Basic Guide Purchase a New System

[nish_higher]

4000+ = 2.6k ?
and how about hellgate's planned mobo instead of mine ?
how is 4000+ compared to E2140 ? when both are OCed by stock kooling ?

yes it costs 2.6k
MSI K9AGM2 does not have 4 ddr2 dual channel slots so Jetway is much better-i'd suggest the same to hellgate

X2 4000+ performs better than E2140 .source- CPu benchmark chart on *www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=917&model2=884&chart=435

 

[hellgate]

yes it costs 2.6k
MSI K9AGM2 does not have 4 ddr2 dual channel slots so Jetway is much better-i'd suggest the same to hellgate

X2 4000+ performs better than E2140 .source- CPu benchmark chart on *www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=917&model2=884&chart=435

but E2160 performs better or is at par with X2 400+.both procies also cost almost the same (X2 4000+ -> 2.6k & E2160 -> 2.7k).
also E2160 oc's better than X2 4000+.
so ithink its better to buy the E2160 instead of X2 4000+.

 

[nish_higher]

yes it does. he wants to compare E2140 with X2 4000+
and yea its better to buy E2160 but a similar motherboard with those features will cost more than AMD's mobo.so considering VFM its better.there's 6-7% difference in performance

 

[MetalheadGautham]

but E2160 performs better or is at par with X2 400+.both procies also cost almost the same (X2 4000+ -> 2.6k & E2160 -> 2.7k).
but E2160 oc's better than X2 4000+.
so ithink its better to buy the E2160 instead of X2 4000+.

E2160 is just 200mhz extra on E2140. And if both X2 4000+ and E2160 are OCed to the max on respective mobos(jetway + 4000 and XFX630i + 2160) I feel 4000+ must perform better.

 

[hellgate]

E2160 is just 200mhz extra on E2140. And if both X2 4000+ and E2160 are OCed to the max on respective mobos(jetway + 4000 and XFX630i + 2160) I feel 4000+ must perform better.

cant agree with u on this one.when oc'ed the E2140/E2160 will perform far better than X2 4000+ for the sole reason that both E2140/E2160 will clk higher that X2 4000+ can ever think of.also E2160 will perform better when oc'd.

 

[priyadarshi]

hi all!
plz suggest me proc and ram for my intel dg965ry. this board supports upto 2.66ghz E6700 processor.
*processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.aspx?Boardname=dg965ry
and 8gb of ram at DDR2 667 or DDR2 533 and 4gb at DDR2 800
*www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/dg965ry/sb/CS-026602.htm
which one will perform better. 8gb with 667mhz or 4gb with 800mhz.

 

[infra_red_dude]

cant agree with u on this one.when oc'ed the E2140/E2160 will perform far better than X2 4000+ for the sole reason that both E2140/E2160 will clk higher that X2 4000+ can ever think of.also E2160 will perform better when oc'd.

+1, wanna overclock then E series is the best. Wanna run at stock speed then nothing beats AMD for VFM.

 

[gxsaurav]

I found the cost just now, AMD 4200+ is for Rs 3, 500 here but Asus M2N-VM DVI is Rs 5,800. I am going with Intel setup

Final config is..

Intel Pentium E2160 CPU
Asus P5KPL-VM Motherboard
2X1 GB DDR2 667 RAM.
Western Digital WD1600AAJS Harddisk
iBall Baby 306 CPU Cabinet
I will be exchanging my 10 days old Samsung SH-S202J IDE DVD Writer for a similar SATA Model for free
I am exchanging my Pinnacle PCTV 100i TV Tuner card & buying a Pinnacle PCTV Tuner kit for Vista for Rs 500
LG 17" Widescreen LCD Monitor after selling my Samsung Syncmaster 793S CRT Monitor

Existing hardware which I will migrate to the new PC

Microsoft Erogonomics Keyboard 4000 with Wireless Laser Mouse 5000
Microsoft Lifecam VX-3000
Logitech X-230 Speakers
Philips HP-250 earphones
Windows Vista & Office 2007 License

The PC will be a small but nice looking silent system. I will over clock upto safe limit with the stock cooler. If like Choto said, the system can run stable & cool upto 2.2 GHz fine without any hickups then I will sure overclick to 2.2 Ghz. Stress testing is not a problem to heat up the CPU, just start Cinebench in loop

Total money I have to pay to the shopkeeper is Rs 7,000.

Is it a good deal?

 

[janitha]

I found the cost just now, AMD 4200+ is for Rs 3, 500 here but Asus M2N-VM DVI is Rs 5,800. I am going with Intel setup

Even @ theitwares, M2N - VM DVI costs only Rs.3300/-. How can there be such a difference?

 

[gxsaurav]

Cos the DVI model isn't available, HDMI one is.

No problems though, I will over clock the E2160 cpu anyway...

 

[infra_red_dude]

^^^ 7k looks good overall I think you can go with the setup.

 

[gxsaurav]

Guys, fellow friends...I am very sorry to say but SCRAP THE IDEA....I GOT A JOB AGAIN.

I got my designing job again in Lucknow, which I can continue to do from home and if I get selected somewhere then I will leave this job & jump to studies, purchase of laptop is on hold now as I again need a Desktop workstation. I am looking at TheITWares for approximate costs, continuing with the old configuration. No over clocking now & I need a better CPU out of the box.

Now the motherboards are going to be either Intel DG31PR or Asus M2N-VM DVI depending on whether it is Intel or AMD.

For CPU, here is the question. Core 2 Duo E4500 is for Rs 4,800 while Athlon64 5000+ is available for Rs 5,000. Which is better performance wise?

For graphics card, XFX 8500GT with 512 MB RAM looks good at Rs 4,000. Since I don't have to game, 8600GT isn't required & additional 256 MB of RAM compared to XFX 8600GT is better in my case.

Rest everything else is same as before.

 

[dOm1naTOr]

4200+ @ 3.5k???
its below 3k here and M2N VM DVI is for 3.3k in here. I damn sure coz ive already bought it for two of my friends.

 

[nish_higher]

Guys, fellow friends...I am very sorry to say but SCRAP THE IDEA....I GOT A JOB AGAIN.

I got my designing job again in Lucknow, which I can continue to do from home and if I get selected somewhere then I will leave this job & jump to studies, purchase of laptop is on hold now as I again need a Desktop workstation. I am looking at TheITWares for approximate costs, continuing with the old configuration. No over clocking now & I need a better CPU out of the box.

Now the motherboards are going to be either Intel DG31PR or Asus M2N-VM DVI depending on whether it is Intel or AMD.

For CPU, here is the question. Core 2 Duo E4500 is for Rs 4,800 while Athlon64 5000+ is available for Rs 5,000. Which is better performance wise?

For graphics card, XFX 8500GT with 512 MB RAM looks good at Rs 4,000. Since I don't have to game, 8600GT isn't required & additional 256 MB of RAM compared to XFX 8600GT is better in my case.

Rest everything else is same as before.

congrats for the job

X2 5000+ has less L2 cache so even it can be overclocked to X2 6400+,it performs not that good. E4500 beats X2 5000+ anyday when oc'ed.even E2160 does that
go with intel E4500 , XFX 8500GT 512mb , motherboard-if u can extend ur budget,DG33FB will be much better

 

[gxsaurav]

That's not in the requirment list anymore

@ Nish...

Tell me about non overclocked state, cos like I said no more over clocking now.

Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 or Athlon64 X2 5000+ AM2 in non-over clocked state.

Is Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 available? I remember it works at 2.4 GHz & has 2 MB L2 Cache

Taking a look at XFX 8500GT with 512MB RAM now. More Video RAM helps in 3ds max compared to a 8600GT over 8500GT.

Intel DG33FB motherboard provides no compelling feature over DG31PR for my use. I want a stable workstation you know.

 

[nish_higher]

*images.anandtech.com/graphs/mainstream%20cpu%20roundup%20q3%202007_09250790922/15639.png

Source-ANandtech
E4500 beats AMD 5000+ at stock
and the motherboard i was saying because it supports dual channel ram,but DG31PR is also good.

 

[Pathik]

That's not in the requirment list anymore

@ Nish...

Tell me about non overclocked state, cos like I said no more over clocking now.

Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 or Athlon64 X2 5000+ AM2 in non-over clocked state.

Is Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 available? I remember it works at 2.4 GHz & has 2 MB L2 Cache

Taking a look at XFX 8500GT with 512MB RAM now. More Video RAM helps in 3ds max compared to a 8600GT over 8500GT.

Intel DG33FB motherboard provides no compelling feature over DG31PR for my use. I want a stable workstation you know.

No e6600. and it had 4mb l2.

 

[gxsaurav]

Ok, Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 CPU is fixed. This is final. If I can get an old stock of E6600 then I will buy it.

Intel DG31PR motherboard is Final.

Cabinet is iBall Baby 306, final.

2X1 GB DDR2 667 RAM is Final.

XFX GeForce 8600GT with 512 MB DDR2 RAM & 17" Samsung 732NW LCD monitor is final, but next month.

Western Digital WD1600AAJS Harddisk is final.

I will be exchanging my Samsung SH-S202J IDE DVD Writer for Samsung SH-S203D SATA DVD Writer for free.

I will be exchanging my Pinnacle PCTV 100i with Pinnacle Tuner kit for Vista by paying a difference of Rs 500.

Existing hardware which I will migrate to the new PC

Microsoft Erogonomics Keyboard 4000 with Laser Mouse 5000
Microsoft Lifecam VX-3000
Logitech X-230 Speakers
Philips HP-250 earphones
Windows Vista & Office 2007 License

 

[nish_higher]

^ awesome !
that WD HDD was my 1st ever WD hdd-it performs great and i got so impressed i bought rest 3 hdds of the same brand

i won't say anything abt LCD because 1 month might change current choice

PS- make sure that mobo is from the latest lot-the one that has a newest manfacturing date (i'd say that for any motherboard)

 

[gxsaurav]

Ok, I will check that the motherboard is latest stock