Windows Explorer vs Mac OS X Finder
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@gx, settings becoming corrupt happens in Windows too (happened a couple of times for me in Opera)... For that I go to App Data\Opera and delete the folder and reinstall... In Mac, are the setting files for each app in separate folders (one for Opera, one for OpenOffice, etc), or are they all in one big folder... If they are in the same folder, it could be a bit cumbersome for the occasional case this might happen...
@aryayush, Regarding trial software, my clarification was like this... In Windows (I think this is how it is), each app is assigned an ID, a really long confusing string of hexadecimels, in the registry and through this ID it stores certain information that should not be available to the regular user. This way, the user wont be able to easily circumvent trial software expiration settings, etc... If this info is stored in file format, even if encrypted, I feel it may be easier to hack and circumvent... gx has given some details but I would rather they come from you or goobimama, etc
Regarding UltraExplorer, I just want you to check out the column view functionality of it and compare it with Finder... What features are missing, etc... If possible, I request you or goobimama to install and try it out in a Windows system/partition and inform me... I would greatly appreciate your feedback... Actually, in my Dad's office, all the staff have some guidelines to make backups... The projects are numbered from 1001 onwards and the main group folders are like Upto2000, Upto2500, Upto2700, etc and then, there are subfolders inside for each project (named 2001, 2002, etc). Inside this, they backup completed drawings. Sometimes, they put the files in the wrong folders, and sometimes they put the project folder inside the wrong group folder. So, recently, I started re-ordering the files in correct folders... But with Explorer, it involves two windows and going back and forth... On a small scale this is actually faster, but on a large scale, it is being a bit cumbersome... So, I am going to see how column view can make it easier...
Also, aryayush, just curious... You mentioned in a few posts above "if an application uses an installer for installation, it must be uninstalled the same way" regarding gx's experience with iPhoto... Does that mean there is an uninstaller included (for example, if an upgrade was available separately for iLife)? If not, what would have been the correct way to uninstall such a software...
Arun
@aryayush, Regarding trial software, my clarification was like this... In Windows (I think this is how it is), each app is assigned an ID, a really long confusing string of hexadecimels, in the registry and through this ID it stores certain information that should not be available to the regular user. This way, the user wont be able to easily circumvent trial software expiration settings, etc... If this info is stored in file format, even if encrypted, I feel it may be easier to hack and circumvent... gx has given some details but I would rather they come from you or goobimama, etc
Regarding UltraExplorer, I just want you to check out the column view functionality of it and compare it with Finder... What features are missing, etc... If possible, I request you or goobimama to install and try it out in a Windows system/partition and inform me... I would greatly appreciate your feedback... Actually, in my Dad's office, all the staff have some guidelines to make backups... The projects are numbered from 1001 onwards and the main group folders are like Upto2000, Upto2500, Upto2700, etc and then, there are subfolders inside for each project (named 2001, 2002, etc). Inside this, they backup completed drawings. Sometimes, they put the files in the wrong folders, and sometimes they put the project folder inside the wrong group folder. So, recently, I started re-ordering the files in correct folders... But with Explorer, it involves two windows and going back and forth... On a small scale this is actually faster, but on a large scale, it is being a bit cumbersome... So, I am going to see how column view can make it easier...
Also, aryayush, just curious... You mentioned in a few posts above "if an application uses an installer for installation, it must be uninstalled the same way" regarding gx's experience with iPhoto... Does that mean there is an uninstaller included (for example, if an upgrade was available separately for iLife)? If not, what would have been the correct way to uninstall such a software...
Arun
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gxsaurav
You gave been GXified
In Vista, everything user setting is in C:\Users\Appdata\Local folder. under seperate folders like Opera for only opera releated things & firefox for only firefox settings. Just delete this folder & settings will be automaticly set to default.sakumar79 said:
In Mac, settings files are inside Library folder on Mac HD, & not at one place or unified. I recommend you to read the other thread why Mac OS X is inferior to windows when it comes to application uninstallation.
On Vista, we have native Windows Installer 3.1, in that thread I again mentioned why it is so good on Windows enviroment & how it makes it easy to upgrade software without even closing them.
Applications in Mac *.app are self contained. They have there own libraries bundled & also the contain any file they require inside them including the trial information. This can be tempered with as many cracked apps I am using for Mac were changed using this method.
He only knows about Mac OS from Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger days, actually any macboy here knows it from tiger days only
. Statement like "No Mac user needs to install iLife" is stupid. Arya like I said, go tell this to someone who is running Mac OS X 10.3 Panther.If there is no uninstaller then you will need to use 3rd party application like AppZapper or Spring cleaning which I use here. They will check & remove almost all the files.
iMav
The Devil's Advocate
1 more frakin foolish thing in os x finder is that suppose u wanna open a certain file through a compatible program ...
u start the program:
os x:
u browse for the file, while browsing finder will show u all the files & folders that are there in the folder u are whether they are compatible with the program or no it will show u
windows:
when u r browsing it gives u the option of choosing which files u wanna see ... if u r browsing thru paint or ps ... u get a drop down which allows u to choose whether all files/pngs/gifs watever ... but jobs felt it wud be better to show u all files ...
and as far as applications are concerned ... drag n drop it will still copy the files needed coz it will install the application to 1 directory only tht is where ur os is... and windows is much better it allows u to choose which directory u want the application to be installed ... so the drag-n-drop actually reduces the capability of an installer ...
ps: i know this will have the mac genius arya again pwned so he wont reply ... he hasnt replied to the posts whr iv pwned him before and this is no different
heres something more ... trash .... well windows' recycle bin is much better it allows u to choose from within it the files u wanna permanently delete ... unlike in trash there is no such option ... if its emptying trash it empties the whole thing ... again i would prefer an option ... which again only windows' provides
heres something more ... the great search tool embedd in every window ... theres no way of stopping a search mid way .... even if what u want has been found it will still keep on searching the whole folder
u start the program:
os x:
u browse for the file, while browsing finder will show u all the files & folders that are there in the folder u are whether they are compatible with the program or no it will show u
windows:
when u r browsing it gives u the option of choosing which files u wanna see ... if u r browsing thru paint or ps ... u get a drop down which allows u to choose whether all files/pngs/gifs watever ... but jobs felt it wud be better to show u all files ...
and as far as applications are concerned ... drag n drop it will still copy the files needed coz it will install the application to 1 directory only tht is where ur os is... and windows is much better it allows u to choose which directory u want the application to be installed ... so the drag-n-drop actually reduces the capability of an installer ...
ps: i know this will have the mac genius arya again pwned so he wont reply
... he hasnt replied to the posts whr iv pwned him before and this is no different heres something more ... trash .... well windows' recycle bin is much better it allows u to choose from within it the files u wanna permanently delete ... unlike in trash there is no such option ... if its emptying trash it empties the whole thing ... again i would prefer an option ... which again only windows' provides
heres something more ... the great search tool embedd in every window ... theres no way of stopping a search mid way .... even if what u want has been found it will still keep on searching the whole folder
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gxsaurav
You gave been GXified
iMav said:
thats the mac way...lolz. Now I really wonder how is this convenienceIn Windows, right clicking & empty trash cleans it completely.
heres something more ... the great search tool embedd in every window ... theres no way of stopping a search mid way .... even if what u want has been found it will still keep on searching the whole folder
Let me check, in Windows either clicking on the stop button or pressing the escape keys stops the search. Escape should work in Mac too
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gxsaurav
You gave been GXified
You can still open the trash, select the files u want to delete & press command + backspace to delete those files from trash.
Now, I do wonder how Mac OS X is more convenient when using 2 keys to delete a file when in Windows we just press the Delete key on keyboard.
Now, I do wonder how Mac OS X is more convenient when using 2 keys to delete a file when in Windows we just press the Delete key on keyboard.
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gxsaurav
You gave been GXified
I just checked, both Windows & Mac methods are good enough
1) OS X - It will show u all files, but u will be able to select only those files which the application opens
2) Windows - It gives u an option toshow only those files which u need.
Idiot user
1) Mac - Why can't I select my other files?
2) Windows - OMG...Holy **** where did my files go
iMav
The Devil's Advocate
the problem with showing files is that if ur file is way below u will have to scroll all the way but in windows it only shows the folders and the selected file type ... which makes finding the file quicker now some mac boy will come and say use the search feature which actually dumb ... but then again once pwned thoroughly they dont come back
goobimama
Macboy
Well if you look at it, as GX said, an idiot in Windows would be like "Where did all my files go?" (I know one, my brother). There are some who like it the way it is, what they are familiar with. Someone uses Explorer to organise files and when using the dialog box, finds all things a wee bit different (convenient, but different).
While with OS X, you get to see all your files, exactly the way they are, with a prominent "Recommended files" or All Files at the top. It is pretty easy to make out whether the files can be opened or not...
EVEN IF THIS IS A MAJOR FLAW IN OS X, which it is not, it doesn't suddenly make Windoze better than OS X
While with OS X, you get to see all your files, exactly the way they are, with a prominent "Recommended files" or All Files at the top. It is pretty easy to make out whether the files can be opened or not...
EVEN IF THIS IS A MAJOR FLAW IN OS X, which it is not, it doesn't suddenly make Windoze better than OS X
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