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desiibond

Bond, Desi Bond!
Hi desiibond..I managed to push my budget up to 35k...have been lookin around to get best config possible within the budget...can u tell how wud d following config rate...

AMD phenom II X2 550 BE
Gigabyte 780g board/Biostar TA790GXB..
Corsair XMS2 DDR2 2GB x 2..
Sapphire HD4770/HD4850
Samsung 2033SW
Seagate 7200.12 500GB HDD
Cabinet [Need suggestion]
Corsair vx450 / cx400

Also, a few questions :D

a) Which card is better out of the two..4770/4850?
b) Will these cards b good for max out display on 2033SW?
c) Which board would be better with the X2 550 processor and other components Ive mentioned..
and finally..
d) Can u plz Suggest a cabinet [max 2k]for this config..

Thanx!

PS : Inputs from others are welcomed too :D

EDIT : Grammar..

HD4850 will be a perfect match for 2033SW.
Go for gigabyte as it is more stable but if you like doing some tweaking, go for Biostar's. some were able to unlcok X2 550 as quad core on that mobo. For stability and reliability, my pick would be Gigabyte/ASUS
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for 2k, zebroincs reaper should be a good buy. my suggestion would be CM Elite 335 for 2.5k
 
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damngoodman999

damnbadman666
HD4850 will be a perfect match for 2033SW.
Go for gigabyte as it is more stable but if you like doing some tweaking, go for Biostar's. some were able to unlcok X2 550 as quad core on that mobo. For stability and reliability, my pick would be Gigabyte/ASUS
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for 2k, zebroincs reaper should be a good buy. my suggestion would be CM Elite 335 for 2.5k

Everything is just fine , But for monitor Go for 19" / 21.5" / 18.5" inch Samsung 2033sw most games donot have 1600 X 900 this resolution
 

kurtailed

Right off the assembly line
Thnx guys...I think I will go for Gigabyte mobo..

If 2033sw's resolution [1600x900] is not supported by most of the games then wat other options do I have for a monitor in similar range?..and should the graphic card change too?
 

damngoodman999

damnbadman666
Thnx guys...I think I will go for Gigabyte mobo..

If 2033sw's resolution [1600x900] is not supported by most of the games then wat other options do I have for a monitor in similar range?..and should the graphic card change too?

Add 1K get Benq G2220 HD full HD monitor @ 1080p

comes 8.4K
 

niladrisde

Dhishum
I am looking to build a new desktop system, which

  1. Consumes very low power (<40W for CPU+MoBo desired)
  2. Cheap (<5k for CPU+Graphics-built-in MoBo)
  3. Extremely stable (looking to use as server 24x7)
  4. Ubuntu Linux compatible (Not being a Linux-pro, I am just looking to do a vanilla Ubuntu installation)
  5. Decent performance
  6. Available in Kolkata
Can you give me any suggestions?

Earlier members suggested to go with D945GCLF2 (Atom A330 dual-core based). But I could not yet locate a retailer in Kolkata who sells D945GCLF2. Any pointers would be very helpful...

Thanks in advance.
 

damngoodman999

damnbadman666
Its a 22" monitor..Ive heard that for that screen size at least a HD4870 [Which I wont buy..a bit costly..] is required for playing games at best settings...

Im confused again! :|

U should know that Even GTX295 struggles game like crysis @ 1920 X 1080 resolution .

If u want to play @ native resolution then go for 19"inch ! 20" inch do not support many old games !
 

mukherjee

Treatment in progress...
Buddies...I m back after a long vacation :(
Its so that I need suggestion from u guys abt a config.

My relative's old pc died a few days ago....
The 80GB + 20GB HDDs,FDD,cabby,keyboard,mouse,speakers and 15" monitor are all dat cud b retrieved.

Now the thing is dat the retired person cant afford much, Rs.12k(-14k...max!) is all that he can set aside for the time being.

I hv been given the d responsibilty to cook up a config.

I have shortlisted:
1...CPU:
Intel Dual Core 2.5 GHz E5200 - 800 FSB/2MBCache 3375

(????E5300,2.6G/BX80571E5300 SLGTL Virtualization support)

I am confused about budget AMD CPU+Mobo combo,with AM2+ HT3.0 incompatibility with older AM2 mobos....Any suggestion?

2...Mobo:

1.Asus P5KPL CM Intel G31/ICH7 Chipset 1333 FSB 2425

2.Zotac NF610I-C-E - Value nForce 610i/GeForce 7050 1333 FSB 2300

3.MSI G31 M3F Intel® G31 Chipset 1333 FSB 2275

4.Gigabyte GA-EG41MF-S2H Intel®G41 + ICH7 Chipset 1333 FSB 3350

5.Gigabyte GA-EG31M-S2 Intel® G31 + ICH7 Chipset 1600 OC FSB 2450/

Gigabyte GA-G31M-S2L Intel® G31 + ICH7 Chipset 1600 OC FSBz 2450

3...Ram:

Kingston DDR 2 2GB /800 Mhz 1275

4...ODD:

Samsung 22x SATA SH-223F 1200

5...PSU

CoolerMaster RRS390-PMSRA3 Extreme Power 390W 1850

(????Any local SATA+PCIex PSU with 500W power)

6...UPS

MTech/Any 600/700VA 1800


Plz give ur valued suggestions.


EDIT: Also,plz recommend an alternative AMD config.

Guyz.....Say sumthing!!!!!
 

drsubhadip

In the zone
Thanks every one

So guys what is ur suggestion go with ati 4850 or nvidia gts 250
digit last month suggested power color hd 4850
what do i do
 

topgear

Super Moderator
Staff member
U should know that Even GTX295 struggles game like crysis @ 1920 X 1080 resolution .

If u want to play @ native resolution then go for 19"inch ! 20" inch do not support many old games !

Yup, GTX 295 gives some 29-30 fps in crysis @ 1920*1200 so I think it will give 2-3 fps more on 1920*1080 resolution but that still the bare minimum to enjoy a fps game.

Still there is not any single game that can hold it's position in terms of system requirements & beating the hell out of every gfx solution as comapred with crysis & crysis warhead :p
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If u r gaming @ higher resolution then go for HD 4850 1GB

If u gaming @ 19" inch & below then buy GTS 250 512MB

HD4850 & GTS 250 performs neck to neck in terms of performance but as far as I know GTS250 has slightly better performance :p

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gts-250,2172.html
 
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kurtailed

Right off the assembly line
U should know that Even GTX295 struggles game like crysis @ 1920 X 1080 resolution .

If u want to play @ native resolution then go for 19"inch ! 20" inch do not support many old games !

Okay, thanks 4 clearing tat up.. I dont have much knowledge abt hardware specs so just want 2 b sure b4 investing 35-40k..
So a final query (hopefully..)..
Will 2033sw+4850 provide respectable gaming graphix leavin aside playin at its native resolution?
 

niladrisde

Dhishum
Can somebody please help...???

I am looking to build a new desktop system, which

  1. Consumes very low power (<40W for CPU+MoBo desired)
  2. Cheap (<5k for CPU+Graphics-built-in MoBo)
  3. Extremely stable (looking to use as server 24x7)
  4. Ubuntu Linux compatible (Not being a Linux-pro, I am just looking to do a vanilla Ubuntu installation)
  5. Decent performance
  6. Available in Kolkata
Can you give me any suggestions?

Earlier members suggested to go with D945GCLF2 (Atom A330 dual-core based). But I could not yet locate a retailer in Kolkata who sells D945GCLF2. Any pointers would be very helpful...

Thanks in advance.
 

damngoodman999

damnbadman666
Okay, thanks 4 clearing tat up.. I dont have much knowledge abt hardware specs so just want 2 b sure b4 investing 35-40k..
So a final query (hopefully..)..
Will 2033sw+4850 provide respectable gaming graphix leavin aside playin at its native resolution?


Still if u want to go for 2033 then u can go !
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Yup, GTX 295 gives some 29-30 fps in crysis @ 1920*1200 so I think it will give 2-3 fps more on 1920*1080 resolution but that still the bare minimum to enjoy a fps game.

Still there is not any single game that can hold it's position in terms of system requirements & beating the hell out of every gfx solution as comapred with crysis & crysis warhead :p
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HD4850 & GTS 250 performs neck to neck in terms of performance but as far as I know GTS250 has slightly better performance :p

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gts-250,2172.html

I think u said on DX9 , tell about DX10 with all VERY HIGH settings @ 1920 X 1080 the FPS of GTX 295 will be 15FPS to 20FPS

Regarding GTS 250 & HD 4850 , GTS 250 is good , but some then like with no fully maxed out games but indeed they go for higher resolution for them memory resource is needed . so HD 4850 1GB will be good for no lagging in the game up to handle 1920 X 1080 but with out maxed out .
 
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desiibond

Bond, Desi Bond!
Can somebody please help...???

if you want a desktop that can step into shoes of server, you better increase your budget. CPU+mobo <5k means you won't get a good hardware.

anyways, go for G31 based boards from Intel and Intel E5200 CPU. My suggestion would be E7400 and a G45 board atleast but then the cpu+mobo price would be around 10k.

if linux is going to be your main platform, stick to nvidia or intel. ati sucks at linux drivers.
 

topgear

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Staff member
Still if u want to go for 2033 then u can go !
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I think u said on DX9 , tell about DX10 with all VERY HIGH settings @ 1920 X 1080 the FPS of GTX 295 will be 15FPS to 20FPS

Regarding GTS 250 & HD 4850 , GTS 250 is good , but some then like with no fully maxed out games but indeed they go for higher resolution for them memory resource is needed . so HD 4850 1GB will be good for no lagging in the game up to handle 1920 X 1080 but with out maxed out .

No buddy. It's DX10 based test :p
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-295,2107-4.html

Yup, higher resolution need more rams on gfx boards but I don't think HD4850 will offer any performance gain over GTS250 512MB version.

BTW, can you give me link so that I can be sure that HD4850 with 1GB ram performs better than GTS250.

But just saw a review on gigabyte GTX280 2GB version which does not offers any performance gain over it's 1GB version @ any resolution.
 

desiibond

Bond, Desi Bond!
^^battle between HD4850 and GTS250 is like a see saw battle. I back GTS250 here due to lower heat consumption and better driver support.

also, Palit GTX260 sonic is awesome.
 

damngoodman999

damnbadman666
No buddy. It's DX10 based test :p
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-295,2107-4.html

Yup, higher resolution need more rams on gfx boards but I don't think HD4850 will offer any performance gain over GTS250 512MB version.

BTW, can you give me link so that I can be sure that HD4850 with 1GB ram performs better than GTS250.

But just saw a review on gigabyte GTX280 2GB version which does not offers any performance gain over it's 1GB version @ any resolution.

HD 4850 1GB never outperforms GTS 250 , i said if the resolution is above 1600 some memory resource usage helps in without lagging but we have to reduce some SHADOW & LIGHTING quality ,

think Y the reviews always use the sXGA & uXGA ways performing pixel depth resolution for game reviews , they only always show big FPS diffrence after one another guess i never saw a big FPS difference stepping up the resolution with my GTX 260 only 4 to 5 FPS downs with widescreen .

Only one guy here uses GTX 295 palit one , he uses 23" inch Samsung HD monitor new model ,1920 X 1080 - i tried maxing out in DX10 in vista ultimae SP1 all high no AA the AVG FPS shown is 21

reduced to high settings no AA AVG FPS is 38

& my card GTX 260 sonic DX 10 very high same settings above as - AVG FPS 12

High settings AVG FPS - 24

this is my review , i checked upon my self !

the reviewers ! difference , i stopped checking absolute reviews from the net but guru 3D is some what fine !

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/palit_gtx_260_sonic/6.htm

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Palit/GeForce_GTX_260_Sonic_216_SP/12.html

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/917/7/
 
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