MetalheadGautham
AFK
correction: the blogger lies
1. 8600GT is in no way decent by todays standards. Try runniung crysis
2. I think hr already has some gaming ;laptops, so he will be better off with mb basic
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2. I think hr already has some gaming ;laptops, so he will be better off with mb basic
MetalheadGautham
AFK
exactly the reason why I said MacBook Basic
goobimama
Macboy
Crysis on Macbook Pro: *www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dcXCdrnbbI
What?! I can't argue with this. You make it seem like the Macbook Pro has no purpose for existence in this world.exactly the reason why I said MacBook Basic
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MetalheadGautham
AFK
crysis runs on MBP, I agree. It even runs on GMA X3000. But not at "crysis quality", which can be achieved only on cards like HD3870XT, 8800GT, etc.
MBP makes the best buy if the person who wants to buy it is a huge apple fan and prefers to use apple as his main hardware and has no other better configuration laptops. For all others, there is MacBook basic.
[mb = macbook basic]
mb can run maya, final cut studio pro, iwork, ilife, etc successfully and comfortably
mb can run simpler games like ut2k4, urt, doom3, gta san andreas, etc successfully and comfortably
mb consumes lesser power than mbp, and is smaller, so its more portable, and only if you carry your mac around can you show it off to those who have never seen one before.
mb is much more cheaper than the mbp and the money saved is better off when invested elsewere.
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so why MBP ?
While guys like you, ayyush, ashwin, etc are better off buying MBP instead of MB, guys like him who want a macbook for the sake of having one and to flaunt a product thats a bit "different" from the normal ones, the most basic is enough.
PS: whats the price of MB in US during Black Friday ?
goobimama
Macboy
What?! I can't argue with this. You make it seem like the Macbook Pro has no purpose for existence in this world.exactly the reason why I said MacBook Basic
MetalheadGautham
AFK
yes it does.
lots infact.
As you may have read on my prev post, MBP is not for everybody.
And why are you this much over enthusiastic about people getting MBP ? Is it the ultimate laptop or something ?
PS: lets leave it to the kid to decide what he wants to buy. Hell, he has two 8800GTX and a QuadCore machine. He will have no trouble getting even 2 MBPs.
SunnyChahal
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Gaming on laptops is a foolish thing to do because:
1.I already have a decent gaming rig.
2.I hate playing FPS's with touchpad,it is very frustrating!
Almost all games except crysis run at max settings on 8600 GT.I owned one till dec 07.
moreover,I have no gaming plans on MBP.If I ever feel like playing games on it,I have both vista and XP to install on bootcamp
1.I already have a decent gaming rig.
2.I hate playing FPS's with touchpad,it is very frustrating!
Almost all games except crysis run at max settings on 8600 GT.I owned one till dec 07.
moreover,I have no gaming plans on MBP.If I ever feel like playing games on it,I have both vista and XP to install on bootcamp
MetalheadGautham
AFK
You have already told me all this and lots more when I tried to help with your ubuntu installation problem.Gaming on laptops is a foolish thing to do because:
1.I already have a decent gaming rig.
2.I hate playing FPS's with touchpad,it is very frustrating!
Almost all games except crysis run at max settings on 8600 GT.I owned one till dec 07.
moreover,I have no gaming plans on MBP.If I ever feel like playing games on it,I have both vista and XP to install on bootcamp
But I didn't get one thing:
do you plan to keep the mbp as the only laptop you have or do you have another laptop ?
and what are your plans for it ?
do you want 17" screen or 15" screen or 13" screen ?
SunnyChahal
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See,i hate laptops when it comes to gaming coz I cant play first person shooters with touchpad as I can do with mouse.I don't have any lappy,its my dad who owns 2.I am going to buy 17" MBP.
goobimama
Macboy
Oh I love the macbook. I think it is perfect for most people. What was bothering me was this fixation you had with the MacBook Pro and Gaming. That's not the purpose of the macbook Pro.
And FYI, you try running Logic, Final Cut Studio on a Macbook (FCS2 doesn't even run on a macbook).
Pathik
Google Bot
You can use a USB mouse.Gaming on laptops is a foolish thing to do because:
1.I already have a decent gaming rig.
2.I hate playing FPS's with touchpad,it is very frustrating!
Almost all games except crysis run at max settings on 8600 GT.I owned one till dec 07.
moreover,I have no gaming plans on MBP.If I ever feel like playing games on it,I have both vista and XP to install on bootcamp
MetalheadGautham
AFK
If thats the case, stick with the macbook pro.
And yes, if, *if*, you ever change your mind about using a mouse instead of a trackpad, you might want to concider the Dell XPS m7130.
For 20k lesser than the 1.25 lakh mbp(17" model), you get
8700 mGT 256(or 512) mb GDDR3 X2 SLI
4 GB RAM
200 GB 7200 RPM HDD
Core2Duo T9300
Agea Physx Accelator
this baby can easily run OSX and its apps, either installed or in VM, and seriously kicks a$$. So you might again want to concider it. Its also 17", like the MBP. And it looks evil from the front, with awssome graphics/design on the lid.
So if you ever think of replacing the multi trackpad, glowing buttons and better looking screen with extra money in your pocket and an a$$load of extra performance, do conicder this.
That said, from what Ayyush tells me, Apple Computers have a moderately decent resale value. So you can still sell the 1.25 lakh MBP for 1.1 Lakh after 6 to 9 months, and hence you can get an opportunity to try the dell xps after you buy the mbp too.
But the system requirements said that MB was enough for them...
And the processing power differnce is not really TOO great. MB has the processing power of a modern mid range to high end PC. Only the GPU is weak.
And once again, for a person who is not exclusively a mac user, who runs Windows, Linux and Mac, and who has a gaming rig at home, how much ever you try to disprove it, or resist it, he will naturally try to game on his laptop at one point or the other. Its human tendency; and you needn't try to teach me about them. Desires of humans can be understood only if you experience them.
I love USB mini Mice
I got screwed by my Dad's laptop. It was horrible, really a big pain in the fingers. I couldn't even edit text doccuments comftably using that sick thing people call track pad.Watching someone play with a trackpad is the funniest thing! This girl had brought her MacBook over to play UT2004 with the guys. I offered her a mouse, but she refused. Looked really funny aiming and such with the trackpad! And I must say, not half that bad a gamer
SunnyChahal
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T9300 I guess is a penryn quad and 8700GT an OEM GPU and I don't know much about both of them.However,I know quite a lot a about C2D and 8600GT(personal experience which was quite pleasant).The C2D in MBP is also penryn which might well solve the heating issues
goobimama
Macboy
Please don't compare a trackpad of any other laptop with a Mac. They are a world apart.
It is also a human tendency to grow out of gaming. Poor me, I didn't realise that. I bought a 7900GT and put in additional RAM only to find I can't game for more than 10 minutes.
In any case, one is never an exclusive user until one gets a mac. Suddenly everything else seems pointless and you just get on with doing what you love to do.
Again, the macbook is NOT for pro uses. First of all its screen is too small for something like FCP or Logic, no graphics, no digital sound output (the pro has got a digital IN as well), FW800 ports, No expresscard slot, No Mallika Sherawat, and that beautiful illuminated keyboard. The MacBook is very good for regular college users, or people who don't do more than just use a computer.
Also, is that the correct model number of the DELL you have just mentioned? Cause I entered it into Google and this thread shows third in the list...
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