Basic Guide Purchase a New System

[Choto Cheeta]

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What parts are you upgrading please post what exact do you need ?? i mean a full CPU, (Procy + RAM + grfx + hdd + dvd rw + cabi) or just few parts or the full system ??

 

[coolsunny]

which Intel boards have good onboard grafix specially for Intel E2140,as equivalent to amd's Geforce 6150.

@Choto Cheeta u r doing great job here..i appreciate ur effort.if u provide AMD's L2 cache & speed in ur first page it'll be more nice.

 

[Choto Cheeta]

XFX 650i ultra will support and work great with E2140 how ever 650i wont come with onboard grfx...

i feel the x3100 GMA thats Intel G33 Chipset based boards will match 6150 or AMD 690G...

So I would suggest P5K-VM @ Rs. 7500/- + TAX kolkata

 

[jackal_79]

i want to change my CPU, Mobo, graphics card, RAM and power supply.
Please give me some inputs.If possible give me a AMD based and Intel based combination.I will use it mainly for gaming.i would like a system which can play most of the games reasonably well.

 

[Choto Cheeta]

@coolsunny

Thnx for the comment and Thnx for the suggestion my frnd...

Regarding AMD L2 size, I have already posted this link *www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9485_13041^13076,00.html at the 1st page.. which is for AMD Processor number details page..

i want to change my CPU, Mobo, graphics card, RAM and power supply.
Please give me some inputs.If possible give me a AMD based and Intel based combination.I will use it mainly for gaming.i would like a system which can play most of the games reasonably well.

Target 17k !!! purpose mainlly gaming... !!! bellow is the one I would bet on for that range and purpose... also, wait for others to comment too

AMD X2 4000+ (1MB L2) @ Rs. 3000/- + TAX
MSI K9AGM2 @ Rs. 2450/- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II 667 MHz (2x1) @ Rs. 3650/- + TAX
XFX 8600 GT GDDR-III 256MB @ Rs. 6700/- + TAX
PowerSafe / Sebronics / ColorSit 500 Watts @ Rs. 1500/- + TAX

TAX @ 4% (VAT) Rs. 692/-

Total Rs. 17992/-

Intel config would be costly as see Intel now do Have a great low budget processor to match AMD 4000, thats Dual Core E2140 @ Rs. 2800/- + TAX but unfortunatelly no good mobo is available for budget system on intel platform, even with E2140 or a Quad Core, the lowest is the XFX 650i Ulta @ Rs. 4800/- + TAX, so u can think of Intel if you increase the budget to 20k, which is not needed, AMD will just work fine for ur need

 

[dOm1naTOr]

One of my friend wants a system for 15k without monitor, ups, k/b nd mouse.
SO ive decided the following config: can u suggest if its gud for da price:
AMD 4000+: 3k
MSI K9AGM2: 2.5k
2*512 DDR2 trns: 2k
250GB Seagate: 2.6k
cabby ZEb lowest : 1.1k
LG DVDRW: 1.3k
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total 12.5k

He can max extend his budget for some 1.5~2k
He wants a gcard too for max 4.5k
which is da best card for 2.5k?
whats the price of X1600 pro, 7600GS, 7300GT, 8500GT etc?
He has a 15" monitor and wud only play @1024*768 max, but likes to play at high settings at dat resolution. So which card is best performing at low resolution?

 

[rahuleyes]

@ choto cheeta

Thanks for your great support. hope you remember me.
Here is one problem.

XFX boards are not available here. xfx650i ultra is not available. Even xfx 8400gs grfx card costs 3400/-
E6750 8500/-
UPS APC 2500 /-

My dealer is forcing me for Intel DG33BU. coz there is no other cheap choice. But i dont want to go with it as u said before.

Rest config prices are ok as u written.

Now i planned to go with better motherboard. may be asus will be great for me, what do you say brother !!!

I will add grfx card later. You didnt reply my question before. Is there any major difference in LCD performance through DVI out and analog out ?
Difference is minor and unnoticable ?

Pls suggest me some Asus board with P35 chipset and cheaper which fullfill my all requirements.
I really dont need wi fi
I am not a over clocker
I dont play games. Counter strike type of games once in a year.

Am a stock broker if you remember so i need to open many programs at a same time.




Hope you remember my post before. A big post which makes you bored hahahaha. Am very much happy that i asked a question to the right guy. Yes you said it right. All the people here are fully supporting. But you are the perfect replier. The method of writing is extremely superb. I have seen many here praising you. You deserve it.

Now pls pls suggest me something in ASUS with P35 chipset. If still you think that 650i and 680i are better than P35 then i think ASUS P5N-E-SLI will be the best. Still need your final stamp.

Thanks a lot

Rahul.

 

[Choto Cheeta]

@rahuleyes

thnx for the comments...

anyway on topic...

Instade of XFX 650i Ultra + XFX 8400 GS, think for ASUS P5K-VM Rs. 7500/- + TAX Kolkata... P5N-E SLi (Rs. 7000/- + TAX) is a great board board then again it will not come with onboard grfx, so minimum you have to add a 8400 GS again, which is insanelly costly as I see at ur place so i think it will put strain on ur budget... !!!

ASUS P5K-VM will come with G33 (GMA x3100) good for now as u later plan to add a card...

One suggestion is, dont stick to one dealer, do also check out others in ur area... XFX boards and 8400 GS is selling like hot cake, prices are really low for them, so chances are iether ur vendor doesnt have stock, or some reason he doesnt want to to stock...

Check out here for XFX Products... its very simple, if you have ASUS, you must have XFX too, as they are marketed by same company, in ur case,

AHMEDABAD
Rashi Peripherals Pvt Ltd.
A2, II Floor, Oxford Tower,
Gurukul Rd,
Ahmedabad - 380 052.

Tel No.: +91 - 079 - 27430080/27470678
Fax No.: +91 - 079 - 27122757 / 27430098
Email : ahmedabad@rptechindia.com

Also, try and posting here to see if any one from ur place can give u some info on shops where u would get better deals...

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8673

Is there any major difference in LCD performance through DVI out and analog out ?

There is, but right now no need to pull ur hair out for thinking DVI interface... vx1932wm will come with both interface, so, if you opt for ASUS P5K-VM, *www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=1&model=1690&l1=3&l2=11&l3=542&l4=0 to start with u may stay on analog as no DVI is available on it...

now By chance u go to another vendor and find XFX deals, then with 8400 GS u can run at DVI interface..

@aravind_n20

1st of all opt for 1 GB DDR-II singke stick, rather than (512x2)... now days, 2 GB u should eye for if not tother but upgrade when ever possible...

for Rs. 2.5k, only one card I would say fits in is XFX 8400 GS, now days Rs, 2550/- + TAX !!!! u cant play at 1024x786 for FEAR atleast... with mid settings its 800x600 which gives the best FPS, which 1024, FPS will drop a lot...

Now its quite foolsih to go for any thing low to 8600 GT now days if one plans gaming... Which Rs. 6700/- + TAX... and also I dont recomend 8400 GS for a person who will have onboard AMD 690v... !!! so either buy 8600 or avobe or for now, stay onboard till u can increase the budget to buy 8600 or above...

recent at Kolkata, bought few LG DVD RW... all are now dead, will have to take them for service... cant say what event wront, but none of them are reading or writting any more then again bought Lite-on too, which has another problem... most of the time IT cant read DVDs burnt using its own where those burnt DVDs can be read on any other drives apart from Lite-on....

so all these cheaper models are giving a lot of problem.. and unfortunatelly no other option either

 

[dOm1naTOr]

ok thnx chottu,
I opted for LG DVDRW coz its damn cheap and can be bought for as less as 1.2k.
But Liteon is at 1.7k and Sony is at 1.5k. Is Sony worth it?
My 1.3 yr old Sony DVDRW has gone dead yesterday.

He can't think of a later upgrade, not atleast in 1~1.5yr. So he'll have to go card a card. Is 7600GS worth it? and whats da exact price?

 

[The_Devil_Himself]

Hey choto cheeta great work dude.
I am upgrading my system.My budget 13-14k
what i am upgrading:-
(1.)2gb RAM ddr2@667mhz
(2.)graphic card(u suggest),i am thinking of XFX8600GT fatal1ty edition
(3.)a 250GB hard disk
(4.)a PSU-I have to cos my current one is not good enough.
(5.)1-2 cooling fans-big ones with low speeds

My current system is:
C2D processor e6300@1.86ghz
intel 946ghiz motherboard
512mb ddr2 RAm
80 gb hard disk



please suggest the make and company of RAM,graphic card,a good enough PSU,and fans with their prices.

 

[Pathik]

^^
Get transcend 2*1 gb ddr2 667 mhz ram @ 3.6k..
Get a xfx 8600 gt 256mb gddr3 at 6.5k and OC it to a 8600gts
Get a 250gb seagate sata 2 16mb buffer hdd @ 2.8k
and get a zebronics platinum 500w @ arnd 1.8k..
~ 14.7k..

 

[The_Devil_Himself]

Thanks pathik.But oc'ing a card voids its warranty and I won't be able to buy a new card if something goes wrong.And I think this faltal1ty edition is even better than 8600gts.
I was thinking of corsair RAM-it will be a little costly but I guess it's better than transcend or kingston.

BTW I am getting simple 8600gt@5.5k and fatal1ty at 7k,so how is the deal?

 

[Choto Cheeta]

@aravind_n20

Take a good look at the pricing *www.theitwares.com/gfxcards/gfxcards.htm ...

4.5 k is really would waste of money... wait few months to increase it to 7k !!! as with TAX 8600 GT would cost u around 7k.... or rather right now increase the budget for 2.5k more to get 8600 GT, all bellow cards like 7600 GS or bellow really would bad buy...

@The_Devil_Himself

thnx for the comment...

dont mind for my negative comment... rather than buy high end rams, think of XFX 650i Ultra Rs. 4800/- + TAX... the Intel 945 will not going to give u the performance you are thinking of... simple I fear will bottle neck

 

[The_Devil_Himself]

ARRE BOSE NO CHANCE OF A MOBO UPGRADE RIGHT NOW.Only the components I stated in my earlier post.And I don't think Intel 945 is such a bad mobo as I don't OC my processor.

Dude money is always scarce for students so no new mobo for atleast a year or so.

And yes www.theitwares.com is not working right now.(error 404)

 

[Choto Cheeta]

BTW I am getting simple 8600gt@5.5k and fatal1ty at 7k,so how is the deal?

Good deal... go for the 5.5 GT one if its XFX then...

and my frnd i dont think the Motherboard supports 3gbps SATA-II drives... even if you buy one I think either by default it would work as 1.5gbps or u have to set the jumpers to force it to work as 1.5gbps...

I didnt see any motherboard with the number u said... please do mention the exact model no...

 

[The_Devil_Himself]

Intel® Desktop Board D946GZIS.Sorry for typo in the first post.look at *www.intel.com/design/motherbd/is/is_available.htm

Yes 5.5k for XFX 8600GT 256MB.But I am thinking of fatal1ty as I don't want to buy a simple 8600GT and then overclocking it as it will void the warranty.

Isn't SATA II reverse compatible?I am sure it is and there is no price difference between sata 1 and sata 2 so buying a stat 2 HD will be a waser option.

 

[Choto Cheeta]

Not sure, but i dont think u would be able to utilize the extra bandwidth of these card with Intel 946 boards... and it seems that ur mentiooned board doesnt come with SATA-II 3gbps support...

 

[The_Devil_Himself]

Not sure, but i dont think u would be able to utilize the extra bandwidth of these card with Intel 946 boards

Which cards buddy?

.. and it seems that ur mentiooned board doesnt come with SATA-II 3gbps support...

SATA 1 or SATA 2 doesn't matter much to me.BTW sata 2 is reverse compatible and in fact all the sata's(like sata 3 or sata 4) will be reverse compatible.SOURCE:WIKIPEDIA *en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA.

But buddy one thing is for sure I won't be able to buy a new motherboard.My current one is just 10 months old and it costed me a lot 10 months back.Maybe in next 8 months or so but not now.

 

[Choto Cheeta]

@The_Devil_Himself

By these card I ment 8600 GTS Fatality one !!! u would spend extra 2k over GT but i fear would be bad investment...

and I got ur point, that Mobo upgrade not possible, thats why I tried to explained that purchasing highest end stuff with 946 wont be good idea... so, stick Value rams, no need for high end Crosiar ones or Fatality.. as the Chipset may not be able to utilize their higher bandwdith...

and for SATA-II, I already said,

and my frnd i dont think the Motherboard supports 3gbps SATA-II drives... even if you buy one I think either by default it would work as 1.5gbps or u have to set the jumpers to force it to work as 1.5gbps...

So SATA-II 250 GB will work, as 1.5 Gbps, i am not sure for ur exact board but while I saw in few other Intel 946 board what few Detected the SATA-II drives are by default worked in 1.5gbps, but for few boards we had to set the jumpers in the back of the HDD to force it to 1.5 gbps... !!!

So i just expressed my concirn.. as for ur config, I stand by what pathiks suggested that would be the best buy and value for money too as u are really getting some cheap deal on 8600 GT

 

[The_Devil_Himself]

Ok,got your point.Just two more questions.
(1.)I was thinking of buying corsair value ram they will cost around 4k for 2x1gb or just 400-500 more than transcend or kingston.
(2.)IF I buy 8600gt i will have to oc it and that will void it's warranty thats why I am thinking of buying a 8600gt fatal1ty as it is factory overclocked to max. and is passively cooled.I want the 3 year warranty XFX gives as I know sooner or later I will burn/damage my card.


as far as PSU is concerned I will buy zebronics platinum 500w as suggested by pathiks.