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elator

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hmmmm
i have a gcard....oced 6200.....
the card vendors claim tat 8600gt will work wit a 20 pin...
but i jus wanted to b sure....
 

desai_amogh

In the zone
can any one suggest me a powerful configuration at 12000 bucks
!!!! i already have a monitor & im not a gamer !!!!

kind of things ill do is video decoding & stuff...
im just looking for a good mobo & proccy + good cabinate with power supply + 160/250 gb hard disk.
onboard grafix & sound works for me.
 
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Choto Cheeta

Choto Cheeta

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AMD X2 3600+ (1 MB) Rs. 2700/- + TAX
MSI K9AGM2 Rs. 2450/- + TAX (AMD 690V with ATi x1200)
2x1 (2 GB) DDR-II 667 MHz Rs. 3800/- + TAX
160 GB SATA-II Rs. 2000/- + TAX
Any Large Cabi with Zebronics 500 / ColorSit 500 watts SMPS Rs. 2000/-

Total 13648 Incl 4% VAT...

I suggest stick with ur old Cabinet but buy the 450 Watts or push to 500 Watts SMPS if ur budget permitts... in that way this can be fit in Rs. 12k :) u may also compromise a GB or RAM by opting for 1 GB single stick, but its recomended that u go for the 2 GB option for todays ram hungry apps and becuase ur onboard will eat up some amount of RAM !!!
 

desai_amogh

In the zone
cool man tht helps.. im waiting for my bonus this month... i dint know much abt current hardware prices .. but th makes a gr8 config for me !!
way to go cheeta !!!!
 

elator

Broken In
hey.....
my mobo supports both ddr 333 and 400....
now i have 512mb of 333....and i dont wanna throw it off....
will adding a new ddr400 cause any prob???
thanks in advance....
 

spikygv

Wise Old Owl
nope. but it will run in single channel mode . its better to get a identical ram at 333 mhz and run in dual channel mode.
 

rahuleyes

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Dear Big Brother Choto Cheeta pls pls pls reply me as my big brother. Desperately need your suggestion. I know the query i wrote here is very long. sorry for that but there are lots of question i want to clear out and i found only one person replying in such a way over internet. Thanks.



I am seeking for some perfect answer since one month. Searched and posted my problem everwhere and no one is going to reply. So am here and will be very very much happy if i will get reply.
I am ready with my money to buy a new computer.
My config is :
Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 ( this is best i think so this is final )
250 Gb Hd ( which one pls suggest )
Mother board ( This thing is what am very much confused. )
Viewsonic 19″ wide screen LCD moniter VX1932wm
or
LG Electronics L194WT 19” Widescreen LCD

( i have to sit around 10 hours a day on computer. some people are saying that viewsonic is not good at service as they have very less service centre in india. i dont know which one gives me the better quality and value for money, here i have one stupid question. Can i see my internet explorer or my computer window in whole screen? or it will just show me in half of the screen, as it is wide screen, i never used wide screen, i hope resolution doesnt matters my current experience)


DDR2 Ram 1 gb ( dont know which one to buy, some are suggesting kingston 667 mhz and some are suggesting transcend 667mhz.. totaly confused, even am ready for 800mhz, suggest me the best )
Cabinet ( really no idea which one )
SMPS ( all my friends are buying this with cabinet itself, but i found that this is quite important to decide. pls suggest some best )

UPS ( any cheap and best )
There is a lot of power fluctuation here. Do i need a stabilizer ? or ups and smps is enough ?
Keyboard and mouse Microtech. (i think this is cheap and best .. right ?)
Thats it.
I dont want speakers or optical drives, i already have samsung cd rom and sony dvd writer in my old pc, i will shift it in my new one.



Some one told me that my motherboard must have DIV output for my new LCD moniter.
Am really very much confused about motherboard. I really dont know about p33 or p35 or G33 chipsets. I dont know G33 or P35 which is best performing chipset for my processor. I searched over net and found intel DG33BU. I dont how is it. Some are suggesting Asus P5K Deluxe, but thats very expensive around 14000. But if there is something which i must buy then am ready to go with it. Ideally my budget for motherboard as per my above config is 7k-8k maximum. I am not a overclocker, even i dont know what is it.

Am a simple man with little knowledge. I will buy whatever u suggest.
If you feel to change any of the above config then pls suggest. My budget is around 35-40k for computer. I am a simple user, basically a stock trader so i need to open many programs at a same time. Right now am using 512mb in my old pc and everything is fine.. but i need to upgrade. Am not a big fan of games. I hardly play those counter strike type games once in a year. But i want to add some good graphics card later. It will be fine if i will get the future proof too by my computer.

Am living in ahmedabad and i hope everything is available here.



Sorry again for the long message. And thanks in advance for your reply. I will buy only once thats why am asking so much. Pls dont mind. I just want to buy a best system in my price range, value for money.




Thanks again. Waiting for your reply choto cheeta bhaiya.
Rahul.
 
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entrana

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^^first of all delete ur double post
besides wats ur budget dude
you can get xfx 650i ultra, or asus p5ne sli its on the cheap side which is less than 7.5k
hdd u cud go for a 7200rpm ones, i have samsung though
u cud try the samsung 19"widescreen or dell
get ddr2 800mhz of transcend its the cheapest or kingston 800mhz which is 2800 and transcend is 2300
u cud get zebronics antibiotic cabinet
keyboard and mouse doesent really matter that much u cud get to your liking
also get a good graphics card if u wanna play games, or just get a low end 8400gt or 8500gt from xfx if ur not interested in gaming
smps shud be coolermaster 600watts at least
well thats all
 
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Choto Cheeta

Choto Cheeta

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@rahuleyes

welcome to the forum.....

Am a simple man with little knowledge. I will buy whatever u suggest.

Who is not :lol:, we are all everyday man like you... !!! so, just take suggestion and then anylise it rather going for it blindly...

Its not me only, best suggestion may come from any other user too :D so loook for their suggestion tooo...

My budget is around 35-40k for computer. I am a simple user, basically a stock trader so i need to open many programs at a same time.

I would try to suggest you one config in basis of these requrements... :)

Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 ( this is best i think so this is final )

So be it.. stick with it.. :)

250 Gb Hd ( which one pls suggest )

More or less brands are allmost same these days like Segate / WD / Hitachi... when buying just buy one which has a near by service center in your city, as all will come with around 5 years or warrenty...

about model, make sure you by one 7200.10 RPM one with 16 MB Buffer !!!

Viewsonic 19″ wide screen LCD moniter VX1932wm
or
LG Electronics L194WT 19” Widescreen LCD

I see you are a stock brocker, so you are must be a grown up man, so, tell me who doesnt have problem ?? you hear View Sonic has issue with Service... even in this forum search and you would fine every single brand has had issue with service... but thank fully we have consumer courts... :D so buy with a proper bill and you are safe..

DDR2 Ram 1 gb ( dont know which one to buy, some are suggesting kingston 667 mhz and some are suggesting transcend 667mhz.. totaly confused, even am ready for 800mhz, suggest me the best )

With the Value rams we use, really there is not much Performance difference and also quite frankly there is not a price differnce either....

Cabinet ( really no idea which one )
SMPS ( all my friends are buying this with cabinet itself, but i found that this is quite important to decide. pls suggest some best )

When buying cabinet, make sure you buy a Large one with good ventilation... you may think of Branded ones like Zebronics or i-Ball, which looks good and comes with pre-installed FANs but personally I prefer non branded one, as may not as pretty as those costly ones, but really cheap (a good large well ventilated cabi with extra cabinet fan slots 2 in back 2 in side lead would cost 700 or 800 without spms) also a cabinet fan would cost Rs. 25/- :lol:... but buy as many fan slot u have...

for SPMS... for your need right now, a true 500 watts is enough... in Kolkata I buy ColorSit, I have seen it pretty good... zebronics also may be close the pricing, actually ColorSit 500 watts with a Large Cabi costs me Rs. 2200 :D...

UPS ( any cheap and best )
There is a lot of power fluctuation here. Do i need a stabilizer ? or ups and smps is enough ?

Well budget is the concern... over all you may exit one budget limit so, try with local Rs. 1400/ ones :| as if really its lot of flactuation, i would say APC 650 VA or even 500 VA Rs. 2400/- or Rs. 2100 respectivlly

Keyboard and mouse Microtech. (i think this is cheap and best .. right ?)

Coool... yeah, no problem, you may go for those within Rs. 300 :lol: but you may also try Microsoft Desktop Pro 700, combo would cost u, Rs. 700

Some one told me that my motherboard must have DIV output for my new LCD moniter.
Am really very much confused about motherboard. I really dont know about p33 or p35 or G33 chipsets. I dont know G33 or P35 which is best performing chipset for my processor

As u would add a GRFX card later on so try not to go with a Onboard right now, asbest onboard u would get is G33 (GMA x3100) which would be ASUS P5K-VM around Rs. 7500/- + TAX :) where as Combo or XFX 650i ultra Rs. 5000/- + TAX (no onboard video) with XFX 8400 GS Rs. 2600/- + TAX (will have DVI out) would be better choise, as later on just pop the 8400 out and plug in a Better Card...

remember all these bellow 11k boards up to 680i SLi would come with PCI-E 1.1 so even they are very very good now, but after a year or more, when 9xxx ndivia ones (grfx Card) comes out, may be they would come woth PCI-E 2.0 Platform... they will not be compatible with any of these boards... :( how ever with 9xxx in market cards like 8800 GTS 320 MB will hit all time low in price and u can be happy with them too :)

So for Budget around 40k this is a full config I would say good for u...

E6750 @ Rs. 7900/- + TAX
XFX 650i ultra @ Rs. 5000/- + TAX
(2x1) 2 GB DDR-II 800 MHz Kingstone or Transcend @ Rs. 4400/- + TAX
XFX 8400 GS @ Rs. 2600/- + TAX
250 GB Segate / WD / Hitachi - SATA-II 16MB Buffer @ Rs. 2600/- + TAX
Any Large Cabinet with good Ventilation + Zebronics or ColorSit or Power Safe 500 Watts @ Rs. 2200/- + TAX
DVD RW Lite-on 20x @ Rs. 1300/- + TAX
Floppy Drive @ Rs. 200/- + TAX
View Sonic vx1932wm @ Rs. 10050/- + TAX
APC 500 VA @ Rs. 2100/- + TAX
Microsoft Desktop 700 @ Rs. 700/- + TAX
Creative 2.1 @ Rs. 1000/- + TAX


TAX (@ 4% Kolkata ) Rs. 1602

Total Rs, 41,652 all prices are from Kolkata...

I have few concirn, like personally i prefer P5N-E SLi (which is Rs. 7000/- + TAX) over XFX 650i, but its the budget which I had to keep in mind to compile a config for u as suggestion :) also with any boards u may be need to do a BIOS update accomodate FSB 1333 Processors.... so floppy is needed :lol:...


Am living in ahmedabad and i hope everything is available here.

Things will be there, you just have to pay visit to more than one shop to bargain... i gave one idea how much is what in Kolkata, at max they are suppose to be a 2% difference in prices, not more than that.. :)
 
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spikygv

Wise Old Owl
i think new xfx boards with new BIOS is out. A guy in another forum was running e6550 @ 1333mhz on xfx 650i whithout BIOS update and normal temps.. .even CPU-Z showed it as 1333mhz he said.
 

rahuleyes

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Thanks a lot for your reply choto cheeta.
Now the configuration is ready with a few questions.

Is there any difference (performance wise and compatible with e6750 ) in G33/P35/nforce 650i/nforce 680i chipset ?
Which one is best ?

G33 and P35 chipset based motherboards needs a bios update for 1333mhz cpu ??????

Intel DG33BU has GMA x3100 ... does it have div output ? what do you say about this board as per my requirements ?

Is there any major difference (performance wise) between div output or analog output ?


I dont want speakers or Cd drives, i already have samsung cd rom and sony dvd writer in my old pc, i will shift it in my new one.

So here is the final config Suggested by you.

E6750 @ Rs. 7900/- + TAX ( final and done)
Let me select some best motherboard as am decreasing some components.
1 GB DDR-II 800 MHz Kingstone or Transcend @ Rs. 2200/- + TAX ( i will add 1 gb one month later)
XFX 8400 GS @ Rs. 2600/- + TAX
250 GB Segate / WD / Hitachi - SATA-II 16MB Buffer @ Rs. 2600/- + TAX ( final and done)
Any Large Cabinet with good Ventilation + Zebronics or ColorSit or Power Safe 500 Watts @ Rs. 2200/- + TAX ( final and done )
Floppy Drive @ Rs. 200/- + TAX
View Sonic vx1932wm @ Rs. 10050/- + TAX ( final and done )
APC 650 VA @ Rs. 2400/- + TAX ( final and done )
Microsoft Desktop 700 @ Rs. 700/- + TAX ( final and done )

Total 30850/-
I can to till 40,000 so now i have more 10 thousand left in my hands just for motherboard or u can say i have 12600 left in my hand for motherboard + graphics card.

Now i want only the motherboard which gives best performance with e6750 with all the features and future proof. suggest me something pls.


Thanks again
Rahul.
 
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Choto Cheeta

Choto Cheeta

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@rahuleyes

Dont opt for Intel Motherboards... they are not worth they money.. 12k for Motherboard and grfx card, I would say,

XFX 650i ultra @ Rs. 4800/- + TAX

Card,

XFX 8600 GT GDDR-III 256 MB @ Rs. 6700/- + TAX

:D

Is there any difference (performance wise and compatible with e6750 ) in G33/P35/nforce 650i/nforce 680i chipset ?
Which one is best ?

Its close Between 680i SLi and P35 !!! i like 680i SLi over P35, how ever things will change once we get the X38 Chipset
 

Radhesh Bhoot

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Elator....i don't think it will cause a problem...but both of ur ram will run on 333 only....

Hello Friends,
My Cousin need the best possible Assembled Gaming PC within 25000/.

He wants the following in it....
Min 17" CRT or LCD .
1GB RAM DDR2
DVD Writer
PCIe graphics card to play games @ medium to low resolution,especially latest games.

Rest u can adjust in the config...
He wants aleast to be 1 Year futureproof....
If possible tell me both AMD n Intel based rigs.

Can u suggest me the configurations...
If possible post the prices of Mumbai
 
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Choto Cheeta

Choto Cheeta

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AMD X2 4000+ (1MB L2) @ Rs. 3200/- + TAX
MSI K9AGM2 @ Rs. 2450/- + TAX
2 GB DDR-II 667 MHz Transcend @ Rs. 3450/- + TAX
160 GB SATA-II @ Rs. 2000/- + TAX
XFX 8400 GS @ Rs. 2600/- + TAX
Lite-on DVD RW @ Rs. 1300/- + TAX
Any Large Well Ventilated local brand Cabinet with 500 watts Zebronics or ColorSit (Kolkata) SMPS @ Rs. 2000/- + TAX
Creative 2.1 @ Rs. 1000/- + TAX
LG 17" CRT @ Rs. 4100/- + TAX
UPS Local Brand @ Rs. 1400/- + TAX
Microsoft Desktop Pro 700 Combo @ Rs. 700/- + TAX




TAX @ 4% => 968

Total Rs. 25180/-

Few things to keep in mind, some places in India dealers are not stocking X2 3600 instade they are pushing X2 4000 which is Rs. 3200/- + TAX Kolkata... so try to get AMD X2 3600+ which is Rs. 2700/- + TAX kolkata, and there is really not much difference between 4000 and 3600 in performance... but 3600 will save u some money...

Also one may buy 1 GB now, but its recomended that one should have 2 GB so make sure later on you add the second 1 GB Stick, if now u are buying 1 GB RAM....

Also 8400 GS really is not a card to be in a Gaming system ... so i suggest right now Run on onboard ATi X1200 of AMD 690v chipset of the Motherboard... later on try to buy a XFX 8600 GT 256MB :D
 

sabret00the

Youngling
@ Choto Cheeta :- bought S!D's (Vicky) computer today from Supreme Technologies and bought the Cabinet & PSU from Jai Mahavira...I wouldnt discuss the details of the configuration today and let Vicky do the honours...instead I'll post something you wanted me to do...

Prices of All Viewsonic TFT Lcd monitors (in Kolkata)

17" VA 1703WB - 7800
17" VA 1703B - 7900

19" VA 1903WM - 8700
19" VA 1912WB - 8700
19" VA 1912WM - 8700
19" VG 1930WM - 9800
19" VX 1932WM - 10300 (we bought this one today)

20" VG 2021M - 13500

22" VX 2235WM - 17000
22" VX 2245WM - 18000

(for more details please contact Mr.Manish @ 9831844751)
 
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Choto Cheeta

Choto Cheeta

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^^^

Thnx a lot brother :D for the infomration regarding the TFTs :D, also Bro, how many and what View Sonic models do they have right now in Display ??
 

sabret00the

Youngling
I guess they have mostly the basic and popular models...but I guess Manish can get you any of the above monitor in 2 day's lead time...he got the VX1932WM by flight for us in 1 day's time...
 
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