Businesses Consider Skipping Vista

[Pat]

such as ....?

PS: Sourav pointed out money

Such as this

*nongeeksight.blogspot.com/2006/09/5-ways-to-contribute-to-open-source.html

 

[iMav]

dude, Sourav was not referring to contribution to FOSS but towards the real India, bhooka India, nanga India.

Don't you guys read the comments made by others? Are you guys waiting in anticipation for me & gx to post something and jump on the anti-MS bandwagon by quoting us?

 

[Krazy_About_Technology]

dude, Sourav was not referring to contribution to FOSS but towards the real India, bhooka India, nanga India.

Offtopic: Lol iMav, you are one of a kind man. Kabhi kabhi tumhari post padhke hanse bina raha nahin jata (dont take it in the wrong sense buddy, it is a compliment ).

 

[Pat]

dude, Sourav was not referring to contribution to FOSS but towards the real India, bhooka India, nanga India.

Don't you guys read the comments made by others? Are you guys waiting in anticipation for me & gx to post something and jump on the anti-MS bandwagon by quoting us?

Well if you read posts carefully, you would have known that both of us posted at almost the same time and before your post above mine it looks like you were asking "Such as.." to FilledVoids comments of contributing to Open Source!!

 

[axxo]

I can't type much as I m using Opera mini but those blind users who say MS doesn't support custom windows installation & they need to use VLite should take a look at official Microsoft W.A.I.K.

WAIK is no where near to vlite..WAIK itself is a big bloat around a gb while vlite is just an mb. I suppose we cant remove any component from vista using W.A.I.K. Only thing it does is automated installation and deployment with some addon components(drivers mostly). It can be useful for manufacturers like dell and others but not for end users. User reviews also suggests the same.

 

[techtronic]

AFAIK Windows AIK is a pain in the a$$.Though I totally don't like Image Based OS Deployment, often in enterprises which have more than 1000 to 2000 Windows XP Desktops, Norton Ghost or Acronis True Image is used to clone 1 Workstation and then SysPrep is run in order to eliminate System Specific Components and then deployed to other workstations.

In case of Linux example Red Hat, installation can be done by copying the RPMs to a Web Server and then by booting the required machine using a small Boot CD or PXE Boot and the whole installation can be carried out without the need for OS CD.

Is this kind of installation possible in Windows ?
I know for sure that Unattended Setup and Remote Installation Services including Enterprise Desktop Deployment and Windows Deployment Services can be used to deploy OS unattended but most of them take hell a lot of time for the initial prep of Images.

 

[praka123]

@mr.Pillay:now I think you can understand the reality if gone through this discussion.generally ppl with highend PC can only run Vi$ta although with gr8 difficulty.not to say this OS flopped.
Vista is a total bloat with DRM.now Windows 7 is coming in a year or so.
I am confident that the monopoly of redmond monarch is slowly being eliminating -thx to Linux and other operating systems.
Think from both sides.I think you seems to be thinking like a lawyer father trying to protect a criminal kid(M$FT).stop and think sane.
DEMOCRACY RULES,FOSS RULES!

 

[iMav]

*gigasmilies.googlepages.com/37.gif

 

[MetalheadGautham]

Lets take alook at this thread. Original thread title "Businesses Consider Skipping Vista" . then suddenly this thread goes to Motocross Madness which seems to be the main focus of discussion. Then theres a load of FUD that makes no sense or which is amazingly insane or some poster is tryign to look smart but somehow makes the person astoundlingly mornoic.

Points to note:
1. You should be flogged for buying the game in the first place
2. What kind of business sense does it make to support a product which has a near to non-exsistent client base. You don;t sick more money into dead projects. Get over it already. Use it as a coaster, reflector etc.
3. If you didnt know even Linux comes with its software restrictions. Example. Go back to the Sabayon channel and ask for support on the Sabayon Professional Edition 1.1 . The answer is plain and simple "its not supported, if you want help go and get an u[pdated version if it exsists.
4. Ever read the Microsoft EULA? Im pretty sure that in it it probably says that they do not express any warranties other than for the physical media itself. So if it doesnt run . guess what. You are out of luck.

1. I have every right to buy a product I want to buy, and the thing I paid for is not supported by the same company's OS. And you think its not a problem ?

2. This is not business sence. I not only pay for a product, I also pay for its services. So its the company's obligation to support the product which it sold. Otherwise, it is supposed to supply us with an alternative at no cost at all. I haven't got either.

3. Such things don't happen in linux; I am not prevented by the OS in anyway to NOT use an older software. Older OS fine, but newer OS does not STOP me from using an older software.

4. Don't remember it. And yes, I am perhaps out of luck. But the same thing makes me ensure that others don't get trapped like me. Imagine what will happen 12 years from now. Now you buy Microsoft Office 2008, and are assured full support for this product. But 12 years from now, it is not supported, despite you having paid for it, with reasons sited to you like "it is obsolete", etc. And from what I remember, warranty for a product is from the date of its sale. My Motocross madness is still technically under warranty, still I get no support. WTF. I didn't deviate to this topic. It was gx_saurav who asked a software to be named which was not supported by Windows Vista. And I did.


My Main Point, once again:

once you pay for a software, the sellers are expected to support it, and can break support only if they supply an alternative for free, or if the money is refunded.

 

[iMav]

once you pay for a software, the sellers are expected to support it, and can break support only if they supply an alternative for free, or if the money is refunded.

1. It is rather jingoistic if you have this yard stick only for Software and nothing else, even stuff not related to computers in the remotest of ways.

2. They might be *expected* to according to you, but are not compelled in any way to do so.

3. Oh btw with regards to Motocross Madness 2, I think Vista supports it

 

[FilledVoid]

1. I have every right to buy a product I want to buy, and the thing I paid for is not supported by the same company's OS. And you think its not a problem ?

Since you would like to go further with this let me explain further. You didnt buy the product you actually leased or set up an agreement for its usage. Like you have a right to buy the product they have every right to discontinue support for every product they dont seem worthy of supporting due to lack of customers or something silly like because it was raining it doesnt matter . And No I don't think its a problem.

2. This is not business sence. I not only pay for a product, I also pay for its services. So its the company's obligation to support the product which it sold. Otherwise, it is supposed to supply us with an alternative at no cost at all. I haven't got either.

Sure it is. Why don't you do us all a favor and call Microsoft and tell us what they told you. After all you do have a licensed key for it right? Oh by the way read the EULA of the product you have anyway. I wonder if it actually does claim to run on ALL Windows Family Operating systems. By any chance did you get this free on Digit also instead of actually buying it?

3. Such things don't happen in linux; I am not prevented by the OS in anyway to NOT use an older software. Older OS fine, but newer OS does not STOP me from using an older software.

Who is talking about Applications? Im talking about support. I recently was going to try out Sabayon which I did on a live cd anyway but when I went to the channel the answer is quite simple "We don't support it anymore". Im sure there are tonnes of more examples but first of all Id probably need that link to Openoffice .1 beta??? Where exactly did you download that from . Id like to try it out.

4. Don't remember it. And yes, I am perhaps out of luck. But the same thing makes me ensure that others don't get trapped like me. Imagine what will happen 12 years from now. Now you buy Microsoft Office 2008, and are assured full support for this product. But 12 years from now, it is not supported, despite you having paid for it, with reasons sited to you like "it is obsolete", etc. And from what I remember, warranty for a product is from the date of its sale. My Motocross madness is still technically under warranty, still I get no support. WTF. I didn't deviate to this topic. It was gx_saurav who asked a software to be named which was not supported by Windows Vista. And I did.

Dude , what I am saying is in their license agreement its probably given like this.

Supported Operating Systems: Windows 2000; Windows Server 2003; Windows Vista; Windows XP

Source : *www.microsoft.com/downloads/detail...C4-FA3A-4F9F-82B6-CBCD6108A980&displaylang=en
That is for MS Office Home and Student Edition . Look at what Operating systems are supported. Does your EULA in anyway says that it will support every other version of Windows cause I seriously doubt it. You do NOT get support for stuff which you choose to run on non supported platforms.

My Motocross madness is still technically under warranty, still I get no support.

Assuming You did buy this in 2004 you think you still have a warranty after 4 years? If I recall correct warranties are only for media. But then again if you so think you deserve it why not go the right way. Call microsoft up and tell them you deserve support. Tell them that your Motocross madness is not running on your Vista system. And that you feel that you have been cheated.

 

[sourav123]

dude, Sourav was not referring to contribution to FOSS but towards the real India, bhooka India, nanga India.

I am very sorry to say, but I never expected this kind of comment from a thinkdigit member. If you dont want to contribute to any kind of charity, I have no problems with you. But please do not write words like 'bhooka India, nanga India'. Makes me wonder, are you an Indian?

I personally have seen the poor condition of child labours across many villages in India. They are treated like slaves in most places, if not worse. I feel happy when I can make a contribution to send at least one of them to school to lead a better life. If you do not like to 'waste' your money like that, then do as you wish.

Also, my views had little to do with MS or FOSS. It was just a suggestion and my personal view. And I do respect Bill Gates for whatever he is doing with his foundation.

 

[iMav]

I am very sorry to say, but I never expected this kind of comment from a thinkdigit member. If you dont want to contribute to any kind of charity, I have no problems with you. But please do not write words like 'bhooka India, nanga India'. Makes me wonder, are you an Indian?

I personally have seen the poor condition of child labours across many villages in India. They are treated like slaves in most places, if not worse. I feel happy when I can make a contribution to send at least one of them to school to lead a better life. If you do not like to 'waste' your money like that, then do as you wish.

Also, my views had little to do with MS or FOSS. It was just a suggestion and my personal view. And I do respect Bill Gates for whatever he is doing with his foundation.

you guys seriously don't read posts in the threaeds just wait in anticipation for me & gx to post something and then write whatever rubbish you deem fit

 

[praka123]

^atleast you both dont deserve any reply(coz they dont affect u ppl ; right? ).Microsoft bill gates have a daughter.you both go redmond try your best,while we can continue a sane discussion(I will not purposeful write FOSS if you do so! ).

I can vouch for sure that ppl like above my post cannot think how badly india suffers from poverty esp north and north-east india. .comeout of your 10th floor flat and live a day in dharavi chompady.challenge?

well,Negroponde found OLPC for such poor kids.but that too was crapped by monopolist micro$haft.

 

[iMav]

^atleast you both dont deserve any reply

haan toh bhai maaf karo humme, please spare all threads we post in. Please stop following me & gx in every thread and crap it with DRM, please, please stop, we don't deserve it. We don't deserve any replies from youo. Hope you won't follow us anymore.

 

[praka123]

I am not following.it is you both crapping the threads defending M$.

 

[MetalheadGautham]

Since you would like to go further with this let me explain further. You didnt buy the product you actually leased or set up an agreement for its usage. Like you have a right to buy the product they have every right to discontinue support for every product they dont seem worthy of supporting due to lack of customers or something silly like because it was raining it doesnt matter . And No I don't think its a problem.


Sure it is. Why don't you do us all a favor and call Microsoft and tell us what they told you. After all you do have a licensed key for it right? Oh by the way read the EULA of the product you have anyway. I wonder if it actually does claim to run on ALL Windows Family Operating systems. By any chance did you get this free on Digit also instead of actually buying it?

Who is talking about Applications? Im talking about support. I recently was going to try out Sabayon which I did on a live cd anyway but when I went to the channel the answer is quite simple "We don't support it anymore". Im sure there are tonnes of more examples but first of all Id probably need that link to Openoffice .1 beta??? Where exactly did you download that from . Id like to try it out.



Dude , what I am saying is in their license agreement its probably given like this.


Source : *www.microsoft.com/downloads/detail...C4-FA3A-4F9F-82B6-CBCD6108A980&displaylang=en
That is for MS Office Home and Student Edition . Look at what Operating systems are supported. Does your EULA in anyway says that it will support every other version of Windows cause I seriously doubt it. You do NOT get support for stuff which you choose to run on non supported platforms.


Assuming You did buy this in 2004 you think you still have a warranty after 4 years? If I recall correct warranties are only for media. But then again if you so think you deserve it why not go the right way. Call microsoft up and tell them you deserve support. Tell them that your Motocross madness is not running on your Vista system. And that you feel that you have been cheated.

answer in one sentence:

look at what I had to speak about motocross madness which I bought for ~Rs. 200/-. All this happened. Imagine what might happen for windows vi$ta. Its almost guarenteed that I am never buying another windows software in my life.

 

[FilledVoid]

answer in one sentence:

look at what I had to speak about motocross madness which I bought for ~Rs. 200/-. All this happened. Imagine what might happen for windows vi$ta. Its almost guarenteed that I am never buying another windows software in my life.

That you are definitely entitled to .

 

[praka123]

Minix will kill window$

 

[MetalheadGautham]

That you are definitely entitled to .

did I forget to mention my eXperiences with M$ Encarta 2006 Deluxe DVD edition ?
I will be the happiest guy ever if I manage to sell it even at cost price.

Minix will kill window$

that old thing ? is it still alive outside textbooks ?