Suggest CPU configuration under 20k

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swan

Broken In
brother even gta (gta iv) is a very cpu intensive game
and yes by encoding i mean encoding movies , some adobe photoshop, python etc

No i am not going to encode movies. The system is going to be used by my younger cousin and he has specifically put the requirements to that he should be able to run windows 8 and a few games . Although i am not considering his request for windows 8 but i hope it'd be able to run it in future and if it doesn't fit in budget leave windows 8 :wink:

and i think graphics card can be bought an year later. what do you guys say ?
 

panwala95

In the zone
i think you are correct
but remember this buying a super fast processor and no gfx card will not allow your cousin to play most games so it is usually recommended to buy a balanced rig
 
OP
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swan

Broken In
i think you are correct
but remember this buying a super fast processor and no gfx card will not allow your cousin to play most games so it is usually recommended to buy a balanced rig

Hmm i know but what to do i have got budget constraints.

Then i am not considering upgrading the system for next 3-4years once i am done with this expenditure of 20K except for the graphics card.

So if i'll spend on graphics card at present then later on i think i'll have to change the processor and motherboard as well. what do you say ?

Moreover i am getting confused with so many suggestions or in a +ve way.....so much support :razz:

Please suggest something final considering i do now want to spend money again in next 4 years. Requirements are windows 7 (If it can support windows 8 that'll be bonus ) and occasional gaming ( GTA, NFS).
 

panwala95

In the zone
ok your wish here is the updated rig-
i5-3450-11k
intel dh61ww-2.5k
cm elite 361-2.3k
wd caviar blue 500gb-3.5k
corsiar cx 430-2.3k
corsiar value 1x4gb-1k
total-22.6k
 
OP
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swan

Broken In
ok your wish here is the updated rig-
i5-3450-11k
intel dh61ww-2.5k
cm elite 361-2.3k
wd caviar blue 500gb-3.5k
corsiar cx 430-2.3k
corsiar value 1x4gb-1k
total-22.6k


Hehe now this is totally a new one...anyone else would like to add something here
 

panwala95

In the zone
you can even try a trinity config and add a hd 6670 later but youll have to wait cause trinity mobos arent available in india yet...........
 

panwala95

In the zone
Hmm i know but what to do i have got budget constraints.

Then i am not considering upgrading the system for next 3-4years once i am done with this expenditure of 20K except for the graphics card.

So if i'll spend on graphics card at present then later on i think i'll have to change the processor and motherboard as well. what do you say ?

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he said he doesnt need a graphic card
 

Cilus

laborare est orare
Look, for gaming, the INTEL i3 3220 along with B75 chipset Motherboard based configuration is best. There are certain CPU intensive games where the Non-HT Pentium G645 takes a big hit in performance. The latest game Far Cry 3 is perfect example of it. At 1080P resolution, the G645 was more than 15 FPS lower than i3 3220 and 2120 when paired with a powerful Graphics card. Also B75 based motherboards are far better than H61 based ones and the extra 1 to 1.5K you pay for it is well justified. It offers high speed and higher capacity Ram support, better build quality, more number of expansion slots, necessary features like USB 3.0 and SATA III 6 Gbps support.

However, one problem with future proofing with Intel rig. Intel is going to launch their Hashwell processors next year which will be based on a complete new socket, LGA1150. So none of the current generation platforms will be compatible with it.

Now I am giving you an configuration based on AMD's Trinity, the latest APU. I think you're aware that APU stands for Accelerated Processing Unit which packs a powerful CPU and a very powerful IGP inside a single silicon die. The IGP of Trinity Processors can match the performance of a 4K discrete Graphics card. Also the flagship Trinity Processors A8-5600K and A10-5800K are quad core processors, offering almost same gaming performance as an i3 3220 and better multi-tasking capabilities.

AMD A10-5800K (3.8 GHz, 4 Cores, 4MB L2 + 8 MB L3) @ 8.4K (Flipkart)
ASUS F2A85-M-LE @ 5.7K (smcinternational.in)
Transcend JetRam DDR3 8 GB PC RAM (JM1600KLH-8G) (8GB X 1) (5 years warranty) @ 2.35K (Flipkart)
Corsair CX 430V2 @ 2.7K
CM Elite 361 @ 2.35K (Flipkart)


Total: 21.5K.
 

panwala95

In the zone
However, one problem with future proofing with Intel rig. Intel is going to launch their Hashwell processors next year which will be based on a complete new socket, LGA1150. So none of the current generation platforms will be compatible with it.
see @ cilus no plaform is futureproof for long ,lga 1155 goes out this year,fm2 may go the next
so the real question does the op want a powerful multipurpose rig(intel) or just a day to day + casual gaming rig (trinity)
the balls in your court you decide
 

Cilus

laborare est orare
No there is a term called future proofing and I am not telling you based on guess
fm2 may go the next
AMD has already confirmed that their next generation APU, Kaveri will be supported in FM2 platform.
 

topgear

Super Moderator
Staff member
the only available good Trinity APU ie 5800K is overpriced in here and getting a A85 mobo around ~6k makes the whole platform too much costly ( ~14k CPU+Mobo ) granted the APu has a decent gfx core but i3 3220 + H61 mobo is available for only ~10k and once Op is gets ( later though ) a decent gfx card sticking with Intel config looks more perfect like the saying Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet !
 

Cilus

laborare est orare
But TP, H61 motherboard is equivalent to a FM2 A55 chipset motherboard which is available at almost same price point, at marginally higher price point. If OP goes for a 3220 + Intel B75M combination then it will cost him around (7.3+ 4.3)K= 11.6K. Now with Trinity, he can get almost same CPU performance in gaming with a discrete GPU, better multithreaded performance and a very good graphics card, almost equivalent to a HD 6570, currently available around 4K.
 

Minion

Conversation Architect
Look, for gaming, the INTEL i3 3220 along with B75 chipset Motherboard based configuration is best. There are certain CPU intensive games where the Non-HT Pentium G645 takes a big hit in performance. The latest game Far Cry 3 is perfect example of it. At 1080P resolution, the G645 was more than 15 FPS lower than i3 3220 and 2120 when paired with a powerful Graphics card. Also B75 based motherboards are far better than H61 based ones and the extra 1 to 1.5K you pay for it is well justified. It offers high speed and higher capacity Ram support, better build quality, more number of expansion slots, necessary features like USB 3.0 and SATA III 6 Gbps support.

However, one problem with future proofing with Intel rig. Intel is going to launch their Hashwell processors next year which will be based on a complete new socket, LGA1150. So none of the current generation platforms will be compatible with it.

Now I am giving you an configuration based on AMD's Trinity, the latest APU. I think you're aware that APU stands for Accelerated Processing Unit which packs a powerful CPU and a very powerful IGP inside a single silicon die. The IGP of Trinity Processors can match the performance of a 4K discrete Graphics card. Also the flagship Trinity Processors A8-5600K and A10-5800K are quad core processors, offering almost same gaming performance as an i3 3220 and better multi-tasking capabilities.

AMD A10-5800K (3.8 GHz, 4 Cores, 4MB L2 + 8 MB L3) @ 8.4K (Flipkart)
ASUS F2A85-M-LE @ 5.7K (smcinternational.in)
Transcend JetRam DDR3 8 GB PC RAM (JM1600KLH-8G) (8GB X 1) (5 years warranty) @ 2.35K (Flipkart)
Corsair CX 430V2 @ 2.7K
CM Elite 361 @ 2.35K (Flipkart)


Total: 21.5K.

This is lot better it also let your cousine play games.
 

The Incinerator

Human Spambot
At this point and time getting a H61 is nothing but shortchanging when buying a new computer. Honestly why will I buy something that dosnt have a lot of native supports while the newer B75 offers them, but the B 75 is expensive and he has a budget. And then he dosnt want to add a GPU but want to play games. So in this case a Trinity is the way, IMO.
 

topgear

Super Moderator
Staff member
But TP, H61 motherboard is equivalent to a FM2 A55 chipset motherboard which is available at almost same price point, at marginally higher price point. If OP goes for a 3220 + Intel B75M combination then it will cost him around (7.3+ 4.3)K= 11.6K. Now with Trinity, he can get almost same CPU performance in gaming with a discrete GPU, better multithreaded performance and a very good graphics card, almost equivalent to a HD 6570, currently available around 4K.

got your point but Op needs "Mainly internet surfing and light games occasionally" and he said : "Then i am not considering upgrading the system for next 3-4years once i am done with this expenditure of 20K except for the graphics card"

So I focused more on gaming performance, power saving, saving bucks ( i3 2120 and H61 mobo costs only 9.5k or even less ) for decent a gpu upgrade say a HD7770 later at-least where the saved bucks on the cpu+mobo will come handy and you know that the gpu core of 5800k ( even with CFed with HD6670 ) just can't cope with gpus like HD7770 or higher - on the other hand the intel combo is suitable enough for Op's needs now and for gaming - AMD should have added support for more gpus ( at-least upto HD7770 ) to run with A10/A8 Apus gfx core in Hybrid mode.
 
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swan

Broken In
thanks to all of you especially topgear,incinerator,cilus,Thetrueblueviking,panwala95

i finally decided to go with I3 3220 AND GIGABYTE motherboard :)

A big THANK YOU to all you guys :)
 
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