Camera talk...

The Incinerator

Human Spambot
Finally got the Gimbal head and the Silk legs :-D

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gagan_kumar

Wise Old Owl
Finally got the Gimbal head and the Silk legs :-D

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you seem to be really a professional photographer..........(i know i am saying the obvious)
 

pranav0091

I am not an Owl
Awesome setup, but is it really needed ? I mean what differentiates these really expensive ones from the lesser priced ones ? I dont even see this current setup being useful for all the wrong angles that you need for macros. As for telephotos and others, the greatest need is a stable platform which most tripods provide.
Quick release latches are also standard. Weight bearing may be an issue, but a lot of cheaper options available. In any case I dont see hooks for weight in this model.

I suppose these cost well over 15k ? I am curious as to what makes these a good buy ?
 

sujoyp

Grand Master
[MENTION=221001]Pranav[/MENTION] he wants a one time expenditure solution ...after getting this gimball head he wont have to spend even if he gets a 4 lakh lens ...this setup will be enough
 

izzikio_rage

Technomancer
You can change angles very fast, almost anything that does not require a height change can be done instantly.

Good for video too, plus the ability to make the fine adjustments needed when shooting with telephoto lenses, yet maintain the blur free image due to the tripod
 

The Incinerator

Human Spambot
@ Pranav ,everything has been mentioned by other far more seasoned photographers here. Yes I wanted a one time investment that would take care off everything. This set up all together is less than Rs 30,000 along with Shipping, Customs and Taxes etc etc. Now this set up can rival set up costing thrice as much ,,,eg Gitzo Carbon fiber legs and Arca Swiss Gimball Heads. But then ofcourse the Rs 60K Gitzos are way lighter and tougher and Arca Swiss far more nimble. But then for a guy like me , I cant justify the price difference for the good s they will offer since I cant afford, but then for people who can afford, having used one (borrowed) , I would say why not!!!
 

pranav0091

I am not an Owl
@ Pranav ,everything has been mentioned by other far more seasoned photographers here. Yes I wanted a one time investment that would take care off everything. This set up all together is less than Rs 30,000 along with Shipping, Customs and Taxes etc etc. Now this set up can rival set up costing thrice as much ,,,eg Gitzo Carbon fiber legs and Arca Swiss Gimball Heads. But then ofcourse the Rs 60K Gitzos are way lighter and tougher and Arca Swiss far more nimble. But then for a guy like me , I cant justify the price difference for the good s they will offer since I cant afford, but then for people who can afford, having used one (borrowed) , I would say why not!!!

Ha, you make me feel bad man :D

Ofcourse not questioning your choice, rather trying to see why/how it'd help. Guess, I still dont need anything close to this setup. If there are two things I am looking at the moment, thats macro lens and a long range lens (300mm or more). I dropped/postponed the plans to purchase the Sigma 18-250 in favour of just saving cash atm.

That being said, congratualtions. How much does that lens you are after cost (Tamron telephotowala) ?
Need to check some reviews.
 

The Incinerator

Human Spambot
Tamron is around Rs 80K and have to pre order ,Tamron India tells its sold out worldwide!!! I can get the 400mm F5.6L in grey for less than Rs 80K. Canon India warranty comes for Rs 92K!. Im really crossed atm between quality = L vs Versatility = Tamron !
 

pranav0091

I am not an Owl
Tamron is around Rs 80K and have to pre order ,Tamron India tells its sold out worldwide!!! I can get the 400mm F5.6L in grey for less than Rs 80K. Canon India warranty comes for Rs 92K!. Im really crossed atm between quality = L vs Versatility = Tamron !

*camahoy.com/2014/01/13/finally-tamron-150-600-vs-canon-400-f5-6l/

One off image, but still.

Only question now left - Focus speed/accuracy better for the L apparently (500L though)
*www.slrlounge.com/new-tamron-150-600mm-wildlife-photographers-dream-lens

Weatherproofing is good to have on the L but not without an equivalent body ofcourse.

Tamron is the better all-round lens I'd guess, in this comparison.
 

sujoyp

Grand Master
comparing a prime with a third party zoom will be foolishness that too with an L lens :D

I am not saying Tamron is bad but when I see results of Prime lenses like Nikon 300f4 I feel that Zoom is just a compromise and these consumer zooms can not produce what these low end Primes can...
I almost cry everytime I go for shoot ....My Sigma zoom needs f8 for sharp shots...f8 pulls down shutter speed considerably ...SS fells to 1/125 almost ...then to increase SS to 1/320+ I have to increase the ISO to 1600 and ultimately pic become lot grainy :( ....Nikon 300f4+TC at f5.6 is much much better
 

pranav0091

I am not an Owl
^ For once the Tamron is in [striking distance of/better/comparable] to the 400L thats Incinerator's other option. And the fact that its a zoom is only a bonus when you consider it matching the L lens in IQ.

I am not sure how bad the focus problem is (the second link I gave above) but its surely not IQ that the Tamron here has to worry about, thats including the L lenses within that price range I guess.
 

sujoyp

Grand Master
whatever you say pranav but what you see from Tamron 150-600 sample pics are from professionals...and I can show you better then those with prime by first time users :)

Its fine if you guys dont want to learn from my experience...sometimes its good to learn from your own mistakes :)
 

The Incinerator

Human Spambot
But the Tamron has striking Contrast,thats making the image look so damn good. And yes F8 does pull down the shutter speed and only way out is increasing the ISO and above 3200 it brings in noise. To get around the noise issue have to get a better body,so both of Pranav and Sujoy again confused me to death and for good! :-DThank you guys. :twisted: Im really waiting what revolution does the 7DMK2 brings to the table and then at what price. Rumors are ,the sensor is gonna be incredible. But even if it is after the lens I have to waith agood 1 year atleast to get that body.
 

sujoyp

Grand Master
Inci it will be good to use this type of lenses with full frame coz it have too good ISO ... Getting a Canon 5DMKII + tammy 150-600 will be a much better idea

and a 600mm is just nothing when shooting small birds size of sparrow ....rather need more sharpness and contrast to crop the pic smaller and retain the quality
 

pranav0091

I am not an Owl
Inci it will be good to use this type of lenses with full frame coz it have too good ISO ... Getting a Canon 5DMKII + tammy 150-600 will be a much better idea

and a 600mm is just nothing when shooting small birds size of sparrow ....rather need more sharpness and contrast to crop the pic smaller and retain the quality

Thats the point precisely. The Tamron here has the 400L beaten in terms of contrast and loses the sharpness contest about half of the times apparently :>

So if you take 10 bird pics you'll have 10 good keepers from the 400L but like 5 from the Tamron, but those 5 will be better than any of the 10 from the earlier set. First world problems indeed :D
 

The Incinerator

Human Spambot
Ill pik up the Lens now ,but a full frame will take some time,atleast a year.I tried a 5DMK3 but its so damn heavy and ofcourse expensive,maybe a pre owned or a 6D next year. Bless me.
 
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