M$ monopoly

Up until last year, my college used to teach us UNIX practicals via telnet on a server running Redhat 9.

This year, I showed them Ubuntu and now we have a lab full of Ubuntu installations dual booting with XP ( obviously for VB6.0 ).
We are assigned 1 PC each and we are free to customize Ubuntu according to our likings.
Not only that... the HOD installed ubuntu on his laptop too

 

[iMav]

And to conclude, the point of my previous post was that if downloading packages and libraries takes effort, so does nliting it preinstall so this is not a valid point

oh cmon man something like this from u .... nliting a xp and downloading so freakin many packages ... yaar tu aisi baat matt kar as far as net is concerned again its bloody too much of dwnlding man .... so many packages for everything dwnld a package dwnld package library not found dwnld a library salla gana sunn ne k liye bhi pehle net pe jana padhta hai ... to send a file to the fone u need to go to the net .... not every1 like u can buy gadgets and have net conx im fortunate to have 1 but the current state of the linux OS cant be used as a replacement for windows

and i give a rats a$$ if u call me a fanboy bloody hell i got os x; ubuntu; slax; xp & vista on 1 machine and u say im a fanboy of a particular OS just coz i have used most of what is thr and still feel and prove and find reasons why windows is better than the alternatives im a fanboy .... rather than this u shud accept the facts and being respected and old OSS users shud go to the developers and give our negatives as suggestions to make the os better

btw im still awaiting a reply wrt: *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=670567&postcount=97

 

[praka123]

^we dont want Linux to be Like Windows keep the suggestions with u or send it to microshaft BTW,are ur job in M$ redmond assured? work for their fanboys dept

 

[Faun]

Microsoft was sued for bundling there own Windows Optimised version of JAVA Virtual machine, so it cannot be given.

Codec packs are not made by MS. Again, they will be sued if they bundle. It's not OSS that anyone can give anyone else's product without asking or permission. This is a world where business means money. There is already a thread explaining why & what cannot be given in Windows.

OpenAL is a driver which comes with the sound card driver. Vista already has OpenAL support inbuilt.

cant u see the same case with Linux, not everything can be bundled without getting sued.

MS could hav provided MySql and some opensource softwares bundled with VISTA and XP but hell it wont let then earn their bucks that way.

Not even ogg/xvid support, i guess they are OS and no one will sue'em.

Remember the issue with Firefox in VISTA.

 

[The_Devil_Himself]

btw im still awaiting a reply wrt: *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/show...7&postcount=97

windows is used for games: accepted by prakash jeshtha)

agreed partially.Most gamemaker receive big $$$ from M$ and nVidia(crysis\crytek and 8800's) to make games keeping in mind their interests.Most games using opengl can easily be ported to linux and os x but still they use DX(I don't know much about these api's but this is what the story is).Wine and cedega can play a lotsa good games and the situaton can be a lot better if the gamesmaker and hardwaremakers work towards it which won't happen till linux has a good share in OS market(os x is hopeless).BTW do you know you will get more frame rates in doom3 in linux with the same set up as compared to windows(I haven't tried but a a very respected friend has confirmed).

Windows is used for work: autocad; ps; corel; office 2k7 blah blah - accpeted by prakash jeshtha

Again most of these too can be emulated(?) by wine.
Dude autocad/corel etc is for hardcore professionals not for you and not for me either.maybe for .001% of total computer users who knows?.
And BTW do you have any Idea how much these costs?I mean any idea.A one year license of AutoCad costs approx.30k iirc.

For amateurs like you and me even blender/gimp is an overkill!!.And far better than purating softys which are nearly useless for you.

windows is used for entertainment: has its own media center

Windows has its own media center?Are you sure?My XP install doesn't have any.only mce and vista has it.

Ok now the main part,linux don't have media centre?Ever heard of MythTv/geebox?Tell me one thing your MCE does and these can't do.Watch dvds,listen to cd's,mp3's,watch TV,record it.....what else.

This is BS you're typing man.

 

[iMav]

This is BS you're typing man.

BS a$$ i get the bloody thing already with the OS and trust me that .001% figure of urs is what is BS i know xp doesnt have it and hey 3 things that a pc needs to do and all three windows does perfectly well what else do u need in ur pc to do wtf is so bad abt windows that it can do all those works with least headache for u install wine and iv used wine & cross over so i know them

and for all u great linux users:

*www.techbirbal.com/viewtopic.php?f=85&t=1634

 

[The_Devil_Himself]

I give up man! you're impossible.I am trying to be rational here I accepted that most games won't run on linux cos they are not made for it.

blah... i get the bloody thing already with the OS

I don't think they ship crysis/COD4 et al,corel,autocad,photoshop et al with windows.do they?again BS.

If they do ship them to you them I would like to buy a copy through you(j\k) .

 

[iMav]

I give up man! you're impossible.I am trying to be rational here I accepted that most games won't run on linux cos they are not made for it.



I don't think they ship crysis/COD4 et al,corel,autocad,photoshop et al with windows.do they?again BS.

If they do ship them to you them I would like to buy a copy through you(j\k) .

i was talking abt media center and a proper music player that plays most audio formats without dwnlding packages and libraries and trust me wine is as sad it can get and

@devil: you're impossible.I am trying to be rational here

 

[Cyrus_the_virus]

i was talking abt media center and a proper music player that plays most audio formats without dwnlding packages and libraries and trust me wine is as sad it can get

Proper music player? Wait till MS gets sued by other countries for including Windows Media Player with Windows Installation, then you'll go around searching to download players you dumb...

 

[The_Devil_Himself]

thats stupid iMav utter stupidity cos you know barring ubuntu(i.e. the cd edition,dvd has it all) and a few others ship with most(even xvid) codecs to play.hehe pwned?

 

[iMav]

Proper music player? Wait till MS gets sued by other countries for including Windows Media Player with Windows Installation, then you'll go around searching to download players you dumb...

pretty much as stupid as google's lawsuit on ms for making live search as the default search in ie 7 .... so basically u also accept to the fact taht MS cant beaten without making absolutely stupid laws that forbid a company to add its own products to its own products great

@devil im geting a 3.4gig slacware version next week a fool is dwnlding it we'll see what a dvd has to offer