PC Buying Guide 2011- Q4

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Topgear, Gigabyte GA-MA78LMT-S2 supports upto 125W processor, it can support Phenom II X6 1100T whereas The Asus M5A78L-M LX supports up to 95W CPU. So using a high end CPU in future or overclocking will be problematic here.
 

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I don't know if these will be available in India (atm they are not afaik) but if they are, at proper price point, I guess, they would make a killer:-

MSI Global – Graphics Card - R6950 Twin Frozr III 1GD5 Power Edition

MSI Global – Graphics Card - R6950 Twin Frozr III 1GD5 Power Edition/OC


You can read the review of the OCed model here:-

MSI R6950 Twin Frozr III 1GD5 Power Edition/OC - Bjorn3D.com


When I first checked the link, I thought there was some mistake regarding the amount of VRAM. But then the length of the card:-

*www.bjorn3d.com/Material/revimages/video/MSI_HD6950_Twin_FrozerIII/pic13.jpg


So MSI continues the tradition of using the shorter 6870-sized PCB for the 6950 1gb. Finally MSI website confirms there really exists 1gb version of 6950, that too TFIII!!! :twisted:
 

topgear

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^^ Thanks a lot for the info - they are trying to make TFIII available to every HD6950 buyer ;-)

Topgear, Gigabyte GA-MA78LMT-S2 supports upto 125W processor, it can support Phenom II X6 1100T whereas The Asus M5A78L-M LX supports up to 95W CPU. So using a high end CPU in future or overclocking will be problematic here.

Ok - then Gigabyte GA-MA78LMT-S2 should stay ;-)

but why they have written ( in the Since BIOS Version Column ) NA for every 125W Hexa core cpus ;confused; - the only 125W cpu supported by F10 bios is Phenom II X4 965

But one should avoid both of them, and go for APC.

But for that the budget should be increased by 600 bucks ;-)
 
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So MSI continues the tradition of using the shorter 6870-sized PCB for the 6950 1gb. Finally MSI website confirms there really exists 1gb version of 6950, that too TFIII!!! :twisted:

this implies end of era for other 13-14k cards.

but why didnt it launch 2 months back :hissyfit:
 
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Jaskanwar Singh

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Check new Z68 chipset based motherboard from Asus
Asus P8Z68-V LE Z68 Motherboard

tenida its pricey. doesnt support x8 x8 cfx or sli. msi gd55 a better buy.

For a single GPU config - going with a ASUS M5A88-M makes more sense IMO ;-)

Logitech MK200 is 0.7k and Instead of using Microtek 600VA we should suggest Numeric 600VA for 0.3k more.

For the 25k rig how about Asus M5A78L-M LX @ 2.6k ;-)

ok TP. and thanks for ups and keyboard suggestion.
but your doubt about the gigabyte board seems a great problem. what to do?

Why not 7 months back? :banghead:

err skud even 6950 TFIII 2GB wasn't launched then AFAIK.
 

Skud

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I know. Heck, MSI, Asus and PowerColor all were without any 6950 1gb at that time. Anyway, good news for me. ;)
 

topgear

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^^ simple- he will CF his current HD6950 1GB with a HD6950 1GB TFIII ;-)

@ Jaskanwar Singh - mobos based on 760G+SB710 can support 125W TDP PII Hexa and quad core cpus but it all depends on the manufacturer.

For instance :

Gigabyte GA-MA78LMT-S2 has no supporting bios version for 125W Hexa core PII cpus and that's why they have written NA beside every Hexa core PII 125W cpus.

MSI 760GM-E51 and Biostar A780L3 Ver. 6.x supports AMD PII Hxa core 125W cpus with bios update.

Now coming to the Asus M5A78L-M LX which though does not supports AMD PII Hxa core 125W cpus but is the only cheapest AM3+ mobo in the market currently available in the market.

Now coming to the which 760G mobo to choose from all of these : People who buy such value based mobos do not usually use a 8-10k - most of them use cpus upto 5-6k with his kind of mobos. Now with the upcoming release of BD cpus current PII Hexa Cores will be more cheaper but BD cpus will have improved performance for sure compared to the current PII cpus - So a quad core BD cpu might outperform ( or be neck to neck ) a current gen P II hexa core cpus at the same price level and in the future current PII cpus will be EOLed and BD cpus will remain mainstream.

Our target PC using here a 760+710 mobo is for those who want to build a rig around 25k now - the Quad core Athlon II X4 will work with any 760G+710 mobo but if the user wants to upgrade later all he might found in the market will be BullDozer cpus and he/she can choose fom many BullDozer 95W cpu models - so it's better to suggest the Asus M5A78L-M LX which have AM3+ socket ;-)

@ Tenida - Nice find - most probably the cheapest Z68 mobo from Asus - but MSI and Gigabyte has 1k chepaer Z68 mobo than this ;-)
 
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Jaskanwar Singh

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^^ simple- he will CF his current HD6950 1GB with a HD6950 1GB TFIII ;-)

@ Jaskanwar Singh - mobos based on 760G+SB710 can support 125W TDP PII Hexa and quad core cpus but it all depends on the manufacturer.

For instance :

Gigabyte GA-MA78LMT-S2 has no supporting bios version for 125W Hexa core PII cpus and that's why they have written NA beside every Hexa core PII 125W cpus.

MSI 760GM-E51 and Biostar A780L3 Ver. 6.x supports AMD PII Hxa core 125W cpus with bios update.

Now coming to the Asus M5A78L-M LX which though does not supports AMD PII Hxa core 125W cpus but is the only cheapest AM3+ mobo in the market currently available in the market.

Now coming to the which 760G mobo to choose from all of these : People who buy such value based mobos do not usually use a 8-10k - most of them use cpus upto 5-6k with his kind of mobos. Now with the upcoming release of BD cpus current PII Hexa Cores will be more cheaper but BD cpus will have improved performance for sure compared to the current PII cpus - So a quad core BD cpu might outperform ( or be neck to neck ) a current gen P II hexa core cpus at the same price level and in the future current PII cpus will be EOLed and BD cpus will remain mainstream.

Our target PC using here a 760+710 mobo is for those who want to build a rig around 25k now - the Quad core Athlon II X4 will work with any 760G+710 mobo but if the user wants to upgrade later all he might found in the market will be BullDozer cpus and he/she can choose fom many BullDozer 95W cpu models - so it's better to suggest the Asus M5A78L-M LX which have AM3+ socket ;-)

@ Tenida - Nice find - most probably the cheapest Z68 mobo from Asus - but MSI and Gigabyte has 1k chepaer Z68 mobo than this ;-)

got your point.

and cheapest z68 from asus i think -
Asus P8Z68-M PRO Motherboard
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vickybat

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Prices at smc-international has increased significantly for all components. From gpu's-cpu's, prices are up now. I wonder its effective in local and other online vendors as well.

@ jaskanwar

You haven't updated the first page with 560-ti hawk as an option yet?
 
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Jaskanwar Singh

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vickybat its not updated yet. you can see previous 50k there. compare it.
yeah. 6850 pe is now 10k. but 6970 lightning is 23k as before. and 560ti tfII is 15k!! even 580 tfII is touching 30k.
so i doubt 560 ti hawk to be 14k and 6950 pe to be 16k anymore.

what to do? please tell fast as i have to update front with new configs.

BTW MK200 at 700 is available at smc -
Logitech Media Combo MK200

UPDATE-
a new case - NZXT Source 220
NZXT :: Unique. Unprecendented. Inspired - May the Source 220 Be With You
NZXT :: Unique. Unprecendented. Inspired - Source 220 Product Detail
Maximum PC | NZXT Source 220: A $60 Brushed Aluminum Mid Tower Case? (Update -- Steel Case with Brushed Aluminum Finish)

ANOTHER THING-
even i5 2400 is 10.2k, and other processors are up. DELL ST2220L - 9.6K :shock:, DELL IN2030M - 6.9k

this implies complete new rigs again??????? :-(
 
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