Vista is still the most secure OS to date.

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iMav

The Devil's Advocate
oh well we accept faults but not crap like drm drm drm ... ;)

din said:
If windows media player is not working for you, and you are blaming Microsoft for that, I think you are right. Reason is, its a product of microsoft.

When Xine or any other media player is not working in Redhat Linux (just example), and you blame Redhat for that, I think that is not right. The product is not that of Redhat and Redhat does not force you to install it (it is optional)
so which post mnakes u think any of us does that ...
 
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praka123

left this forum longback
Dude!DRM is not crap,it's sh!t on ur ;) .just know it before justifying DRM.
DRM is against user freedom.it is born due to capitalism uncontrolled in US and developed countries(not all!).the companies think they can do anything to poor id!ot users-results are DRM,soon there will be brain patented by ballmer and gates,all US citizens need to get a brain implant from M$FT etc.. reality that is.
So in some capitalist countries u see a single human is not respected by any(although laws will boast this) but corporations which amass $$$ in large.so $=justice is right in US as it even allows a OS to bundle DRM!
But let me clear U neither am a communist as i came from a state ruled by Marxist :D and know the "virtues" of leftism.see the things with independent view,not a fanboyish one.
for ppl viewing the thread pls see:
*defectivebydesign.org
 

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
im not justifying drm but ur continuous blame on ms & vista for drm drm drm drm, its a company it has its reasons why would ms want to jeopardise its sales use ur brain and dont post like a fanboy .... at the end its customers who will buy if drm starts affecting them big time the customer will shift to OSS thank ms for putting drm coz it might just help ur cause

but ur limited sight doesnt let u see beyond vista and drm drm drm ....

the bottom line is if drm is bad ms will loose sales so it has to be something really big for ms to put drm and gamble ;) praka use ur rational senses if u havent lost em ;)
 

din

Tribal Boy
iMav said:
so which post mnakes u think any of us does that ...

Oh man, I am not into OS war, I already mentioned.

Well,

iMav said:
coz when u say that an error generated in linux is not linux's fault but in windows is windows' fault u just showed ur intention about ms ...

I made it very clear, even with a simple example. I meant blaming Linux (or even Win) for third party software fault is not right.

And you are telling (quote above), you know my intention !!

It will be really nice if you re-read my post.

@all others - sorry for the off topic, but I couldn't resist posting as my friend took things in a wrong way.
 
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anandk

anandk

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WINDOWS VISTA 6-MONTH VULNERABILITY REPORT *www.csoonline.com/pdf/6_Month_Vista_Vuln_Report.pdf

hope its not a repost ...
 

kumarmohit

Technomancer
praka123 said:
do u know that Vista bundles DRM?

Praka dude, I was just wondering why you linked to Badvista.org which only projects opinion of foss community instead of pointing to *en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management which presents a comparatively objective information about DRM.
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PS: I know DRM sux big time. please dont flame me for supporting it.
 

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kumarmohit said:
Praka dude, I was just wondering why you linked to Badvista.org which only projects opinion of foss community instead of pointing to *en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management which presents a comparatively objective information about DRM.
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PS: I know DRM sux big time. please dont flame me for supporting it.

Because he has been appointer a PR for FOSS.
 

gxsaurav

You gave been GXified
Microsoft is a computer OS company. If they want to sale there product & make money which can play TV then they must support the DRM which TV Channels use.

If they don't support it then consumers won't be able to play TV in Media center. They will loose a market.

TV Channels want people to see TV whether in Computer or TV. If it is TV, they use set top box. If it is computer then the OS must support DRM imposed by TV companies.

If MS tries to force non-DRM over Hollywood, well...TV companies don't care, however Consumer wants to play TV in there computer which means MS gives such a feature, & to give such a feature they must follow the rules.

The consumer is always free not to use MCE, & use some 3rd party application which removed DRM from TV feed. For these they either have to use hacks or cracks.

Every consumer is not a geek. Not everyone cares for DRM. They just want to see TV on there computers & record the playboy TV shows :D

Is it wrong for MS to comply by the rules & support a feature to sale there OS & make money?
 

praka123

left this forum longback
Zeeshan Quireshi said:
i guess accorking to prakash , making money from software is a sin .
when did i said,u r again spreading FUD.U and I verywell know that OSS can be used for profit.why again FUDing man? :-|
Infact what do Redhat,IBM and other companies do?they are in software business but with OSS as their sales.yes.subscription model will be the base for most OSS developers,not the other way "30-day magic" -which proprietory companies are spreading-which again leads to the tendency to get warez and cracks hence a BIG reason for piracy.
what else i'd say?get a life maaan!:p
The web site Follars.com was created to answer the trillion dollar question: “How can companies make money from open source software?”. Follars stands for Free, Open SourceDollars.

Free & open source software (FOSS) is changing the business rules of the software industry at a pretty good pace. It is an interesting paradigm, and appears to be a worthy competitive business model to the closed/proprietary business models that have held sway so far. However, the question that has dogged practically everyone in the FOSS domain is that of making money. Well, perhaps it is not a trillion-dollar-question, may be it is only a billion-dollar-question, oh all right, if you insist, at the very least it is a million-dollar-question for many companies.

The idea behind Follars.com is to collect at one place all the insights, thoughts and resources for the problem of making money from free & open source software. No doubt, some companies (such as Red Hat, for instance) have started making a reasonable amount of revenues, but still many feel that we have a long way to go before we can feel confident that there is a sustainable revenue model for FOSS. There are a number of bright minds and exceptional companies that are putting their thinking caps for this.
*www.follars.com/
 

QwertyManiac

Commander in Chief
gx_saurav said:
:Yawn: Prakash & his advertisements
When you don't have anything to say after your subnormally intelligent comments on things which are beyond your medium of understanding, please try to understand that its not so necessary to hit the Submit Reply button. Its okay to type the post and take a screenshot and keep it in your 'Ignorantly Happy Replies' folder.
 

QwertyManiac

Commander in Chief
Yes, cause you don't bother to read it at all, judging from your replies. Advertisements? Meh. Some interpretation.
 

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
well how about drm drm drm drm i hate ms coz they drm drm drm drm in vista ... drm drm drm drm yash raj introduced drm drm drm drm music for countries other than india then also its ms fault coz they hav drm drm drm drm in vista
 

Zeeshan Quireshi

C# Be Sharp !
Prakash , i would prefer one-time payment anytime to subscription .

And Win XP also includes technical support with it , so if you cut the technical support cost , i think the price of OS will be considerably low :)
 

din

Tribal Boy
WOW

155 replies, thread that went to 8 pages, heated up discussion !!

Now how many replies are related to the topic title - atleast somewhat related - Vista is still the most secure OS to date ?

and how many are personal attacks, irrelevant, no way related to the topic etc ?

LOL !
 

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
din all i can say to u is welcome to thinkdigit.com/forums ... ur new to this place and hence arent aware of how members hate MS and are ready to hijack any thread to bash it ;)
 
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