Overheating problems

asingh · Sep 15, 2009

rishabh9 said:
dude the apps you have specified are windows specific. And I use linux - Ubuntu... want me to run them using wine?

Oh....yes..run them using more than one application at least to be sure.

topgear said:
@ damngoodman999 - Realtemp does not works with AMD procs so you only have to use coretemp

Sometimes mid range 3rd party coolers does not affects the idle temp as even my hyper 212 is has not reduced my procs idle temp but it works as wonder on load temps

The load temp you are getting is a bit higher - it should be between 60-65C.

As you are getting less temps when you kept opened your cabby _ i suspect it's all about bad ventilation inside cabby that is affecting your cooling performance.

BTw, what vabby do you have and how many fans you installed ?

@ Xeno - I just thought you got a replaced 160GB HDD so asked about the temp

@ rishabh9 - what's your mobos temp readings ?
CPU? MB ? Cores ?

BTW, update your mobo bios - you should believe what mobo bios is showing to you other than the sensor app.

If all fails then remount the cpu HSF using some good thermal paste.

@ rishabh9 : Yea forgot to mention this. Update the BIOS.

@ damngoodman999: did you inspect the HSF mount..like I mentioned...?..Which thermal grease you used..?

rishabh9 · Sep 15, 2009

topgear said:
@ rishabh9 - what's your mobos temp readings ?
CPU? MB ? Cores ?

BTW, update your mobo bios - you should believe what mobo bios is showing to you other than the sensor app.

If all fails then remount the cpu HSF using some good thermal paste.

The BIOS shows the following readings:

Code:

CPU Temp:    +96.0°C  
M/B Temp:    +37.0°C

and the App sensor the following readings:

Code:

CPU Temp   :    +37.0°C  
M/B Temp:    +96.0°C

My worry is that the two readings are exactly opposite! :shock:

I have already updated the BIOS to the latest available.

Any suggestions for the thermal paste to use?

Will try remounting the HSF and applying a new thermal paste, and update you guys after that.

damngoodman999 · Sep 15, 2009

Sorry asigh for late , my monitor died yesterday gave for warranty : LG stupid

same core temp says 50

then load temp on playing games is 60 , only when i use prime prime95 its 70

Then Asigh , even when i OC to 3.8Ghz the core temp was same 51-52 in idle ?? how cant understand - i downgraded to Stock BIOS , i asked gigabyte support , they told me real core temp is unpredictable , also my system / cabinet temperature is 30c i have LCD in the front , may be problem with the SENSOR there wont be difference from the CPU & core temp up to 15deg

asingh · Sep 15, 2009

rishabh9 said:
The BIOS shows the following readings:

Code:

CPU Temp: +96.0°C M/B Temp: +37.0°C

and the App sensor the following readings:

Code:

CPU Temp : +37.0°C M/B Temp: +96.0°C

My worry is that the two readings are exactly opposite!

I have already updated the BIOS to the latest available.

Any suggestions for the thermal paste to use?

Will try remounting the HSF and applying a new thermal paste, and update you guys after that.

Do not know what to say. Seems like your junctions are reporting incorrect, or are not compatible with non-windows OS. Coolermaster Fusion, or Arctic Ice are good TIMs.

damngoodman999 said:
Sorry asigh for late , my monitor died yesterday gave for warranty : LG stupid

same core temp says 50

then load temp on playing games is 60 , only when i use prime prime95 its 70

Then Asigh , even when i OC to 3.8Ghz the core temp was same 51-52 in idle ?? how cant understand - i downgraded to Stock BIOS , i asked gigabyte support , they told me real core temp is unpredictable , also my system / cabinet temperature is 30c i have LCD in the front , may be problem with the SENSOR there wont be difference from the CPU & core temp up to 15deg

Okay lets get this straight:
OC and non-OC during load your temperatures are same..???

You can have a differential of 15C going from idle ---> load, irrespective of OC/NON-OC.

damngoodman999 · Sep 15, 2009

^^ asigh look out these , this pic is OCed to 3.4 @ 1.33 V.core

*img195.imageshack.us/img195/8508/ocdesk.th.jpg

asingh · Sep 15, 2009

damngoodman999 said:
^^ asigh look out these , this pic is OCed to 3.4 @ 1.33 V.core

*img195.imageshack.us/img195/8508/ocdesk.th.jpg

Okay that is your system at idle. And at load you hit 61C..right.

I think you are fine here. Did you try a lower vCore..?

damngoodman999 · Sep 15, 2009

asigh said:
Okay that is your system at idle. And at load you hit 61C..right.

I think you are fine here. Did you try a lower vCore..?

No , the default Vcore is 1.33 & wat shall i do with we core .at stock Vcore i OCed to 3.4Ghz

125 watts TDP so Vcore should be @ 1.33 ??

asingh · Sep 15, 2009

Try lower vcore Voltages..and test for stability..?..then see temperatures..!

damngoodman999 · Sep 15, 2009

^^ ok , if i lower the Vcore if it still works - i say wen i reduce to 1.15 then if it works means then processor @ full load then will be any probs ??

asingh · Sep 16, 2009

damngoodman999 said:
^^ ok , if i lower the Vcore if it still works - i say wen i reduce to 1.15 then if it works means then processor @ full load then will be any probs ??

Yes..that is what I have been saying..for so long..to lower your vCore...

Basically for over clocking:

Maximum CPU speed + lowest vCore + stability = Successfull Overclock.

For example my system:

4.0 Ghz using 1.432V = stable = successful overclock...!

One has to increase the CPU clock via FSB change and supply extra vCore to the cores.

...If you are pushing too much voltage into the cores you will get high temperatures.
...If you are providing too less voltage to the cores you will get a system restart or system lock up.

SO

If you are able to run extensive applications at 3.5GHZ @ 1.15V then you have done it correct. NOW check the temperatures. I am sure they have gone down.

Try with voltages lower then 1.15V, and monitor your temperatures..! Let us know..!

damngoodman999 · Sep 16, 2009

^^ i ll do it ASAP !

damngoodman999 · Sep 16, 2009

Asigh

Just did it now , down to 1.18Vcore final below that restarting , but not decreased much only 3Deg reduced

topgear · Sep 16, 2009

@ rishabh9 - your mobos reporting is waht you should believe. Remount the HSF ASAP with some ood thermal paste like CM Nano Fusion or Arctic Silver or MX.

@ damngoodman999 - have you checked your system for stability with such low v-core. run prime95 or orthos atleast one hour and do post the load temps.

damngoodman999 · Sep 16, 2009

^^ topgear & asigh

Each Vcore is tested

1.18 no stability 2 hrs prime 95 restarted
1.22 hangs within half an hour Prime95

1.25 stable only @ stock speed 3Ghz

1.33 OCed to 3.4Ghz prime 95 2Hrs - 3hrs thats all time i had - stable Multiplier 17X

Asigh i have doubt , do i want increase the NB voltage in the process to increase the NB frequency
My FSB is 200 , its like frequency 5X,6X,7X - ok up to wat frequency do i need to increase @ stock NB voltage

asingh · Sep 16, 2009

topgear said:
@ rishabh9 - your mobos reporting is waht you should believe. Remount the HSF ASAP with some ood thermal paste like CM Nano Fusion or Arctic Silver or MX.

I still think there is an issue with the reporting:

1. CPU and motherboard temperatures are showing swapped at times.
2. They are way to high. 111C he would have burnt the chip.
3. Also his vCore is maxing to 3.36V. (this seems incorrect too)

@Rishabh Or it could be that..your vCore is set too high. You could lower it.

damngoodman999 said:
^^ topgear & asigh

Each Vcore is tested

1.18 no stability 2 hrs prime 95 restarted
1.22 hangs within half an hour Prime95

1.25 stable only @ stock speed 3Ghz

1.33 OCed to 3.4Ghz prime 95 2Hrs - 3hrs thats all time i had - stable Multiplier 17X

Asigh i have doubt , do i want increase the NB voltage in the process to increase the NB frequency
My FSB is 200 , its like frequency 5X,6X,7X - ok up to wat frequency do i need to increase @ stock NB voltage

No need to change the North Bridge Voltage. Only change that, if you have OC'ed and are not getting a stable system. You could say it is 'fine tuning' the system. No need to do that as of now. Could you post a screen shot of CPU-Z..when the system is stable. I want to see the details. (vcore, FSB speed, multiplier being used). Am not being able to comprehend the full picture an AMD setup. (Sorry)

Note:
Not making this an OC thread, but have a feeling the OC is causing the high temperatures for our friend D.G.Man999.

rishabh9 · Sep 16, 2009

asigh said:
I still think there is an issue with the reporting:

1. CPU and motherboard temperatures are showing swapped at times.
2. They are way to high. 111C he would have burnt the chip.
3. Also his vCore is maxing to 3.36V. (this seems incorrect too)

@Rishabh Or it could be that..your vCore is set too high. You could lower it.

How do I set the vCore? and to what value should it be set too?

asingh · Sep 16, 2009

^^
You can do it from the BIOS. Repeatedly press the DEL key (or what ever it is for your motherboard), when you start up the computer..this should take you to the BIOS.

Change the vCore to say: 1.2V. Commit the change, and exit the BIOS. Then check the temperatures.

Suggestion:
Could you update your signature with the system specifications. It is easier to understand. You can see one of our signatures for reference.

smasher · Sep 16, 2009

I have a Quad Core Q6600 at stock speed 2.4 GHZ. On load it used to reach upto 80-85*C max. I recently read in digit that dust is a major problem of overheating so i took out the stock intel fan and cleaned it with a damp cloth. On restarting the temperatures soar to 100*C on max load. What should i do? The thermal paste was about 1mm thick or something. I'll post a pic if u need it...
Pls advice. Im willing to buy a new fan under RS 2000. Would it solve the problem?? or did my cleaning remove the thermal paste??
Finally will applying thermal paste solve the problem and bring it to normal??? (i.e. 80*C max that i used to get)
And where the heck do i buy Thermal paste. Hardware stores or Electronic or Electrical stores??? I went and asked in all the three kinds of shops for Thermal paste. Niether one even seemed to know what thermal paste is............

PLEASE ADVICE...

damngoodman999 · Sep 16, 2009

^^ Dude dont take to hardware shop -- re apply good thermal paste like ARCTIC SILVER 5 / MX2

Thats enough

monkey · Sep 16, 2009

smasher said:
I have a Quad Core Q6600 at stock speed 2.4 GHZ. On load it used to reach upto 80-85*C max. I recently read in digit that dust is a major problem of overheating so i took out the stock intel fan and cleaned it with a damp cloth. On restarting the temperatures soar to 100*C on max load. What should i do? The thermal paste was about 1mm thick or something. I'll post a pic if u need it...
Pls advice. Im willing to buy a new fan under RS 2000. Would it solve the problem?? or did my cleaning remove the thermal paste??
Finally will applying thermal paste solve the problem and bring it to normal??? (i.e. 80*C max that i used to get)
And where the heck do i buy Thermal paste. Hardware stores or Electronic or Electrical stores??? I went and asked in all the three kinds of shops for Thermal paste. Niether one even seemed to know what thermal paste is............ PLEASE ADVICE...

Why don't you check www.ebay.in. You will find plenty of TIMs there. And you have discount coupon then you may get good price too.

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