Businesses Consider Skipping Vista

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sourav123

Thinking Different
answer in one sentence:

look at what I had to speak about motocross madness which I bought for ~Rs. 200/-. All this happened. Imagine what might happen for windows vi$ta. Its almost guarenteed that I am never buying another windows software in my life.

Great decision. :)
 

gxsaurav

You gave been GXified
u guys r still fighting? damn, how much time do spend away from the computer table ?

gautam, when motocross madness was developed, it was developed for old version of windows of that time as stated in EULA. MS is not bound to support it in favor of better products. It took U 5 pages to say what we already know? tomorrow if MS offers U a job as developer with a high paid salary, u will obviously take it ditching Linux. won't U?

hey, lets all sue Nokia for not developing software for my old Nokia 3315

Just work in the industry once, U will know it's all about the money, even Linux componies work for money. Y does Ubuntu charges money for server support then?
 
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sourav123

Thinking Different
u guys r still fighting? damn, how much time do spend away from the computer table ?

gautam, when motocross madness was developed, it was developed for old version of windows of that time as stated in EULA. MS is not bound to support it in favor of better products. It took U 5 pages to say what we already know? tomorrow if MS offers U a job as developer with a high paid salary, u will obviously take it ditching Linux. won't U?

hey, lets all sue Nokia for not developing software for my old Nokia 3315

Just work in the industry once, U will know it's all about the money, even Linux componies work for money. Y does Ubuntu charges money for server support then?

Man, nobody is listening to you. And it is you who is always coming back and bumping the thread. You may say whatever you want, whether I or some other thousands of users use Linux or not is their *personal* decision.
 
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FilledVoid

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tomorrow if MS offers U a job as developer with a high paid salary, u will obviously take it ditching Linux. won't U?
For some people earning top dollar is the least of their concerns. Stop ASSUMING that you know what Linux folks would do. Cause you don't.

Y does Ubuntu charges money for server support then?
AFAIK They charge for support. Not the Operating system.


isn't prakash creating FUD about vista with DRM then?
I believe this is a good article about DRM.
*www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/02/drm_in_windows_1.html
 

praka123

left this forum longback
no @biju: see this hell load of results :
*www.google.co.in/search?sourceid=Mozilla-search&q=Vista+DRM+flaw
who create what FUD?I just made everyone aware that Vista is a forced hand of Micro$oft and RIAA,Hollywood big B's on privacy of users.not to say this when hacked(already,I think) can be a big security issue.because this DRM in vista is actually rootkit!
 
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FilledVoid

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no @biju: see this hell load of results :
*www.google.co.in/search?sourc...Vista+DRM+flaw
who create what FUD?I just made everyone aware that Vista is a forced hand of Micro$oft and RIAA,Hollywood big B's on privacy of users.not to say this when hacked(already,I think) can be a big security issue.because this DRM in vista is actually rootkit!

Lol I never meant you created FUD I was just showing a good article that showed something about DRM :D .
 

sourav123

Thinking Different
no @biju: see this hell load of results :
*www.google.co.in/search?sourceid=Mozilla-search&q=Vista+DRM+flaw
who create what FUD?I just made everyone aware that Vista is a forced hand of Micro$oft and RIAA,Hollywood big B's on privacy of users.not to say this when hacked(already,I think) can be a big security issue.because this DRM in vista is actually rootkit!

Cool man. Everybody (except a few dumbheaded people) knows Vista is crap. We probably wont be able to change those few people. But lets keep helping the others. :)
 

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
no @biju: see this hell load of results :
*www.google.co.in/search?sourceid=Mozilla-search&q=Vista+DRM+flaw
who create what FUD?I just made everyone aware that Vista is a forced hand of Micro$oft and RIAA,Hollywood big B's on privacy of users.not to say this when hacked(already,I think) can be a big security issue.because this DRM in vista is actually rootkit!
We all know what happened to you when we discussed DRM ;)
 

praka123

left this forum longback
Vista sucks!Microsoft sucks!Monopoly sucks!M$ boys sucks!

^what happened? :lol: you M$ ppl got pwned?wasnt that? :D
 

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
^what happened? you M$ ppl got pwned?wasnt that?

what happened ?/
Yes we MS people got so pwned that FOSS users started saying that they will rather use pirated content than DRMed content. In other words, they don't wish to pay back for the hard work of artists ;)

Dude praka for the nth time man, when you know nothing about DRM why are talking about it in every thread man, get your facts right first and then start abusing members & companies about something.
 

praka123

left this forum longback
what you said is FUD.
I was asked by some elitist sickhead man -if you prefer DRM ?I said NO.nothing more than that :) so they want to interpret that I dont want to pay for softwares,movies and all.
well,you can come and see what I have bought.
I got many affordable moser-baer dvds. :D
regarding this,@imav: arent you using torrents?rapidshare(I dont!)? OMG! he is the number one hypocrat after @charan.
sorry for namecalling though. :|

I know,you are so desparate to own :lol:

I dont wish to see those egostic developers,artists who want to have royalties running for over 100 years for something which rightly deserves to the community.

their hardwork is well paid. :rolleyes:

well,what you said?I dont know that "DRM is needed to have to save humans in earth? "
I dont see!
DRM -
*defectivebydesign.org
Digital Restrictions Management and Treacherous Computing

DRM is often written as "Digital Rights Management", but this is misleading, since it refers to systems that are designed to take away and limit your rights. So, we suggest you use the term "Digital Restrictions Management" instead. We also suggest "Treacherous Computing" as a replacement for the misleading "Trusted Computing".

  • DefectiveByDesign.org, FSF campaign to eliminate DRM
  • Opposing Digital Rights Mismanagement, an interview of Richard Stallman by BusinessWeek Online about DRM
  • Boycott Blu-Ray
  • Reaction to the DRM clause in GPLv3, blog entry by David "novalis" Turner
  • Free software without the freedom?, blog entry by John Sullivan about DRM
  • A letter to the Boston Public Library from Richard Stallman condemning their use of DRM for public library audio books. You can help by sending your own letter to gref at bpl dot org, and by finding out if something similar is going on at your own local library. Please let us know if there is, and CC us on any letters you send at <campaigns@fsf.org>.

*www.fsf.org/campaigns/drm.html

oh!we dont know that DRM in Vi$ta can spy any thing :rolleyes:
stop this fud.M$ chamchas.:x
 

axxo

99.9% Idle
Yes we MS people got so pwned that FOSS users started saying that they rather use pirated content than DRMed content. In other words, they don't wish to pay back for the hard work of artists ;)
Post reported. Discussing 3.14rated and related stuff :D
 
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FilledVoid

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I appreciate all the efforts Open Source folks take to convert others to their realm and help others to make the change with excellent help and advice. I personally have had a few people convert over here and it makes me happy, not to mention I probably would have never started using Linux if it had not been to Prakash and other folks who help (especially to folks on IRC ). But shouldn't there be a line where people stay away from the topic :D. If I feel comfortable using Linux , then let me use it , Likewise if I feel comfortable using Vista let me use it. Each time a post comes up on Linux / Windows it blows up into something thats way way (read as light years) away from the topic :( . For example how does anything in this thread relate to why businesses are skipping Vista .

Examples
Cost / benefit comparisons?
Roadmap set for Windows 7 , why invest on a product which is going to die soon anyway?

These are just topics worth discussing about. Please note I'm not saying the above points are valid. I'm just throwing in something which might add a bit flavor to the thread . If anyone feels like I offended them in anyway with the above post let me know and I will happily edit it :).
 

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
Businesses might be considering skipping Vista for a lot of reasons, I personally feel that companies might not be having the resources or will to spend on resources, considering the heat global market is facing for the past year courtesy the oil crisis, Indian's consuming too much food (before someone jumps up and says I did not expect a thinkdigit member to say this, this was said by George Bush when talking about the food crisis & price rise) etc.

Secondly, Vista might not in their area of work be providing them any benefit over XP. Most offices make extensive use of Microsoft Office (please FOSS stop crapping thread, don't start OOo vs MS Office now) Office 2007 has had rave reviews and companies have upgraded to Office 2007 because it works on XP, old hardware & provides a lot productive features over Office 2003.

The bad PR Vista has suffered is another reason for companies avoiding it. Add to that news of Win 7 coming out steadily with leaked screen shots etc. which as of now makes 7 look like a lot like Vista, most probally it will with a some changes, so companies don't feel the need to do switch to Vista as of now.

Lastly I feel that companies weren't ready for Vista, bad customer interaction to be blamed, Vista missed the corporate computer hardware change cycle, which defitnitely won't be the case with 7.
 

gxsaurav

You gave been GXified
Vista gave lots of new technologies & features for us designers & developers to tap. it is actually a nice OS if U know how to use it. MS just needs to polish the vista backend, slim the code & move to a completely .net based architecture for software. no need to develop, just optimize
 
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