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[shantanu]

Re: Help me with PC Configuration

@vineet : try to search before posting... creating new threads is easy, but you can contribute a lil bit by searching on topic.. you are a old member , with more then 1.6 years in this forum.

threads merged

 

[Choto Cheeta]

Re: Help me with PC Configuration

I want to but a new PC mainly for using high end softwares such as 3ds MAX, Maya etc. My budget is around 30-35K & I want atleast 4GB of RAM & 250 GB HDD. Please help me ??

Thank You

Do you need a full config incl Monitor SKP and UPS of just the CPU (Procy + Mobo + RAM + GRFX + HDD + etc) ??

 

[Pathik]

Re: Help me with PC Configuration

@shantanu y did u merge the threads... its not a sticky anymore and also the title has changed to that of the 2nd one..

 

[shantanu]

i think its ok now

 

[S!D]

Now for 17,200

Here is what I can think of,

ColorSit 500 Watts @ Rs. 1600/- + TAX
160 GB SATA-II (8mb buffer) Rs. 2000/- + TAX
1GB DDR-II 800 MHz Rs. 2200/- + TAX

Lowest Mobo which makes sense would be XFX 650i Ultra Rs. 5000/- + TAX

That Left us Rs. 6400 ....

C2D Processors in that range would be E4400 !!!

Brilliant!!
Just edges the cut.

Just with the processor, I heard from Sabre that the C2D 4series are not based on a Conroe Core against the 6series, and this makes quite a striking difference in performance.

Given the platform you stated above, do you think its better to stretch to a E6550, or would that be just overkill of power with no practical deliverance

Comment...

if u intend on upgrading ur proccy when 45nm intel proccy's come out , then its better to take choto's old suggestion and buy E2140.

I only intend add on more components to upgrade, rather than scrapping off any .

if u dont intend on upgrading ur proccy next year , better to compromise on that TFT and buy a CRT and go4 e6750.

No can do there , crazy abt watchin movies on a 19" wide. I watched a cuple on Sabre's rig n they look pretty stunning.

...ur other components like the g-card wont bottleneck the 6750.

I hear u there. right now doin some serious calculations wid budget, between an E6550 and E6750 . I wish I had a better salary .

since ur buying the g-card later , chances are more that the cpu bottlenecks the g-card and not the other way around . so no point in going for a lower powered amd now. .

Point taken..thinking on the lines of C2D now. Jai ho 'Intel Baba' ki. Hum firse ghar aa gaya (to intel base).

 

[spikygv]

@s!d , i hope u have a pcie card at present . coz the xfx 650i doesnt have onboard gfx . i'm pretty certain u took that into consideration and u have a existing pcie / pci card to run ur rig . i'm sorry, i dont know the differences b/w 4 and 6 series in c2d . but i'm sure 6 series will perform better and thats wat matters now. and surely enough 6550 wont be a overkill. as per theitwares.com 6550 is priced at 7500 bucks which will slightly exceed ur budget , but its worth it . i wud prefer it over any 4 series c2d . i think its worth 1k stretch in ur budget. and i dont think e6750 will be much better than e6550 .so i vote for e6550 as u have budget constraint . u can OC e6550 beyond the level of stock 6750 easily . i'm pretty sure of this point , but i wud like some1 to second this thought .

 

[Pathik]

Get a e6750 + a xfx 650i Ultra..
Also yea the 4xxx s are Allendales not Conroe cores...
IF i was you i wd take a e2140 or 2160 for now and upgrade to a 45nm proccy later.. the 21x0s are awesome overclockers... So you can experiment with them too..

 

[S!D]

@s!d , i hope u have a pcie card at present . coz the xfx 650i doesnt have onboard gfx . i'm pretty certain u took that into consideration and u have a existing pcie / pci card to run ur rig.

Oopsie, wasnt aware of this detail. Dats gonna be a problem.
The reason I dont wanna get a grfx card right now, is that i want a descent dx10 card to come within range. N i dont plan to go SLI any time soon .. so a non-sli MOBO with onboard grfx is needed. any good one's u can suggest probably ?

i dont think e6750 will be much better than e6550 .so i vote for e6550 as u have budget constraint . u can OC e6550 beyond the level of stock 6750 easily . i'm pretty sure of this point , but i wud like some1 to second this thought .

I am not into overclocking. at least I dont wanna do it on my own PC.

 

[Pathik]

If you dont wanna overclock then get an Intel original board.. they ll be cheap... Get a DG965RY or a DG33BU..

 

[S!D]

Get a e6750 + a xfx 650i Ultra..
Also yea the 4xxx s are Allendales not Conroe cores...
IF i was you i wd take a e2140 or 2160 for now and upgrade to a 45nm proccy later..

How long until the 45nm proccy's are launched(and more importantly, are affordable; ie, under 10k)?

 

[Harvik780]

How long until the 45nm proccy's are launched(and more importantly, are affordable; ie, under 10k)?

@Help is here said that they would be released somewhere around November.I m sure there will be some lower end models which will come under 10k.

 

[Choto Cheeta]

@Help is here said that they would be released somewhere around November.I m sure there will be some lower end models which will come under 10k.

well I feeel expect JAN 2008 in Indian Market to see 45mns... as before that we will have a huge sell of C2D 65nms.. thats what I am interested in, 6k for E6850 wont be a bad deal

but again may Be i am flying a high hope

 

[spikygv]

Oopsie, wasnt aware of this detail. Dats gonna be a problem.
The reason I dont wanna get a grfx card right now, is that i want a descent dx10 card to come within range. N i dont plan to go SLI any time soon .. so a non-sli MOBO with onboard grfx is needed. any good one's u can suggest probably ?

I am not into overclocking. at least I dont wanna do it on my own PC.

even if u dont OC now , u'll have to do it eventually to get more juice . and remember that c2d's are very good OCers . u can get performance gains from 25% - 80% ( from wat i've read ) . so its better to opt for a board that allows OCing . If u still prefer to not OC , then take e6750 + d965RY or d33BU ( dunno which is better amongst them ) . asus board p5k - vm has onboard gfx and supports 1333mhz and ofcorse supports OCing but is terrible buy at 8k . much better to go4 xfx 650i + some cheap ( cheapest in ur case ) gfx card like 6200 .

now ,
1. u're having second thots abt new 45nm processors , so wats it going to be , e2140 or e6550 ??

2. Are u very very sure abt OCing . the mobo issue gets resolved if u dont OC , but puts u at a significant disadvantage in performance ( its quite possible that u can OC ur e6550 to nearly 3.4 ghz or even more , so thats quite a big increase in speed , consider this well and ask others . ) and although there is some risk involved in OCing , its not very risky unless u do extreme OC . u can OC pretty easily with stock cooling to a safe level and still get recognizable performance increase . so , ask others and think about this again .

3.now u need to spend 2k for a cheap gfx card (i dont know if cheaper are there and this is ofcourse u stick with xfx 650i in wich case i have assumed u want to keep the option of OCing open)and +1k from ur budget already for e6550 . so can u increase ur budget by 3k ?

 

[mukherjee]

Re: New DVD Writer

k people..i m on a buying spree...

now wat i need is a dvd-writer.

i have zeroed in on SONY-> DRU830A and LiteOn-> LH-20A1P. which one shud i go for and why? wat will be the approximate price?

do i need to get a lightscribe writer? in dat case we have the DRU-835A and the DH-20A3H?prices?choices?

so wats the final decision?wat do i do?

 

[Choto Cheeta]

DVD RW ?? all comes with One year Warrenty so to me go for the cheaper ones no need to spend money on those Sony RW

Liteon Rs. 1300/- + TAX is my choise !!!

 

[mukherjee]

hey choto...comment about my vm prob in the vitualizers thread plz.

n..yes i think liteon. i hv got a tool which disables RPCII for liteon drives he ehe ..

 

[Pathik]

^^ but that ll void the warranty dude.. Also dru 830a is only 1.4k now.. Go 4 it.

 

[mayanks_098]

my two friends are buying pc's.
one's budget is 20k and others is 30k.both can not go beyond the budget.

suggest a rig.mediocre gaming(not high level)

 

[Choto Cheeta]

tell me, in both case do you need full config ?? i mean including Spk + UPS + Monitor or its just the CPU you are looking for ??

 

[mayanks_098]

i want a complete pc.

but speakers are not to be included in rig.


and one more thing,i dont think if they opt for @least e6300 then they will get others hardware good enough.i mean if they get a e6300 then they need a good mobo to support it and that would cost them @least 15-20k i suppose,which will leave little for other things in 30k rig and nothing in case of 20k..

so in that case is suggesting p4-ht,athlons better then lower end c2d'd like e4400?

P.S.
and sorry for that thread again.that was irresponsible on part of mine.
actually i dont have my specs with me right now so dint care to look for the stickies.