Businesses Consider Skipping Vista
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Krazy_About_Technology
Padawan
@GX_Saurav: That what me and shantanu were talking about a little before on chat. Optimization is the way to go for Windows 7, as it was when Windows XP was released after Windows 2000. It had a lot of optimizations over 2000. sure there were some problem in it due to introduction of new features, like the explorer crashes and all, but SP2 fixed most of 'em.
@imav: ya but since there was not as much pre-release publicity linked with it, so not many people heard about it and its "problems"
@imav: ya but since there was not as much pre-release publicity linked with it, so not many people heard about it and its "problems"
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Jayanth.M.P
Journeyman
Vista is a good OS. I also dont get one concept... you dont cry when the next version of ur favourite game has higher minimum requirements.....then why do u cry when Windows asks for the same ?. Its a piece of software
Regarding business....the primary aim of any business organization is to keep cost at a minimum and thats why some are migrating over to linux.
Linux is great in its own ways.....it provides a indepth understanding OS concepts and working.Talk about plus points on your side (you have a lots of it) rather than trying to bring out the negatives of the other OS.
Regarding business....the primary aim of any business organization is to keep cost at a minimum and thats why some are migrating over to linux.
Linux is great in its own ways.....it provides a indepth understanding OS concepts and working.Talk about plus points on your side (you have a lots of it) rather than trying to bring out the negatives of the other OS.
dheeraj_kumar
Legen-wait for it-dary!
^^ the thing about games is, if you dont have a fast comp, you can play it at a console(if a version is available) in a net cafe, or a game center, or your friend's place. Not the same with OS... Its a piece of software allright, but its a very vital piece of software. When you complete a game, you can throw it away and play another. OS is not like that. A game is optional to a computer, but an OS is indispensible.
iMav
The Devil's Advocate
Hardware & Software development have to go hand in hand, if 1GB of RAM is standard and available we need OSs that can harness the same, I find 1 thing not understandable in your example, why do you upgrade your computer then? If cyber cafes and consoles are there, why do you upgrade your computer? You should still be on a P1, because you can play games on your console or at a cyber cafe. According to you softwares like Photoshop, Corel etc are optional and one can go to a cyber cafe to work on them, then why need Desktops, one should do everything on a cyber cafe computer & all our desktops should be P1s.
You cannot & should not have rapid development in hardware, where we have dx 10 cards like 8800gt and operating systems like 95 which run dx 5. Software development & Hardware development need to go together, if softwre can offer dx 10, we need hardware that uses dx 10 capabilities, if we can have dx 10 hardware why should there not be software that uses dx 10?
You cannot & should not have rapid development in hardware, where we have dx 10 cards like 8800gt and operating systems like 95 which run dx 5. Software development & Hardware development need to go together, if softwre can offer dx 10, we need hardware that uses dx 10 capabilities, if we can have dx 10 hardware why should there not be software that uses dx 10?
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chandru.in
In the zone
@iMav
OS is different from other applications. An OS should assist in running other apps. It should not use all resources itself.
Games - Entertains me.
App servers and IDEs - Help me learn technology or earn money.
Graphics Apps - Same as the previous one.
An OS does not sole any of these purposes. Continuously flipping the windows and seeing 3D flip is neither fun nor productive. May be except for Microsoft sales reps for whom demonstrating it will give money.
Another difference is when I finish using an app I can close it and all its resources are available for other apps and tasks I wanna do. That is not the case with an OS. It sits in memory all the time when my computer is up.
I upgrade my hardware to run more powerful apps not to run just an OS.
OS is different from other applications. An OS should assist in running other apps. It should not use all resources itself.
Games - Entertains me.
App servers and IDEs - Help me learn technology or earn money.
Graphics Apps - Same as the previous one.
An OS does not sole any of these purposes. Continuously flipping the windows and seeing 3D flip is neither fun nor productive. May be except for Microsoft sales reps for whom demonstrating it will give money.
Another difference is when I finish using an app I can close it and all its resources are available for other apps and tasks I wanna do. That is not the case with an OS. It sits in memory all the time when my computer is up.
I upgrade my hardware to run more powerful apps not to run just an OS.
axxo
99.9% Idle
Vista sucks when it comes to memory management. I tired opening a 4GB MPEG-2 file with virtualdub...due to large file size and limited free memory left for the app all the video data got pushed on to pagefile.sys(tracked stats using perfmon /res) further am stopped from using any other programs as system(4GB RAM) started to behave sluggish thereafter.
iMav
The Devil's Advocate
What OS are you running right now?
@axxo, Vista sucks according to you, not according to me, not according to a lot of other people, it sucks according to some and does not according to others, forcing your opinion as something said by God is well just say stupid on an individual's part.
chandru.in
In the zone
Ubuntu 8.04 on both of my machines. One with 2 GB RAM and other with 256 MB RAM. Both have VRAM of 64 MB.
But I confess I don't spend my CPU cycles and RAM area on anti-virus programs.
iMav
The Devil's Advocate
Dude wtf! how come you are using Ubuntu 8.04, MCC interim linux uses the least resources 
why not use that
Besides if you are on linux why are u teaching us about what windows is and is not?
You like Linux use it, is nay1 stopping you from using it, why are u crapping threads regarding Windows, is any Windows user coming and spamming the OSS section? What is wrong with FOSS users, can't you guys just accept the fact that there are more Windows users and than FOSS users across the wordl, leave with it. Sheesh!
why not use that Besides if you are on linux why are u teaching us about what windows is and is not?
You like Linux use it, is nay1 stopping you from using it, why are u crapping threads regarding Windows, is any Windows user coming and spamming the OSS section? What is wrong with FOSS users, can't you guys just accept the fact that there are more Windows users and than FOSS users across the wordl, leave with it. Sheesh!
victor_rambo
हॉर्न ओके प्लीज़
Before ranting about Vista and Microsoft products, did you ever compare the sales figure or Vista and the number of rants you find online?
victor_rambo
हॉर्न ओके प्लीज़
no, just in general. But you are always welcome to answer that
chandru.in
In the zone
Dude wtf! how come you are using Ubuntu 8.04, MCC interim linux uses the least resources
Besides if you are on linux why are u teaching us about what windows is and is not?
I use Ubuntu because it gives good balance between resource usage and usability.
And I'm not saying this without trying Vista. Vista slowed down to a crawl on a system with 2 GB RAM without Aero the moment I started Eclipse and Glassfish together. But my Ubuntu runs fine with much more load than that.
It slows down with Flash and Photoshop open at a time too. But could not reproduce similar load on Ubuntu so can't do a fair comparison there.
Please ask Dell, HP, Lenovo and Sony to give a choice of OS when buying Laptop then tell me about sales figures. Also, ask BSA in India to raid homes for pirated software. The second one may not be directly related to sales of Vista but if people are forced to buy legal copies they would choose low cost of Linux and that would allow workplaces to buy and use non-Windows OS. If everyone knows only Windows then offices have to buy it too.
iMav
The Devil's Advocate
axxo
99.9% Idle
I'm not working for anyone to give others a false information. from my own experience what i happened to see and what i come across only them i posted. If you still dont trust why don't u try yourself the test i posted above. Moreover its not just me or some but most say vista a thump down product. Btw did god(or M$) ask you to defend vista from others?
iMav
The Devil's Advocate
Just like your experience has been bad and you criticize it, my experience has been good and I appreciate itI'm not working for anyone to give others a false information. from my own experience what i happened to see and what i come across only them i posted. If you still dont trust why don't u try yourself the test i posted above. Moreover its not just me or some but most say vista a thump down product. Btw did god(or M$) ask you to defend vista from others?
Oh btw did God or (Canonical) ask you to bad mouth Vista in front of others?
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