interesting point of view ,
manipulating is a very easy art mate.. the first thing to remember is that what exactly are you looking for for ?
let's answer some of the points.
I am looking for a sensible discussion based on the topic. Let me place it in bold for you.
Businesses Consider Skipping Vista
Business : chandru : running a MNC or business ? a home user ??? is his problem is about a comapny that runs Microsoft Software and he goes reassurting things ? NO
I don't care what chandru is running. I don't care what Linux users are running . What I do expect is a normal discussion without FUD and is dealing with the topic.
we were talking about a person and not a Business COmmunity here and well if you have then also lets take something in point.. Tell me a single Company that takes Microsoft Software as in second place or says that its not productive... ?
** you talked about Business not me
Again you seem to think that I have some vendetta against Microsoft and is some how hell bent on trying to prove that "Linux pwns !!!!!11111one" . All I can say to you is
read my post carefully. I don't tell people to not use Vista , I dont advocate against Windows products and as a matter of fact I have worked for a Microsoft Solution provider for at least 5 years. Oh by the way, if you must know , you don't use a wrench instead of a knife or vice versa. In some places it makes perfect sense to run vista and in others it makes perfect sense to run a Mac or Linux desktop.
and who says something takes business away from vista ? and who says Microsoft Justifies Risks or problems ??? i am extremely in a VOID by your comment..
condition:
you are not aware of any business arrangement or you are a master that is simply being ignorant ?
I'm definitely no master at anything. I'm a humble person just trying to understands peoples logic. But please do me a favor . Next time you post please take the time to at least check if what you posted makes sense. What condition are we referring to ? Whose business arrangement? Where are you going with this?
My friend as you are very aware of the business facts i am gonna jump to something very interesting.. The firms using Microsoft Software a new platform like vista goes in deeployment phase after Microsoft's approval ( by approval i mean the deployment phase is analyzed by experts sitting at a very high quality judgement and decision team that reads and analyzed data and output to suggest new and old companies to adopt or advance to a new platform) i guess this would be a newer thing for some guys !
Personally I found this plain silly. If you plan to buy product A you don't go to the company that made product A and ask them "Hey, could you guys tell me if it is ok to run your product on our systems ?" Anyway you can see from a post below and I'm going to quote the exact thing for your benefit.
The reason why they won't upgrade to Vista is that it will entail hardware upgrade costs, which can be avoided by using an OS which is more mature than Vista at the moment. I don't see any need to upgrade to Vista for academic purposes. I am sure 3-4 years down the line, they'd upgrade to Vista.
This is a true real life scenario. Companies don't just put Vista on their systems cause suddenly it came out
. Most companies do it cause it either makes business sense for them. This has nothing to do with being part of a Partner Program . Of course it does help getting free upgrades if it does entitle them to that though.
By the way lay off the "this must be a newer thing for some of the guys" attitude. It won't get you anywhere.
As you straightly jumped to companies and hifi architecture of things... i would rather skip the next part as this aint necessary coz you are just spreading a word thats NA *** mentioned before !
I don't spread FUD. I post what I feel is applicable to a topic.
my dear friend business runs only on assumptions and things that you plan to be in fact... ! i wonder what kind of a firm would that be which chooses a blank year directory and no plans for a renewal or addition.. i hope that the firms that uses Linux ?? maybe ( no offense to others)
This tells me clearly you haven't probably worked in the field? You don't run businesses on
assumptions. You set a strategic plan on where your main goal is to maintain a competitive edge over your competitors or enhance your brand name in some way. Its like a game of chess.
1. You Attack
2. You Defend
3. You enhance your position
You might want to read yup on CSF's it might help you understand business logic further. Again I don't care if Linux does/does not get installed anywhere. Is this so hard to comprehend?
lets take vista ... why did Microsoft does not stay with Windows 95 ? or more stably XP with SP3 it rocks ? isnt it ?
They made Vista to make money
. Get over it already . Not on some righteous quest to help the community out.
can you answer what Runs a Supercomputer ? and well it was a say ( means Expression of speech for saying LOAD on a computer.. )
I have no idea what in the world the above means. Are you telling someone that hes not running a supercomputer or something? I'm sorry I'm probably to old for this new generation dialects.
my theory does not says that the applications will hang or crash on XP but just try opening up 100 Internet explorers at once in XP and FF in Linux and then try the same on Vista and tell me which does the same fast and reliable...
I'm not even going here cause it has nothing to do with the topic at all. Basically you're saying that a premium product is justified to crash just cause Linux does? Further more I think axxo mentioned what applications he was running. It was 2 if I recall right.
Analyzing your facts makes me think INDIA should have stayed with US Space craft launchers and should not have developed it own, coz it was a Assumption that it might succeed and will bring something to INDIA...
Get your facts right . It was not an assumption. It was a
plan. We had the knowledge ,we had the resources , we did the development. In the case of Microsoft. You hope that Microsoft will bring out fixes , You hope that it will fix your problems, and you definitely pray that your investment reaps you benefits.
Even i am confused that why you wrote what you wrote.. COZ we were not talking about business community here and FYI : A software Fail or Success is based just on Business community as Home users are agroup which is too a small to count success..
Theres nothing confusing in my post from what I see. Clarify what you need explained and I'll happily do it. Just because you didn't read the topic doesn't mean that I can't post about it. A software typically becomes a success if they basically can recover what they invested in it and its not segregated by communities . As far as quality goes it extends beyond that. Software Engineering 101 look it up.
and one more thing : does a normal car and lamborghini has a difference between them ? both drive us ? but does one has anything extraordinary or compare Diablo and gallarado ? are both same , why did they release a superior model , both would have made 300kmph easily ?? why man ?
No they both don't drive you. You drive them. People don't buy Lamborghinis on roads which support 100 mph cars but of course theres always the style factor
. Are you implying that Vista is the "in thing" or a fad now? We are not talking about companies releasing products. We are talking about reasons Businesses might be skipping Vista. In your above example the answer is simple.
1. Id have to sell both legs and arms to afford it
2. Id go bankrupt filling gas in it.
3. My roads don't support 300 mph l337 cars.
4. Where in the world would I go for support(maintenance)
Do you now see what I'm talking about? I'm not asking why Microsoft released the product . I'm basically checking everyones view on why Vista might not be adapted to the business environment at the moment.
