Apple wins $1 billion victory over Samsung

[Sarath]

I am surprised people are so aghast at this ruling. There was a much bigger one that affected Android forcing it to lose some features or pay royalties for them. This is miniscule in comparison.

This ruling is actually a good one. Samsung was blatantly copying iPhone which was disgusting. More so because Samsung is the major Android player while the rest are pushed to a minority hence it's not too far fetched to say that Sammy represents Android atm with respect to market share. And that major player has, on the HW side an exterior shell which is a crude copy of the iPhone while it's custom UI "touchwiz" is another cheap looking iPhone copy. This is in certain ways an insult to everything Android is.

Despite such ugly designs Sammy has made it so far, just think how far it would go if it had decent designs like the Xperia S or the HTC Ones. That would just kill Apple.

I believe apple is right to sue Sammy on this one.

For everyone, thinking Apple will make a monopoly, I am quite shocked. The only people who could have done that are Nokia, Motorola, Mircrosoft and Apple in that order. Apple couldn't possibly pull off becoming a monopoly in this space.

Of course it can if every Android user thinks of Apple as being superior to Android and hence would want to buy Apple for the features it has and at the same time believes that Apple is the only one that innovates while Android just copies. Which is not the case. Android is sure to pick up it's popularity looking at the speed of it's development. I for one, feel Android would be a generation ahead of iOS soon, maybe when 6.0 releases and Google starts producing through Motorola and fragmentation comes down. And if the patents Apple is carrying are general use one, the they quite obviously can be called for Fair use patents. Apple would get sued if they didn't allow others to use them for an appropriate fee. But no one is going to sell patents that set them apart.

 

[ajaymailed]

There was a much bigger one that affected Android forcing it to lose some features or pay royalties for them. This is miniscule in comparison.

which one was that? what feature did android lose.

btw, they are saying pinch to zoom and rubber banding effect has been patented by Apple but these are available in almost every android phone.


*www.firstpost.com/tech/apple-samsung-verdict-the-devices-that-are-in-trouble-429939.html

The bounce back scrolling feature: This one went to Apple in a big way. According to TechCrunch: Samsung was found to have infringed on patents for ’381 “bounce back” scrolling functionality on all devices. Major loss for Samsung.

The design patent: Now remember this fight was also to extent about rectangles with rounded corners with Apple stating that Samsung had stolen its design. According to CNet, the jury has found Samsung guilty of infringing on Apple’s design and utility patents. This applies to some of Samsung’s products and not all. So much for Samsung saying that some of Apple’s patents were just plain crazy.

Pinch to zoom, one finger scroll, and zoom navigation aka Patent 915: Except for Galaxy Ace, Intercept, and Replenish, every other Samsung device was found to be infringing on this patent.

Tap to zoom which is Patent 163: Again only a few Samsung devices escaped. These were Captivate, Indulge, Intercept, Nexus S 4G, Transform and Vibrant. Everything else was an infringement.So basically Apple won pretty much everything and Samsung had come out looking like a major rip-off. But the war is not over. The Verge reports that both sides will now file for a preliminary trial injunction, which is set for 20 September. That will decide the fate as to which products will face the ban.

For Apple this sets up the stage for what might well become the biggest tech domination in decades to come and for Samsung, the hit will be felt across many markets – revenue and device sales.

 

[Anorion]

at this time paying for the tech is gonna be cheaper than developing their own alternatives, which also will be passed on to the consumers
apple is protecting their property, blame the system not the company. Each patent application is passed only after checking all the other patents, and most of them have a comparison to similar patents and how this one stands out. There are several specific points on which the case is decided, and a ruling like this goes to show that the company did copy.
think HTC was smart in it's lawsuits against apple, and apple has emerged the loser many times, this is an exception
watching out for what RIM has up it's sleeve

 

[rider]

Now we would some totally different galaxy S4 next year. Do samsung is still allow to sale their phone in US or not? If not HTC is celebrating to occupy android market in US.

 

[rajnusker]

Good job Apple, Samsung totally deserved it.

 

[theserpent]

Hope apple wont sue Sony there andros are good!!

 

[sujoyp]

I think even nokia used to make/try new and unique designs with there handsets for long....but samsung r stuck to same design...be it 10k or 30k handset..
Now that they have the market in hand they should try something new...

on this issue- Apple paid for patents, they spend to create the UI,Icons,design ...its absolutely ok if they filed case on the companies copying them..

 

[Anorion]

the bounce at the end of the scroll was also copied, searching for more specifics.
apple is not likely to sue sony - wud have happened by now

dont forget when Apple, Ericsson, Microsoft, RIM and Sony teamed up and pwnd Google at the Nortel auction

 

[nginx]

Well not going too deep into legal tangles(!!!???), a rectangle,circle or any other geometrical shape is a generic one for civilisation...I don't know how any company/organisation could claim these as their sole proprietorship?

It is clear now,that "APPLE" or rotten...whatever we call or think off(EXCEPTING THE FANBOYS)has leaped well over Microsoft,and now it wants to be THE ONE AND ONLY ONE in this world with brutual monopolistic supremacy.It wants that it will sell its Hardware+Software at any price (Mainly for the Elite or any ROBBER/THIEF/BURGLAR...etc.);simply put "THOSE WHO HAVE THE MONEY TO SPLURGE".
It really wants to suck out as much wealth,money,resources from the World with an impeccable lust...

Very soon Apple will claim copyright and patent over the letters of the English language. Then we will have to pay licensing fees to type on our keyboards.

Its sick how a court can even entertain such lawsuits which encourages greedy monopolistic behavior and discourages innovation & creativity. How can anyone patent a shape, seriously?

 

[pratyush997]

seems like juries were corrupted... lol... this was so lame case

seems like juries were corrupted... lol... this was so lame case

 

[ico]

Doesn't really matter.

People using iPhone will continue to use iPhone. People using Android will continue to use Android. People wasting time will continue to waste time. People being idiots will continue to be idiots.

 

[sujoyp]

Doesn't really matter.

People using iPhone will continue to use iPhone. People using Android will continue to use Android. People wasting time will continue to waste time. People being idiots will continue to be idiots.

ICO well said

 

[kg11sgbg]

Very soon Apple will claim copyright and patent over the letters of the English language. Then we will have to pay licensing fees to type on our keyboards.

Its sick how a court can even entertain such lawsuits which encourages greedy monopolistic behavior and discourages innovation & creativity. How can anyone patent a shape, seriously?

+1 to you.Well said.
I am not against the SUPREME Technology of APPLE or Intel or Microsoft.
Not against their prices/cost also,they DESERVE THEIR HARDWARE/SOFTWARE to be paid.

I (PERSONALLY) AM AGAINST THE IDEA OR VIEWS BY THEIR DRACONIAN DICTATORSHIP STRATEGIES TO THE MARKET,WHICH BRINGS SUFFERINGS TO THE END USERS/CUSTOMERS.

Samsung dug their feet in the mud,so they have to definitely bear the consequences...

Doesn't really matter.

People using iPhone will continue to use iPhone. People using Android will continue to use Android. People wasting time will continue to waste time. People being idiots will continue to be idiots.

Claps to you ico.
People using SAMSUNG(Tablets/SMART PHONES) will continue to think again & again & again...

 

[pratyush997]

hi can Apple file case against SONY??
cuz Sony launched Sony xperia ion ...n "i" is similar to all "i"(s) in apple devices...iPad,iPhone,iCloud.. ....

 

[vaithy]

If the entire world turned into USA's slave states, than we may consider Apple victory is decisive.but thanks GOD! that is not the position.so the 'War' is yet to be over.
even if SAMSUNG close the shop, there are numerous manufacturers in the Android camp. So "Go Thermo Nuclear war" NOT GOING TO WORK!

vaithy

 

[NIGHTMARE]

Ctrl C + Ctrl V = Bans And Fined

 

[Anorion]

South Korea ruled they copied from each other, and banned some devices from both companies in the market
Microsoft must be partying

 

[d6bmg]

Doesn't really matter.

People using iPhone will continue to use iPhone. People using Android will continue to use Android. People wasting time will continue to waste time. People being idiots will continue to be idiots.

Being an idiot won't solve anything, be it a customer or a judge.
And this ruling, sadly, does matter.

 

[Usui1811]

knew it would be coming one day or the other, but with a such big cost ? that was unexpected. Apple really took a real deal out of it.. for copying rectangle with rounded shapes ? come on thats simple geometry.. but well, nothing is simple in the professional world.

 

[coderunknown]

South Korea ruled they copied from each other, and banned some devices from both companies in the market
Microsoft must be partying

no. it won't. Samsung pays M$ royalty for each Android mobile they sell. Less android mobile = less revenue for M$. Read somewhere that M$ makes more money from royalties paid by Sammy (or maybe combined army) than from WP as a whole.