Basic Guide Purchase a New System

[harryneopotter]

@ ironmanforever:

for 20 K

E7300 -- 5.5k
G31 S2L Gigabyte - 2.5
2GB Transcend 800 Mhz stick -- 1.3
corsair VX450 - - 4k
Palit 9600 GT -- 6 k

total 19.3 k.

But still u should mention ur usage pattern for more precise config.

 

[abhi_10_20]

Please help me out with this: i need a config, without monitor, without gpu, max budget = 20k.

In this, i need a good mobo, suggest any of the GeForce 9300 chipset mobos or having an equivalent good chipset from the raedon category.

 

[damngoodman999]

Is this a good motherboard for its price.. for AMD processors... i think it supports AM3 also...

Biostar TA790GX A2+

A little query to damngoodman999 about the 10% drops in FPS compared to E8500... What FPS range are you referring... like 60 FPS or closer to 30FPS which can seriously impact the gaming experience.. I have seen some benchmarks where 9950BE lags only by a few frames when compared to E8400 and that too around 60FPS at lower resolutions.. and at higher resolutions all CPUs are performing relatively same as graphics card is becoming the bottleneck..

Biostar TA790GX A2+ , but its not stable board i heard of it ,, not sure check the other reviews but the mobo cost around 5K only...

I agree with spidy333

but , AMD 9950 will better but i am comparing with AMD phenom 2 940 ... E 8400/8500 times out ,, when we say dual cores these 2 are best

comparing Quads within 10K ,, u can surely go for AMD 9950 ,, u r right @ the higher resolution with the GFX card like HD 4850 , 4870 , 9800GTX+ , gtx 260 etc will not make any difference between the CPU's ,, just enough to run the game the process is needed .

My opnion sure u can wait for AMD phenom 2 940 ,,, & then choose ur option ;;;; K

THEN WHICH GFX card u have decided to BUY ,, ????

 

[spidy333]

Biostar TA790GX A2+ , but its not stable board i heard of it ,, not sure check the other reviews but the mobo cost around 5K only...

I agree with spidy333

but , AMD 9950 will better but i am comparing with AMD phenom 2 940 ... E 8400/8500 times out ,, when we say dual cores these 2 are best

comparing Quads within 10K ,, u can surely go for AMD 9950 ,, u r right @ the higher resolution with the GFX card like HD 4850 , 4870 , 9800GTX+ , gtx 260 etc will not make any difference between the CPU's ,, just enough to run the game the process is needed .

My opnion sure u can wait for AMD phenom 2 940 ,,, & then choose ur option ;;;; K

THEN WHICH GFX card u have decided to BUY ,, ????

I am going with HD4850 as of now and later might upgrade it to a HD4850X2 or HD4870...

I've read some reviews about that motherboard and it surely seemed to be unstable.. on newegg only 58% voted it 5 and 22% voted it 4... I dont know whether this is good or not.. at 5k it seems vfm is high for this mobo..

And as 4850x2 and 4870x2 are there I dont think crossfire would help anything.. so can you suggest any mobo at the same price range with 790GX+SB750 (or similiar) without crossfire..

I will surely wait for phenom2's and then only make my final decision about the rig.. I will going to my local shop and see if I can get any second hand amd processor which i can return after few days once phenom2 gets released (I seriously doubt that they will have something like that and they are willing to).

 

[comp@ddict]

for how much can i get gskill 1Ghz 4Gb and transcend 800Mhz 4GB???

And finally suggest me a small cabinet upto 3kk that would be able to handle ATI Radeon 4850

And finally suggest me a small cabinet upto 3kk that would be able to handle ATI Radeon 4850

4GB Transcend for 2.4k best bet

CM Elite 334 @ 2k

 

[damngoodman999]

@spidy333


Me too searching for second hand to use another rig for my virus pen drives and other media devices

mobo & processor for 3K

 

[prateekchanda]

C2D 3.00GHz E8400 .........................................8800
Intel DP35DP Intel P35 Express Chip 1333 FSB ...........5050
Palit 9800GT 512MB DDR3 PCI .............................7450
Viewsonic VX2235wm-5 22" 2ms & 1000:1(typ) .........11800
Kingston DDR 2 5-5-5-15 800 Mhz 2x2GB Kit .............2200
Seagate Sata 2 500 GB (32 MB Buffer) ....................3500
Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop 3000 Key + Mouse ..2450
I-Ball Gamer Cabinet (With 400W SMPS) ................. 1600
CoolerMaster RS500-PCARA3 Extreme Power + 500W ...2800
Mercury 600VA ............................................... 2000


Creative Inspire 5.1 Spkrs M5200 ..........................3950
OR
Altec Lansing VS3251E 5.1 Spkrs ...........................3400
which one is better

Need Review and fine tuning pplz
I live in delhi and will be buying from nehruplace
also are there any other shops with good prices other than
Cost2cost, computer empire and RR sys

Basically building this for Gaming, Vmware and gynamips lots of it and movies
thanks in advance

 

[damngoodman999]

C2D 3.00GHz E8400 .........................................8800
Intel DP35DP Intel P35 Express Chip 1333 FSB ...........5050
Palit 9800GT 512MB DDR3 PCI .............................7450
Viewsonic VX2235wm-5 22" 2ms & 1000:1(typ) .........11800
Kingston DDR 2 5-5-5-15 800 Mhz 2x2GB Kit .............2200
Seagate Sata 2 500 GB (32 MB Buffer) ....................3500
Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop 3000 Key + Mouse ..2450
I-Ball Gamer Cabinet (With 400W SMPS) ................. 1600
CoolerMaster RS500-PCARA3 Extreme Power + 500W ...2800
Mercury 600VA ............................................... 2000


Creative Inspire 5.1 Spkrs M5200 ..........................3950
OR
Altec Lansing VS3251E 5.1 Spkrs ...........................3400
which one is better

Need Review and fine tuning pplz
I live in delhi and will be buying from nehruplace
also are there any other shops with good prices other than
Cost2cost, computer empire and RR sys

Basically building this for Gaming, Vmware and gynamips lots of it and movies
thanks in advance

PSU is heavy bottle neck !!!!!!!!!

u cannot overclock with INTEl board !!!!


Monitor is decent one !!!


Here is my config @ ur budget ,,& it can be more faster in games

AMD phenom 9550 Quad core ---> 6850
Asus mobo ----> 4000
DDR 2 ram 4 GB --->2200
Palit HD 4850 ---->9600
Seagate 500 GB --->3400
Viewsonic VX2235wm-5 22" 2ms & 1000:1(typ) .........11800
PSU ---->coolermaster 600 watts or corsair VX450


other things u listed is pretty good ,, go with it

If u choose intel rig means

Intel core2quad Q6600 --->9500
MSI p45 neo ---->6000

 

[Psychosocial]

PSU is heavy bottle neck !!!!!!!!!

u cannot overclock with INTEl board !!!!


Monitor is decent one !!!


Here is my config @ ur budget ,,& it can be more faster in games

AMD phenom 9550 Quad core ---> 6850
Asus mobo ----> 4000
DDR 2 ram 4 GB --->2200
Palit HD 4850 ---->9600
Seagate 500 GB --->3400
Viewsonic VX2235wm-5 22" 2ms & 1000:1(typ) .........11800
PSU ---->coolermaster 600 watts or corsair VX450


other things u listed is pretty good ,, go with it

If u choose intel rig means

Intel core2quad Q6600 --->9500
MSI p45 neo ---->6000

Is it so ? I never knew the 9550 was faster than E8400 in games . Thanks for enlightening me Mr.DAAMIT Fanboy .

@OP :-
Go for

E8400
MSI P45 Neo-F
2x2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz RAM
WD Caviar SE16 640GB HDD
Palit HD4850 512MB GDDR3
Dell 228WFP 22" LCD
Corsair VX450W

If this shoots out of budget, replace the E8400 with E7300 and it will still be faster than X4 9550.

 

[prateekchanda]

hi damngoodman999
i do need a intel rig
and the mobo should have RAID & eSata
can u suggest a mobo with these requirements
also as far as Ocing is concerned I'd avoid it till the thing goes smoothly (i wish it goes long)
will corsair VX450 be sufficient if i do RAID and add 1 extra HDD

Is it so ? I never knew the 9550 was faster than E8400 in games . Thanks for enlightening me Mr.DAAMIT Fanboy .

@OP :-
Go for

E8400
MSI P45 Neo-F
2x2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz RAM
WD Caviar SE16 640GB HDD
Palit HD4850 512MB GDDR3
Dell 228WFP 22" LCD
Corsair VX450W

If this shoots out of budget, replace the E8400 with E7300 and it will still be faster than X4 9550.

Dell 228WFP 22" LCD <-- Got everything I want but whats the Price here?

 

[spidy333]

hi damngoodman999
i do need a intel rig
and the mobo should have RAID & eSata
can u suggest a mobo with these requirements
also as far as Ocing is concerned I'd avoid it till the thing goes smoothly (i wish it goes long)
will corsair VX450 be sufficient if i do RAID and add 1 extra HDD




Dell 228WFP 22" LCD <-- Got everything I want but whats the Price here?

I am also in the same budget range but I'm neutral about AMD and Intel thing.. As I received suggestions from lot of people to wait for phenom2's.. which are supposed to lineup with Q9400 or above will give best bang for your bucks...

a Q9400 intel rig is costing around 54k and the AMD rig will cost 5k less if the expected pricing of phenom2 falls under 9-10k range. The choice is yours. I will get quotations from here.. but i dont think here i will get what i want.. so i am sure that i will visit nehru place probable next sunday. I hope phenom2's will be available by that time.

I forgot to add that for 54k I am getting a 19'' monitor and 2.1 speaker system only..

 

[IronManForever]

Can anyone help building a rig for me? Budget 20k.
I need Proccy, Mobo, RAM, GFx Card, PSU.

@ ironmanforever:

for 20 K

E7300 -- 5.5k
G31 S2L Gigabyte - 2.5
2GB Transcend 800 Mhz stick -- 1.3
corsair VX450 - - 4k
Palit 9600 GT -- 6 k

total 19.3 k.

But still u should mention ur usage pattern for more precise config.

Well, my needs surpass my budget! So I need something thats good at everything.
- Virtualisation (So I'll need 2x2GB RAM)
- Ripping/Encoding Movies
- Casual Gaming ( My Monitor is gonna be Full HD)

I can wait if prices are to fall, heard after 15 Jan we'll see some price cuts.
RAM is already hell cheap, Transcend 2GB 800Mhz stick can be bought for 1k or so.

I can extend my budget to 25,000. But apart Proccy, Mobo, RAM, GFx Card, PSU; I'll also need a Cabinet and 2.1 Speakers.

 

[harryneopotter]

@ironman: For 25 k and ur needs ... i will suggest u AMD rig (if u dont have any problem from AMD )

Because for Virtualisation, AMD quads are better than Intel E series Core 2 duos. And for Encoding and Ripping, more cores are always better. So here it goes...

AMD X4 9550 -- 6850
Asus M2N VM DVI -- 3100
2 x2 GB 800 Mhz -- 2000
Corsair VX450/ CM 500 -- 4k / 3k
Zebronics Bijli Cabby -- 1.1k
Altec Lansing 2.1 Bx sumthing -- 1.2k
9600 GT Palit -- 6k

Total 24250 Rs .... keeping room for unexptected prise rise (if any), or if budget allows than any better cabby from Zebby.

For ur usage, this is the best VFM config.

 

[damngoodman999]

Is it so ? I never knew the 9550 was faster than E8400 in games . Thanks for enlightening me Mr.DAAMIT Fanboy .

@OP :-
Go for

E8400
MSI P45 Neo-F
2x2GB Transcend DDR2 800MHz RAM
WD Caviar SE16 640GB HDD
Palit HD4850 512MB GDDR3
Dell 228WFP 22" LCD
Corsair VX450W

If this shoots out of budget, replace the E8400 with E7300 and it will still be faster than X4 9550.

I knew that E8400 is faster than AMD 9550 ,

BUT i dont suggest DUAL CORES now , ask every one in GTA-4 which is faster

E8400 is faster in games which is everyone know , but the fact is i am giving it for future proof , though AMD phenom 2 940 is AM2+ socket remember MR.Psycho

I think u got the previews about AMD phenom 2 940/920 , no Dual cores can stand with it !!!

hi damngoodman999
i do need a intel rig
and the mobo should have RAID & eSata
can u suggest a mobo with these requirements
also as far as Ocing is concerned I'd avoid it till the thing goes smoothly (i wish it goes long)
will corsair VX450 be sufficient if i do RAID and add 1 extra HDD




Dell 228WFP 22" LCD <-- Got everything I want but whats the Price here?

Sorry if i add AMD rig cause ,, i am really think about phenom 2

i have listed the intel rig down , by the way u can even go for Q6600 but that is cost 9k

Wait for a week 9th AMD phenom 2 is launching ,, check the reviews severely beats every core2Duos & Quads in intel

Especially the phenom 2 940 is good bench marked --> but dont compare with corei7

AMD phenom 2 940 cost below 12K

orelse u can go for phenom 2 920 below 10K

Then DELL 228WFP is good instead of that go for DELL 2208WFP which is much better in resolution

MSi P45 raid ??? i dont know,, the ASUS boards have software raid support

 

[QuickSilver]

guys which mobo is better
P5N OR P5Q? and which would be cheaper?

 

[damngoodman999]

guys which mobo is better
P5N OR P5Q? and which would be cheaper?

P5Q- pro my opinion ,, it has 8 phase power system & good OCing capabilities too

i surely dont know about P5N???


P5Q-pro =>8900/-

 

[Psychosocial]

I knew that E8400 is faster than AMD 9550 ,

BUT i dont suggest DUAL CORES now , ask every one in GTA-4 which is faster

E8400 is faster in games which is everyone know , but the fact is i am giving it for future proof , though AMD phenom 2 940 is AM2+ socket remember MR.Psycho

I think u got the previews about AMD phenom 2 940/920 , no Dual cores can stand with it !!!




Sorry if i add AMD rig cause ,, i am really think about phenom 2

i have listed the intel rig down , by the way u can even go for Q6600 but that is cost 9k

Wait for a week 9th AMD phenom 2 is launching ,, check the reviews severely beats every core2Duos & Quads in intel

Especially the phenom 2 940 is good bench marked --> but dont compare with corei7

AMD phenom 2 940 cost below 12K

orelse u can go for phenom 2 920 below 10K

Then DELL 228WFP is good instead of that go for DELL 2208WFP which is much better in resolution

MSi P45 raid ??? i dont know,, the ASUS boards have software raid support

I wasnt comparing the Phenom 2... only the E8400 and 9550. And there are only few games right now which supports Quad Cores and it will be so for a few months. And remember, the 'Previews' can say anything but its the reviews which really count. AMD or Intel or NVIDIA, every company brags about their product as much as they can. Anyways, I dont care what you suggest to other people bcoz its not me who is losing money. So lets stay in peace and be friendly. BTW, thanks for complementing me .

 

[spidy333]

Will the CM690 cabby from coolermaster with its default PSU can power HD4850 and probably a phenom2 or phenom 9950be.. and if so what about overclocking..

Which one is better among these two psu's.. zebronics pro 500w or coolermaster extreme 600w..

 

[damngoodman999]

Phenom 2 is 45nm & OCing processor ,, final touch in OCing is 6.3 on the phenom2 with LN2

i ran the phenom 9550 with the 400watts psu ,, the main thing is GFX card should have best PSU .

 

[janitha]

Will the CM690 cabby from coolermaster with its default PSU can power HD4850 and probably a phenom2 or phenom 9950be.. and if so what about overclocking..

Which one is better among these two psu's.. zebronics pro 500w or coolermaster extreme 600w..

CM690 doesn't include a PSU.