Overheating problems

topgear

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CM has some cheap OEM coolers which should be around Rs. 300-350.

The model number is D15-9HDSL-0L-GP - as I've bought one these for a friend's c2d e 6700 once I know about it :p
 

arc84

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@asigh : thanks man for the quick reply. I'll surely hunt for the CM LGA775 HSF. BTW You have any idea how much it will cost?

edit: sorry, didn't see the post by topgear.
 

arc84

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@topgear : will CM D15-9HDSL-0L-GP be good enough for my intel p4 511 processor coz my processor has a power rating of 84w whereas c2d processors have a power rating of 65w only. moreover pentium 4 is not listed in the compatibility specs of the cooler on the theitdepot website....confused
 

topgear

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@ arc84 - your cpu is based on LGA775 Socket so the cooler will fit and work without any hitch.

as for for TDP - yes DP15 is rated only for 65W cpus not 84W - but there is no other cheap cpu cooler is available at that price point ..

If you can get a CM Hyper TX3 around 1.3K it will be the best bet for you - it would be a great buy for you as it will come handy even in the future - it supports following cpu sockets :p

Socket LGA775/1156,
AMD Socket 754/939/940/AM2/AM3
 

arc84

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@ asigh: the motherboard is intel 915gav

@topgear: yeah CM Hyper TX3 is a good buy but i dont want to spend that much for a cooler right now, moreover i wont be upgrading before the second quarter of next year. will DP15 be able to keep my core temperature within 80-85 degrees on full load? if yes, i will go for it.

A friend said that he purchased the push pin once from a shop in chandni mkt, will go there on the 6th with one of the pins from my cooler as a reference.

In the meanwhile, my cpu is in the horizontal position with the core at around 68degrees without load and 85degrees on full load.

here is the speedfan screenshot:
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asingh

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the HSF from CM will fit, as TopGear mentioned, since its standard LGA775. If you do not want to spend, then try to replace the pushpin. Though nothing beats a bolt-down.
 

arc84

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yes my first priority is to replace the pins but i couldn't find them on my earlier trip to chandni mkt. will go wid a frnd this time, hope i find them.
 

topgear

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@ arc84 - your cpu's thermal spec is around 68C ( max ) - so I think it would be safer to get a Hyper TX3 as 85C is way beyond your cpu's thermal specs.
 

arc84

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but then i have been monitoring my cpu temps for the last 2-2.5 yrs n have never seen it below 77-78 degrees with full load.

will try to purchase Hyper TX3 after 2-3 months as i am running short of cash right now :-(
 

asingh

Aspiring Novelist
@ arc84 - your cpu's thermal spec is around 68C ( max ) - so I think it would be safer to get a Hyper TX3 as 85C is way beyond your cpu's thermal specs.

How could it be so low. And now I cannot even tell which CPU. ARC, update your signature. Groan.
 

pulsar_swift

Youngling
Asigh,

68C is low ? I think 955BE spec is also in the 60-70 range. AMD doesnt publish TjMax for its CPUs. Any idea what is the max temp for 955BE before it starts throttling.
 

asingh

Aspiring Novelist
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As far as I know, most Intels throttle after 100C, for 45nm E's, and around 90C for 45nm Quads. The new i series should also be around 100C. For AMD BE, I could not find any data, but remember people mentioning 62-65C. Which is quite low, and bad.
 

arc84

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@asigh : signature updated. well, its a 5yr old comp. wat else can one expect :)

When my proccy was at 105 degrees, i checked its stats with cpuz v1.54 n the core was operating at 1.8GHz instead of the usual 2.8

BTW the core goes upto 77 degrees on full load with the cabinet in the horizontal position n it still works at 2.8GHz

So, its confirmed that intels throttle after 100C. Well, at least P4 does ;-)
 

topgear

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There is no timax temp published for p4 511 and the temp monitoring apps monitor only it's tcase temp - there is only cpu tcase temp for such procs and p4 511's maximum tcase temp is 67.7C just like a e6300 has max tcase ( also known as Thermal Specification ) temp of 74.1C

but it's tjmax may be higher that's why the cpu throttles around 100c.

I don't think it would be safe to operate the cpu beyond it's tcase temp so get a tx3 asap.

Thermal Specification: The thermal specification shown is the maximum case temperature at the maximum Thermal Design Power (TDP) value for that processor. It is measured at the geometric center on the topside of the processor integrated heat spreader.
 

arc84

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went to chandani yesterday n got the push pins really cheap @25 per piece.

The only problem with them was that the latch on the white part of the clip couldnt hold on the black part in the locking position n as a result it popped out again. Took me 15 mins but in the end was able to lock them in position.

Processor is idling at 63-65C n around 75-77C on full load in the vertical position. Its OK for me coz i dont want to spend any money on it right now. Will try to buy a tx3 in a couple of months.

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pulsar_swift

Youngling
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As far as I know, most Intels throttle after 100C, for 45nm E's, and around 90C for 45nm Quads. The new i series should also be around 100C. For AMD BE, I could not find any data, but remember people mentioning 62-65C. Which is quite low, and bad.

Asigh,

I ran a benchmark test using AMD Overdrive. The PC was running stable at 54degrees C at 100% load on 4 cores. Room temperature was 34degrees C. I ran the test for 11minutes.

So 62-65 as the Tj MAx is OK right, assuming all other external factors are fine.

One more question, arc has been mentioning in his posts about the CPU position being horizantal and vertical. How does this impact the temps ?
 
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arc84

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@pulsar_swift : as asigh mentioned the position of the cpu does not matter. its only coz of the fact that two of my stock cooler push pins were broken n its was nt able to cool the cpu in the normal position that i had to put it in the horizontal position so that the cooler sits right on the cpu without the push pins n at least prevent my proccy from melting ;-)
 

pulsar_swift

Youngling
@pulsar_swift : as asigh mentioned the position of the cpu does not matter. its only coz of the fact that two of my stock cooler push pins were broken n its was nt able to cool the cpu in the normal position that i had to put it in the horizontal position so that the cooler sits right on the cpu without the push pins n at least prevent my proccy from melting ;-)

Oh. Innovative
 
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