Businesses Consider Skipping Vista

[dheeraj_kumar]

In my opinion, Microsoft could have done a different thing. You remember these games like Diablo II, where you were asked what features to install? You could choose just the game, the game with music, and the game with music and cinematics.

Perhaps Microsoft could have just delivered to each customer the ultimate edition of Vista, at a lower cost, of course, and asked in the beginning on what to install - home basic, home premium, etc. It could be like you could install the basic edition, and whenever you need, you can upgrade to the next edition for additional features without reinstalling the whole windows once again.

Slightly more work, and slight loss of income, but it would have been more appreciated by the users, I feel. I have seen many debates like this over the net about several editions of vista, and how they are sucky in their own respect, and being neutral to the whole issue, I'm just saying this could have been a viable alternative instead of getting flamed like this.

 

[iMav]

point..did any MS boys bother to reply this??

IMO vista distribution in different flavours(baic,premium,ultimate,business) not done properly. They copied the concept from package cluster of Tux distros alright but forgot to include custom installation that would allow average user to customize the installation so as to reduce the bloated amount of soft that gets installed with stock installation.

Ok so now different versions is also allegedly copied MS is well knwown for coming out with multiple versions

 

[Faun]

If u guys r not poor then Y don't u buy original software & pay the developer what he deserves.

not all greed for money, some develop out of hobby and to break anarchy, for betterment of world.

 

[Garbage]

Ok so now different versions is also allegedly copied MS is well knwown for coming out with multiple versions

u mean Multiple versions of Windows like 95, 98, ME, XP, Vista, .... ???

 

[sourav123]

If u guys r not poor then Y don't u buy original software & pay the developer what he deserves.

Instead of paying for software, why don't you give that money to someone who needs it. I know its no use asking you, but at least I will do that.

 

[praka123]

^hypocrites they are!
you know,they are just paid may be by redmond. see?how they defend this dead horse(Vi$ta)

 

[axxo]

Ok so now different versions is also allegedly copied MS is well knwown for coming out with multiple versions

am not denying the fact that copying is wrong..infact i encourage good and nice features to be replicated properly, need 1:1 not 0.5:1...
and btw you dont deserve to call basic,utimate and so on as versions...98,me,2000 can be called so. How should i refer developer, enduser, multimedia, workstation, server variant of customized package clusters embedded in the installation media of tux...different versions??

 

[FilledVoid]

Lets take alook at this thread. Original thread title "Businesses Consider Skipping Vista" . then suddenly this thread goes to Motocross Madness which seems to be the main focus of discussion. Then theres a load of FUD that makes no sense or which is amazingly insane or some poster is tryign to look smart but somehow makes the person astoundlingly mornoic.

Points to note:
1. You should be flogged for buying the game in the first place
2. What kind of business sense does it make to support a product which has a near to non-exsistent client base. You don;t sick more money into dead projects. Get over it already. Use it as a coaster, reflector etc.
3. If you didnt know even Linux comes with its software restrictions. Example. Go back to the Sabayon channel and ask for support on the Sabayon Professional Edition 1.1 . The answer is plain and simple "its not supported, if you want help go and get an u[pdated version if it exsists.
4. Ever read the Microsoft EULA? Im pretty sure that in it it probably says that they do not express any warranties other than for the physical media itself. So if it doesnt run . guess what. You are out of luck.

For the people bashing Microsoft's Customer Support. I actually believe its one of the better ones. I've personally worked supporting Microsoft Products so before you start flaming me for it get your facts right.

Manan, how much does a 160 GB hard disk costs these days? Rs 2k I guess. Too bad these Linux users are still stuck in 40 GB HD.

You assume that the people and their systems on this forum is some kind of average of the systems all Linux users use? Hitboxx has explained this pretty well and I'm not going to explain it further but so that you know. The crappy systems that you "think" run Linux represent probably a very very small portion of the systems which run Linux so please drop the act that you know what we run .

If u guys r not poor then Y don't u buy original software & pay the developer what he deserves.

Again you somehow assume that we don't pay for software and we pirate every little thing. Just cause there are a few who probably, doesnt mean that everyone does. Like hitboxx said , if you are responding to someone then quote him. Don't use the words of someone on this forum as some kind of measurement to judge the overall population.

Instead of paying for software, why don't you give that money to someone who needs it. I know its no use asking you, but at least I will do that.

Out of curiosity are you a software developer? Cause by your post above you definitely do not deserve to be paid if you are.

 

[sourav123]

Out of curiosity are you a software developer? Cause by your post above you definitely do not deserve to be paid if you are.

No I am not a software developer and I am not against software developers making money also. What I intend to say is if you have a good quality product you can get paying little or no money (with full permission of the developer), then why not give the money that you would have paid otherwise, to a charity, or at least to those who are not as fortunate as you and me. Especially in India, we have a lot of children who cannot get even a days meal, forget going to school.

In any case, I just said my personal opinion and I respect people who like helping less fortunate ones. But unfortunately many people will spend money on expensive software which most cases serve little purpose. I may be a bit offtopic here, but just to explain my point.

 

[praka123]

well,this paid software/trialware time bomb -all this system have to change.subscription model.evolving business models using FOSS.
*follars.com

 

[Pathik]

No I am not a software developer and I am not against software developers making money also. What I intend to say is if you have a good quality product you can get paying little or no money (with full permission of the developer), then why not give the money that you would have paid otherwise, to a charity, or at least to those who are not as fortunate as you and me. Especially in India, we have a lot of children who cannot get even a days meal, forget going to school.

In any case, I just said my personal opinion and I respect people who like helping less fortunate ones. But unfortunately many people will spend money on expensive software which most cases serve little purpose. I may be a bit offtopic here, but just to explain my point.

Dude, that is totally our personal choice. The thing is that we use Linux not because we are poor but because we think it is better. And it is better to use free and better stuff than buy/pirate paid sh1t.
Btw, i am not sayin that Windows is sh1t. I use it and i like it too.

 

[FilledVoid]

No I am not a software developer and I am not against software developers making money also. What I intend to say is if you have a good quality product you can get paying little or no money (with full permission of the developer), then why not give the money that you would have paid otherwise, to a charity, or at least to those who are not as fortunate as you and me. Especially in India, we have a lot of children who cannot get even a days meal, forget going to school.

The point is, what one person does with his money or his personal choices is his business. Although I respect your view which is a rare trait one can find these days. The truth is most Linux users use Linux just because they can. Although there are quite a few products that do have alternatives. Sometimes premium software does come with features one would like to have and for that it comes with a price.

 

[iMav]

How many FOSS users personally donate the money?

Who decides what is good quality according to me? Do you decide what is good quality & am I supposed to accept it? Will you tell me what is good for my company and am I compelled in any manner to follow what you say?

Corporates too allow you to donate simply by using their services & not having to go out of your way to do something.

User Based Charity Initiatives By Microsoft

 

[Pathik]

Again. That is our choice whether to donate or not.
And let everyone choose for himself. If the companies are skipping Vista, its their choice. Respect it. End of story.

 

[gxsaurav]

I can't type much as I m using Opera mini but those blind users who say MS doesn't support custom windows installation & they need to use VLite should take a look at official Microsoft W.A.I.K.

 

[praka123]

Again. That is our choice whether to donate or not.
And let everyone choose for himself. If the companies are skipping Vista, its their choice. Respect it. End of story.

Amen.

 

[FilledVoid]

How many FOSS users personally donate the money?

Why donate money? Theres quite alot of things you can do to contribute back.

Who decides what is good quality according to me? Do you decide what is good quality & am I supposed to accept it? Will you tell me what is good for my company and am I compelled in any manner to follow what you say?

The user always decides the quality of the products he/she uses. Of course in Vista you would expect much (read alot) more since you actually spent alot of money to get that in the first place. As far as running software in your company, why listen to anyone . Run whatever you are happy with or whatever gives you the most benefits for your business environment. If I paid for support for Linux (whatever distro) I would expect the same standards that apply to anything else I have paid for .

 

[iMav]

such as ....?

PS: Sourav pointed out money

 

[FilledVoid]

PS: Sourav pointed out money

Definitely I haven't donated money for a certain software in open Source. Although I have quite an array of software that I bought in US. Most required for the job I worked but all of them are for Windows Platform namely Windows XP, Office 2000 , Visio , Lotus Notes, MS Project etc. . Nonetheless there are way so many ways to contribute to OSS. You don't have to be that uber coder to contribute back.

 

[iMav]

The user always decides the quality of the products he/she uses. Of course in Vista you would expect much (read alot) more since you actually spent alot of money to get that in the first place. As far as running software in your company, why listen to anyone . Run whatever you are happy with or whatever gives you the most benefits for your business environment. If I paid for support for Linux (whatever distro) I would expect the same standards that apply to anything else I have paid for .

Exactly and no one has the right to question the morality of some one using proprietary software and pass judgmental & generalized comments like:

But unfortunately many people will spend money on expensive software which most cases serve little purpose. I may be a bit offtopic here, but just to explain my point.

Definitely I haven't donated money for a certain software in open Source. Although I have quite an array of software that I bought in US. Most required for the job I worked but all of them are for Windows Platform namely Windows XP, Office 2000 , Visio , Lotus Notes, MS Project etc. . Nonetheless there are way so many ways to contribute to OSS. You don't have to be that uber coder to contribute back.

My comment was more of a reply to Sourav than to you.