Basic Guide Purchase a New System

[pulsar_swift]

both perform almost the same
but athlon x4 630 is more VFM

If both are performing at the same level.

X4 630 is at 5200 and Core i3 is at 5700

This 400 price diff is the VFM ?

 

[Jaskanwar Singh]

630 has 4 real cores while i3 has 2 real + 2 hyperthreaded
ht cores our not as good as the real ones

if you into 3d rendering and all 630 is more good
if you game i3 will be better, also you can overclock it a lot
but given that games are also becoming multi threaded then it is obvious that 630 will be better in the long run

moreover 630 can be paired with a 785g chipset mobo which has a lot better onboard graphics (hd4200) compared to h55, h57, q57 chipsets' x4500 if you are not going for graphics card

so on the whole 630 is better

 

[coderunknown]

630 has 4 real cores while i3 has 2 real + 2 hyperthreaded
ht cores our not as good as the real ones

if you into 3d rendering and all 630 is more good
if you game i3 will be better, also you can overclock it a lot
but given that games are also becoming multi threaded then it is obvious that 630 will be better in the long run

moreover 630 can be paired with a 785g chipset mobo which has a lot better onboard graphics (hd4200) compared to h55, h57, q57 chipsets' x4500 if you are not going for graphics card

so on the whole 630 is better

exactly. 4 real cores always better than 2 real + 2 virtual. & the i3's graphics just sucks. it is faster than G45. but still not able catch 785G which avl for as low as 3k in the old DDR2 boards. 780G even goes into 2.* price point.

anyone considering i3, get i5 750 or move to AMD side.

 

[soumya.b]

Guide to Build a New System

hi,

i want to build a system by which huge calculation will be done from a large database( approximate size of the database would be 2 to 5 GB).
budget : 25000+-5%.
requirement:
1. Processor
2. MotherBoard
3. HDD
4. RAM
5. DVD-RW
6. Cabinet

thanks in advance

 

[Piyush]

Re: Guide to Build a New System

hi,

i want to build a system by which huge calculation will be done from a large database( approximate size of the database would be 2 to 5 GB).
budget : 25000+-5%.
requirement:
1. Processor
2. MotherBoard
3. HDD
4. RAM
5. DVD-RW
6. Cabinet

thanks in advance

processor->AMD athlonII x3 435
mobo->785g based mobo
hdd->western digital/seagatte 1tb
ram->2*2gb (gskill/ocz/corsair/kingston)1600mhz
any good dvd writer
NZXT gamma cabinet

this is coming around 22k

 

[coderunknown]

Re: Guide to Build a New System

processor->AMD athlonII x3 435
mobo->785g based mobo
hdd->western digital/seagatte 1tb
ram->2*2gb (gskill/ocz/corsair/kingston)1600mhz
any good dvd writer
NZXT gamma cabinet

this is coming around 22k

he wants pc which got raw power. X3 will lag. & piyush, its better put more money in real work, rather than style (spell it gamma ). anyway X4 955/965 or if possible i5 750. so the real image comes like this:

Phenom II X4 955 3.2GHz B.E @ 8k or X4 965 3.4GHz B.E C3 @ 9k
Biostar TA785G3 HD @ 4.3k or MSI 785G-E53 @ 5.5k ---> both support 140W CPU.
Transcend 2GB DDR3 1333MHz C9 @ 2.6k (1 stick) ---> add 1 more stick.
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ 2.3k
LG 22X DVD @ 1.1k
FSP Saga II 400 Watts @ 2.2k
Cooler Master Elite 310 @ 1.5k ---> if budget permits get NZXT gamma.

Total: 22k-24.2k. so including tax & all everything will be in your budget. if you can, get X4 955 & add 1 more 2Gb DDR3 stick.

 

[Piyush]

Re: Guide to Build a New System

he wants pc which got raw power. X3 will lag. & piyush, its better put more money in real work, rather than style (spell it gamma ). anyway X4 955/965 or if possible i5 750. so the real image comes like this:

Phenom II X4 955 3.2GHz B.E @ 8k or X4 965 3.4GHz B.E C3 @ 9k
Biostar TA785G3 HD @ 4.3k or MSI 785G-E53 @ 5.5k ---> both support 140W CPU.
Transcend 2GB DDR3 1333MHz C9 @ 2.6k (1 stick) ---> add 1 more stick.
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ 2.3k
LG 22X DVD @ 1.1k
FSP Saga II 400 Watts @ 2.2k
Cooler Master Elite 310 @ 1.5k ---> if budget permits get NZXT gamma.

Total: 22k-24.2k. so including tax & all everything will be in your budget. if you can, get X4 955 & add 1 more 2Gb DDR3 stick.

hey do this database stuff require this much speed?
man!!
i've to be careful in future

 

[soumya.b]

Re: Guide to Build a New System

processor->AMD athlonII x3 435
mobo->785g based mobo
hdd->western digital/seagatte 1tb
ram->2*2gb (gskill/ocz/corsair/kingston)1600mhz
any good dvd writer
NZXT gamma cabinet

this is coming around 22k

AMD Phenom or Intel i3/i5 is not possible within this price?

 

[coderunknown]

Re: Guide to Build a New System

hey do this database stuff require this much speed?
man!!
i've to be careful in future

i2 not sure but definitely its not everyday gaming stuff or multitasking. so more power, better. also OP pointed:

large database( approximate size of the database would be 2 to 5 GB).

so, i think more speed will help him out more. speed + cache memory + cores = better performance.

AMD Phenom or Intel i3/i5 is not possible within this price?

Phenom II is what i given. i3 not sure, basically its dual core only + HT. i5 too costly + will need at least a 1k graphics card to run your pc. so i skipped idea of i5 also.

 

[topgear]

@ piyush120290 - database can require more power than this ... it depends upon the size, maximum number of connections etc. - more the loads more power a DB requires

@ soumya.b - get 2x HDD and run them in RAID0 mode for maximum speed as 2-5 GB database is fairly large enough and for Ram try to get atleast 4 GB ( 2 stick running in dual channel )

BTW, what's is your DB based on oracle, sql, mysql or something else ?

 

[prvprv]

1) my 2 year old LG DVD writer has gone bad. Its writng about 60% and starts writing Lead out and gives a session fixation error or something. What might be the problem? can we repair it or have to get a new one? ( Have updated firmware also but no use)

2) There are 4 or 5 different models in Sparkle 9500 GT 512MB. Which one is better? if I get a card with 2 DVI outputs can i use an DVI to VGA adapter for one of my monitors? If so what would be the price of that adapter?

3) Thinking of getting Samsung 2033 SW+ monitor for around 7.2 k. Is it better to get a Benq G2200 for around 8k instead?

 

[asingh]

Re: Guide to Build a New System

hi,

i want to build a system by which huge calculation will be done from a large database( approximate size of the database would be 2 to 5 GB).
budget : 25000+-5%.
requirement:
1. Processor
2. MotherBoard
3. HDD
4. RAM
5. DVD-RW
6. Cabinet

thanks in advance

What will be the RDBMS architecture (SQL, Oracle), and what is the front end. Will development work also happen on this system, or is it native production.

 

[topgear]

@ prvprv - get a new one...

look for 512MB DDR3 version of 9500GT and if you can't find one you may have to settle for DDR2 version only. BTW, if you can spend 5-5.5K then HD5670 512MB would be nice choice.

Better get the 22 inch one as it has more visual estate and has full HD resolution.

 

[Revolution]

Is HD5670 512MB good for playing modern gaming at HD(medium setting) ?

 

[Zangetsu]

Is HD5670 512MB good for playing modern gaming at HD(medium setting) ?

get @least HD5750.....

 

[prvprv]

@ prvprv - get a new one...

look for 512MB DDR3 version of 9500GT and if you can't find one you may have to settle for DDR2 version only. BTW, if you can spend 5-5.5K then HD5670 512MB would be nice choice.

Better get the 22 inch one as it has more visual estate and has full HD resolution.

Thanks topgear.

My budget for graphics card is <3k only so i think i cant have DDR3.
is Benq monitors are good? are their contrast ratios etc are competent with samsung and dell? wat about LG?
Prices of Benq monitors are lower than samsung and dell monitors but im worried about their warranty and service issues.

 

[azaad_shri75]

how is the performance of seagate 1tb drives or is it better to get blue/green drives from WD

 

[Piyush]

Is HD5670 512MB good for playing modern gaming at HD(medium setting) ?

not sure
but i can understand why u are asking this question
i think its bcoz u had a bad expirience with ur 9600gt recently
is that so??

 

[Revolution]

not sure
but i can understand why u are asking this question
i think its bcoz u had a bad expirience with ur 9600gt recently
is that so??

U almost got me.....

 

[topgear]

@ Revolution - HD5670 will be able to handle HD resolution in games with minimum details for most modern gaems.

@ prvprv - BenQ Monitors got best buy gold award in this months digit mag ... so rest assured about performance

Then get 9500GT with 512MB of DDR2 mem ..

@ azaad_shri75 - seagate 1TB will be better any day as compared to WD green or even blue series ... read digit jan 2010 mag ..