SunnyChahal
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I'm already running crysis on highest settings on my PC so,there is no fun of playing the same game on a lappy.Instead get a mac n try something new
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aryayush
Aspiring Novelist
OK. This obviously needs some intervention.
1. Neither Apple nor Macenstein (the blog) lied about the earphones. He accidentally put the earphones in the washing machine, after which they spent an hour in a dryer and yet they worked perfectly fine after all that, including the microphone. All the commenters in that entry had similar experiences. I used the word “indestructible” myself. It doesn't literally mean that you cannot destroy it. I can rip it apart with my hands and it won't be quite so indestructible after that. The point is that they seem to be pretty durable, enough to withstand more than its average share of wear and tear, and then some. No one lied; the problem was with your perception.
2. You guys don't actually know the meaning of the phrase “value for money”. I've seen hundreds of discussions on this forum and I know it from experience that for 99% of Digit forum members, value for money is equal to cheap. The cheaper a product is, the more value for money it is considered to be. But that's not what the phrase actually means.
The more expensive 20-inch iMac configuration is considered more value for money. Why? Because it offers more bang for your buck. The extra features it has make the additional $300 it costs seem trivial. Similarly, a Rs. 60,000 notebook will always be more value for money for you guys than one that costs in excess of Rs. 1,00,000, but if you take into consideration the fact that it comes with a considerably more damage resistant enclosure, Multi-touch trackpad, backlit keyboard with ambient light sensors, much better configuration in every aspect, is slightly thinner and looks far more appealing, the higher price markup doesn't seem all that unreasonable anymore.
3. That's not to say that the MacBook isn't a good notebook. It is. If portability is the prime concern, you should go for the MacBook. If you're on a limited budget, the MacBook is king. However, it's scratch (and crack) prone enclosure and tiny screen are deal breakers for me. It's definitely a good notebook but it's not even in the same league as the MacBook Pro.
4. Gaming and Mac do not fit in the same sentence. Sunny1211993 doesn't want a notebook for gaming. I wouldn't recommend a Mac if he did. And your theory that once he has the notebook, he'll want to game is one of a non-Mac user. I give it six months. Once he gets seasoned to Mac OS X, turning that Windows PC on and launching a game will seem like a chore to him. Six months or less.
5. @Sunny1211993, you can do one of two things: you can either buy a Mac or listen to Indian geeks. Both of these do not go hand in hand. If you've decided to buy a Mac, go ahead and do it. Listening to people here is not going to change anything. The only ones who'll tell you not to buy it are the ones who haven't had a chance to properly use one themselves (if at all). If you're still confused, then by all means ask around. But asking what the cake was like to the guy who wasn't invited to the party isn't going to get you anywhere.
6. There is no such thing as a MacBook Basic.
Enjoy.
1. Neither Apple nor Macenstein (the blog) lied about the earphones. He accidentally put the earphones in the washing machine, after which they spent an hour in a dryer and yet they worked perfectly fine after all that, including the microphone. All the commenters in that entry had similar experiences. I used the word “indestructible” myself. It doesn't literally mean that you cannot destroy it. I can rip it apart with my hands and it won't be quite so indestructible after that. The point is that they seem to be pretty durable, enough to withstand more than its average share of wear and tear, and then some. No one lied; the problem was with your perception.
2. You guys don't actually know the meaning of the phrase “value for money”. I've seen hundreds of discussions on this forum and I know it from experience that for 99% of Digit forum members, value for money is equal to cheap. The cheaper a product is, the more value for money it is considered to be. But that's not what the phrase actually means.
The more expensive 20-inch iMac configuration is considered more value for money. Why? Because it offers more bang for your buck. The extra features it has make the additional $300 it costs seem trivial. Similarly, a Rs. 60,000 notebook will always be more value for money for you guys than one that costs in excess of Rs. 1,00,000, but if you take into consideration the fact that it comes with a considerably more damage resistant enclosure, Multi-touch trackpad, backlit keyboard with ambient light sensors, much better configuration in every aspect, is slightly thinner and looks far more appealing, the higher price markup doesn't seem all that unreasonable anymore.
3. That's not to say that the MacBook isn't a good notebook. It is. If portability is the prime concern, you should go for the MacBook. If you're on a limited budget, the MacBook is king. However, it's scratch (and crack) prone enclosure and tiny screen are deal breakers for me. It's definitely a good notebook but it's not even in the same league as the MacBook Pro.
4. Gaming and Mac do not fit in the same sentence. Sunny1211993 doesn't want a notebook for gaming. I wouldn't recommend a Mac if he did. And your theory that once he has the notebook, he'll want to game is one of a non-Mac user. I give it six months. Once he gets seasoned to Mac OS X, turning that Windows PC on and launching a game will seem like a chore to him. Six months or less.
5. @Sunny1211993, you can do one of two things: you can either buy a Mac or listen to Indian geeks. Both of these do not go hand in hand. If you've decided to buy a Mac, go ahead and do it. Listening to people here is not going to change anything. The only ones who'll tell you not to buy it are the ones who haven't had a chance to properly use one themselves (if at all). If you're still confused, then by all means ask around. But asking what the cake was like to the guy who wasn't invited to the party isn't going to get you anywhere.
6. There is no such thing as a MacBook Basic.
Enjoy.
iMav
The Devil's Advocate
OK. This obviously needs some intervention.
NO. People here are well aware & literate enough to know which product is VFM and which is not, "cheap" as you call it is not considered VFM, but cheaper and yet as efficient if not more, is what is considered VFM, please note I have used cheaper, which indicates in comparison to something.
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aryayush
Aspiring Novelist
It's a bit off-topic but since the first and second prizes are iPods, I guess it qualifies to be posted here.
Check out Copyblogger's Twitter Writing Contest, guys. Not only does the first place winner take home an 8GB iPod touch, it's fun to come up with an entry for the competition. I would especially love to see Milind take part in it. I'm sure you could come up with something much better than my entry. Others are welcome to participate too.
Check out Copyblogger's Twitter Writing Contest, guys. Not only does the first place winner take home an 8GB iPod touch, it's fun to come up with an entry for the competition. I would especially love to see Milind take part in it. I'm sure you could come up with something much better than my entry. Others are welcome to participate too.
iMav
The Devil's Advocate
jamesbond007
MacManiac
goobimama said:
God damn you Goodi ... that is very insulting!!! I have been using computers for over 9 years now, used laptops for over 4 years, have run all kinds of OSes that you have heard of, run apps from all genres, have a high end PC, have a powerful laptop ( VGN- FS38GP was among top laptops when my bro purchased it ).... there must be one hell of a reason why I've sticked to my MacBook!!! [fuming like hell]
The problem with MacBook is its name, its higher end sibling has got 'Pro' suffix and we tend to damn everything that ain't pro
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aryayush
Aspiring Novelist
It's not about that. The MacBook is for people looking for a portable form factor on a tight budget, MacBook Air is for those who want the most sexy notebook in the biz and don't mind shelling out the extra cash and for rich businesspeople who want the most handy notebook out there and the MacBook Pro is for the ones who want to go all-out, the ones looking for a desktop replacement and are on a large budget.
That's how the line-up is defined and nothing Milind or I can say is gonna change that. No one is saying anything against the MacBook. It's Apple's best selling Mac, man—that's gotta count for something.
That's how the line-up is defined and nothing Milind or I can say is gonna change that. No one is saying anything against the MacBook. It's Apple's best selling Mac, man—that's gotta count for something.
goobimama
Macboy
James Bhaiyya. I have always been for the MacBook. I don't mind the plastic and I like the white looks. But you can't expect me to say the MacBook is fine for pro users, cause its not. The graphics card, sound options, (and a few of those things I mentioned) are a must for a pro user. Photoshopping, writing, watching movies, ripping and converting stuff, running dozens of apps together, can all be done on the MacBook without a problem. That is what a college student does. I hope you don't intend on doing any professional films or use the Macbook for cutting a studio quality album, cause that's not going to happen.
If it wasn't for the Air, I would have 'wanted' to go in for a Macbook.
If it wasn't for the Air, I would have 'wanted' to go in for a Macbook.
jamesbond007
MacManiac
Ha ha ha ..... that was fun, I'd buy a MacBook Pro someday but definitely after I get an iMac 24.
SunnyChahal
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Aaah!Dad decided to buy MBP from Delhi only ,so no mac till tuesday.Poor me
MetalheadGautham
AFK
Dear Ayyush,
you needn't tell me what is good or what is bad. Its Sunny's choice, and I fully encourage him to do what he wants with his money. If he thinks green glow keys and multi track touch pads along with white colour are cool, I have no trouble.
But please don't try to reinforce your views on macs down everybody's throat. Because VFM does not mean cheap. It means Bang For The Buck. Its like Intel Pentium Dual Core E2160. Its VFM. But celeron and E2140 are cheaper. But that does not make celeron VFM(it never is) or E2140 more VFM than E2160.
But I hope you would have realised that Sunny is not the type of person looking for VFM stuff. to begin with, he has 8800GTX SLI, which is the least VFM setup ever.
And one more thing, I have read enough law to conclude that there is enough freedom to use a product a person buys to use in any personal way and you can't stop him from doing that in India. Notice: using mac on a non apple hardware for commertial perposes is still mostely illegal. But I am 99% sure that its completely legal to buy a macintosh OS copy and install it on your own computer and use it personally in any way.
you needn't tell me what is good or what is bad. Its Sunny's choice, and I fully encourage him to do what he wants with his money. If he thinks green glow keys and multi track touch pads along with white colour are cool, I have no trouble.
But please don't try to reinforce your views on macs down everybody's throat. Because VFM does not mean cheap. It means Bang For The Buck. Its like Intel Pentium Dual Core E2160. Its VFM. But celeron and E2140 are cheaper. But that does not make celeron VFM(it never is) or E2140 more VFM than E2160.
But I hope you would have realised that Sunny is not the type of person looking for VFM stuff. to begin with, he has 8800GTX SLI, which is the least VFM setup ever.
And one more thing, I have read enough law to conclude that there is enough freedom to use a product a person buys to use in any personal way and you can't stop him from doing that in India. Notice: using mac on a non apple hardware for commertial perposes is still mostely illegal. But I am 99% sure that its completely legal to buy a macintosh OS copy and install it on your own computer and use it personally in any way.
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aryayush
Aspiring Novelist
I’ll read it and get back to you.
It’s Aayush.
No Mac has anything like “green glow keys”.