Basic Guide Purchase a New System

[topgear]

Only Palit Sells at this range a 9600GT.

Sparkle also sells this in the same price range. I got quote of Rs. 5800 for sparkle 9600GT 3 months ago.

@shyamno - buy asus board. XFX boards just sucks ( based on my personal experience )

Guys is it true that g31 chipset have some memory issue like
we cannot use dual sided rams ( ie ram which have chips on both sides )
& also some 2GB stick limitation.

Quote from P5KPL-CM Manual :

This motheboard doesn't supports double sided x16 memory modules.

From pdf manual page no. 15

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2566&stc=1&d=1229908402

 

[shyamno]

@ topgear

so how should I know whether the RAM is single or double sided.Is there something written on its cover or something like that so that i can figure it out before opening the pack?I would go for ZION/TRANSCEND/KINGSTON.Do they come in double sided in anyway ?

Also what about the sparkle 9600GT?i know Palit is a good brand but if i get the sparkle one will it give me the same performance ?

 

[JojoTheDragon]

check out before you buy here www.palit.biz

 

[topgear]

@ topgear

so how should I know whether the RAM is single or double sided.Is there something written on its cover or something like that so that i can figure it out before opening the pack?I would go for ZION/TRANSCEND/KINGSTON.Do they come in double sided in anyway ?

Also what about the sparkle 9600GT?i know Palit is a good brand but if i get the sparkle one will it give me the same performance ?

For a list of the supported memory see this list :
*dlsvr04.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5KPL-CM/P5KPL-CM_QVL.zip

Most of the value ram is single sided. I've used kingston & Transcend value rams.

I've zion ddr rams which is single sided.

I think dual sided 1GB module will work with this board though I'm not sure.
Ask someone in the forum who have bought this board.

Update :
Go to these links & ask mihirpradhan2004 & adscience if they are using value rams & don't forget to post the results in here - That will help many people.

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100946&highlight=asus+p5kpl-cm
*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101066&highlight=asus+p5kpl-cm

Check the faq section here : *support.asus.com/faq/faq.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=P5KPL-CM

Sparkle & palit will give you same performance & while buying sparkle card buy which one has active cooling ie cooled by a fan.

 

[QuickSilver]

Guys i need ur opinion abt this cause i have very little know-how about upgrades
i m planning to buy
Quad Core
8800 graphic card
what motherboad should i buy...plz give complete info...

 

[comp@ddict]

U crazy 8800GT?????

Tell me ur complete budget and then I can help.

 

[spy king]

Hello!


I currently have a P4 Based rig with a intel 845 board..
I was wondering would it be possible to upgrade only the Motherboard to a GA-G31M-S2L and upgrade to ddr2 Ram with the old P4 Proccy?

I would later(1-2 months) get a newer Proccy..

Would this work out??
Will I see any performance increase due to the Ddr2 ram??


thanks

 

[Psychosocial]

Nope.

G31 based mobos only support LGA 775 based proccys.

 

[keith_j_snyder2]

Guys i need ur opinion abt this cause i have very little know-how about upgrades
i m planning to buy
Quad Core
8800 graphic card
what motherboad should i buy...plz give complete info...

Yeah man u need to be more specific than that like what exactly in ur mind with proper model no. & if there is budget, that will be more helpful!

 

[soul_reaverrocks]

Hello guys!!..
u guys seem 2 b commendable...and helpful..
I m a noob in here an ..Please help on da following:

I am planning to replace my old rig (P4 2.6, 945 Mobo,512MB SD RAM, Samsung 80 GB HD, Geforce 5200 FX(yaa....d oldie)

I plan to reuse the Sony DVD RW and Creative 5.1 Speakers, also I have a Intex Sound Card which I think..i can utilize!!!

I tried purusing the older posts...and mayb I've gained smething bt nw i m confused..
(Budget approx. 20-25 K (+/- 2000) excluding Monitor, Speakers, DVD RW)
(Usage: Preferably for gaming(not an xtereme gamer bt shud run all current and future games at drscent FPS and visuals) and entertainment, video editing etc.)
Consider OC is nt necessary fr me if it gives descent FPS and visuals while gaming at stock settings bt shud b futre proof as I want to use it till next 4-5 years at least

I have my eyes on:

Proc: Core 2 Quad Q6600
Mobo: MSI P45 Neo-F or MSI P35 Neo-F or ASUS P5N32- E-SLI(preferance) (do nt wanna spend mre den 4-6k...shd support PCI E 2.0/SLI etc.)
Video Card: I prefer Nvidia over ATI (Donno da reason) 8800 GTX or 9800 GTX (lemme know d brand..xfx/msi/palit..shud be between 6k-9K)
Hard Disk: 250 GB 7,200 RPM (suggest d brand)
Ram: DDR2 -2GB 800 Fsb (Suggest d brand , approx: 1.5 K)
Keyboard/mouse: <1k, suggest d brand and model
Cabinet/SMPS: 1.5K-2K

Hopefully dudes..u guys can help me build my dream rig within dat budget..
Kindly mention the prices also.

Looking forward to your support /thanx in advance!!

 

[ganeshravi]

Hello guys!!..
u guys seem 2 b commendable...and helpful..
I m a noob in here an ..Please help on da following:

I am planning to replace my old rig (P4 2.6, 945 Mobo,512MB SD RAM, Samsung 80 GB HD, Geforce 5200 FX(yaa....d oldie)

I plan to reuse the Sony DVD RW and Creative 5.1 Speakers, also I have a Intex Sound Card which I think..i can utilize!!!

I tried purusing the older posts...and mayb I've gained smething bt nw i m confused..
(Budget approx. 20-25 K (+/- 2000) excluding Monitor, Speakers, DVD RW)
(Usage: Preferably for gaming(not an xtereme gamer bt shud run all current and future games at drscent FPS and visuals) and entertainment, video editing etc.)
Consider OC is nt necessary fr me if it gives descent FPS and visuals while gaming at stock settings bt shud b futre proof as I want to use it till next 4-5 years at least

I have my eyes on:

Proc: Core 2 Quad Q6600
Mobo: MSI P45 Neo-F or MSI P35 Neo-F or ASUS P5N32- E-SLI(preferance) (do nt wanna spend mre den 4-6k...shd support PCI E 2.0/SLI etc.)
Video Card: I prefer Nvidia over ATI (Donno da reason) 8800 GTX or 9800 GTX (lemme know d brand..xfx/msi/palit..shud be between 6k-9K)
Hard Disk: 250 GB 7,200 RPM (suggest d brand)
Ram: DDR2 -2GB 800 Fsb (Suggest d brand , approx: 1.5 K)
Keyboard/mouse: <1k, suggest d brand and model
Cabinet/SMPS: 1.5K-2K

Hopefully dudes..u guys can help me build my dream rig within dat budget..
Kindly mention the prices also.

Looking forward to your support /thanx in advance!!

future proof for the next 4-5 yrs... whoa... not possible my friend at 25k...

the proccy is good. go for the 45nm
MSI P45 NEO F is the best vfm for 6k.
2gb 800Mhz ram is 1300 from transcend
HDD would be WD or seagate
kb n mouse, go for wired logitech gaming sets
cabby, go for zebrinics bijili

hi,

one of my friends got a 2GB transcend single module at 800MHz...
he was wondering if he could add another 1GB stick to the setup.... i didnt know about tat... afaik., i've installed rams which are symmetric... so i got no idea about one 2gb and one 1gb.... is advisable to install in such a fashion.?

 

[Psychosocial]

Hello guys!!..
u guys seem 2 b commendable...and helpful..
I m a noob in here an ..Please help on da following:

I am planning to replace my old rig (P4 2.6, 945 Mobo,512MB SD RAM, Samsung 80 GB HD, Geforce 5200 FX(yaa....d oldie)

I plan to reuse the Sony DVD RW and Creative 5.1 Speakers, also I have a Intex Sound Card which I think..i can utilize!!!

I tried purusing the older posts...and mayb I've gained smething bt nw i m confused..
(Budget approx. 20-25 K (+/- 2000) excluding Monitor, Speakers, DVD RW)
(Usage: Preferably for gaming(not an xtereme gamer bt shud run all current and future games at drscent FPS and visuals) and entertainment, video editing etc.)
Consider OC is nt necessary fr me if it gives descent FPS and visuals while gaming at stock settings bt shud b futre proof as I want to use it till next 4-5 years at least

I have my eyes on:

Proc: Core 2 Quad Q6600
Mobo: MSI P45 Neo-F or MSI P35 Neo-F or ASUS P5N32- E-SLI(preferance) (do nt wanna spend mre den 4-6k...shd support PCI E 2.0/SLI etc.)
Video Card: I prefer Nvidia over ATI (Donno da reason) 8800 GTX or 9800 GTX (lemme know d brand..xfx/msi/palit..shud be between 6k-9K)
Hard Disk: 250 GB 7,200 RPM (suggest d brand)
Ram: DDR2 -2GB 800 Fsb (Suggest d brand , approx: 1.5 K)
Keyboard/mouse: <1k, suggest d brand and model
Cabinet/SMPS: 1.5K-2K

Hopefully dudes..u guys can help me build my dream rig within dat budget..
Kindly mention the prices also.

Looking forward to your support /thanx in advance!!

Go for :-

E8400
MSI P45 Neo-F
2GB DDR2 800MHz RAM
Palit HD4850 512MB GDDR3
Western Digital Caviar 640GB SE16 HDD
Logitech Gaming G1 kbd/mouse combo
Zebronics Bijli cabinet
Corsair VX450W PSU

The grafix card I suggested is from ATi. Thats simply coz ATi is performing better in mid-range than NVIDIA currently. If you want to stick to NVIDIA then grab yourself an eVGA 9800GTX+ 512MB GDDR3

 

[soul_reaverrocks]

Go for :-

E8400
MSI P45 Neo-F
2GB DDR2 800MHz RAM
Palit HD4850 512MB GDDR3
Western Digital Caviar 640GB SE16 HDD
Logitech Gaming G1 kbd/mouse combo
Zebronics Bijli cabinet
Corsair VX450W PSU

The grafix card I suggested is from ATi. Thats simply coz ATi is performing better in mid-range than NVIDIA currently. If you want to stick to NVIDIA then grab yourself an eVGA 9800GTX+ 512MB GDDR3

Umm..Thnx fr d lovely configs.!! Psychosocial/Ganeshravi !!

@Psychosocial
..bt do u rememba d price quote: 20-25 K(+/- 2000)
E8400-But don't u think we mite require procs with 4 cores in future..shud i nt go fr Quad??(if so ..da reason??)
Mobo: can i also go fr smthing cheaper yet supportive in all features??(I no....i m asking fr 2 much..lolzzz)
RAM: wd u suggest any specific brand?
640 GB HD..?? won't dat b costly??
also can u temme in wat terms ATI is better then Nvidia??

It wud b helpful if u can please quote the price for every part....
Thnks fr ur responses in advances!!..

Others can also suggest if u please 2 do so..

 

[ganeshravi]

hi,
i want to buy a decent cabinet for 3.5k - 4k... can someone enlighten me..?

 

[Psychosocial]

Umm..Thnx fr d lovely configs.!! Psychosocial/Ganeshravi !!

@Psychosocial
..bt do u rememba d price quote: 20-25 K(+/- 2000)
E8400-But don't u think we mite require procs with 4 cores in future..shud i nt go fr Quad??(if so ..da reason??)
Mobo: can i also go fr smthing cheaper yet supportive in all features??(I no....i m asking fr 2 much..lolzzz)
RAM: wd u suggest any specific brand?
640 GB HD..?? won't dat b costly??
also can u temme in wat terms ATI is better then Nvidia??

It wud b helpful if u can please quote the price for every part....
Thnks fr ur responses in advances!!..

Others can also suggest if u please 2 do so..

C2Ds are performing better in games ATM. And if you buy a Quad, it will increase your cost (10.5k is the cheapest AFAIK). The mobo I suggested is perfect for your price range. It will also support C2Qs. The new i7s use a new architecture so if you are thinking to purchase them in the future, you will have to get a new mobo. So MSI P45 Neo-F is perfect for your price range. The grafix card I mentioned is THE best in your price range. Anyone on this forum will stand by it. It performs really good. So keep your fanboyism aside and go for it. For RAM, I suggest either Kingston or Transcend. The 640GB HDD costs 2.9-3.1k only .

hi,
i want to buy a decent cabinet for 3.5k - 4k... can someone enlighten me..?

Look no further than Cooler Master CM690

 

[comp@ddict]

Umm..Thnx fr d lovely configs.!! Psychosocial/Ganeshravi !!

@Psychosocial
..bt do u rememba d price quote: 20-25 K(+/- 2000)
E8400-But don't u think we mite require procs with 4 cores in future..shud i nt go fr Quad??(if so ..da reason??)
Mobo: can i also go fr smthing cheaper yet supportive in all features??(I no....i m asking fr 2 much..lolzzz)
RAM: wd u suggest any specific brand?
640 GB HD..?? won't dat b costly??
also can u temme in wat terms ATI is better then Nvidia??

It wud b helpful if u can please quote the price for every part....
Thnks fr ur responses in advances!!..

Others can also suggest if u please 2 do so..

Okay I'm okay with ur oder crap questions, but the one wich says AMD better than nVidia wich terms blew it!!!

Nxt time, b'fore asking such a thing, google, or try to surf up ANY TECHNO SITE!!! DuDE THIS IS 21st century, where u hav to abe a li'l self-informative, not the GAI CHARANE WALA AGE!!!!!!

I may act a bit agitated so plz xcuse me for that.

 

[desiibond]

hi,
i want to buy a decent cabinet for 3.5k - 4k... can someone enlighten me..?

Cooler Master Elite 330 I think will be a good one for you.

 

[janitha]

hi,
i want to buy a decent cabinet for 3.5k - 4k... can someone enlighten me..?

Nothing other than Coolermaster 690 which you should get for 4K or less. ( I bought mine for 3.7K before the price hike.) Spacious, good looking and comes with 3 120mm fans with option to add another 3 120mm ones. But I will advice to replace the stock ones with high CFM fans, later on.

 

[soul_reaverrocks]

Okay I'm okay with ur oder crap questions, but the one wich says AMD better than nVidia wich terms blew it!!!

Nxt time, b'fore asking such a thing, google, or try to surf up ANY TECHNO SITE!!! DuDE THIS IS 21st century, where u hav to abe a li'l self-informative, not the GAI CHARANE WALA AGE!!!!!!

I may act a bit agitated so plz xcuse me for that.

Hey dude..??wats rong wid u..??did i woke u up frm sleep??i was jst gathering info. does that hurt u??
neways,..if u can't hel[p jst stay out pleaz..i do nt want criticism on my knowledge or sombebody's suggestions..

I need assistance and not criticism on my tech knowledge.

wat wud b da price of HD 4850 512MB DDR3 ??..is it cheaper them 8800 GTX or 9800 GTX?/

 

[ganeshravi]

Nothing other than Coolermaster 690 which you should get for 4K or less. ( I bought mine for 3.7K before the price hike.) Spacious, good looking and comes with 3 120mm fans with option to add another 3 120mm ones. But I will advice to replace the stock ones with high CFM fans, later on.

are the fans included in the package not cooler master brand? and what does CFM mean... i currently have a zebronics elegance cabinet fitted with 2 coolermaster blue 120mm led fans... is that enough for the 690.?