Store 325+ songs in 1 gb card in full quality .

[expertno.1]

I KNOW all that you just said! I am just saying that i cannot feel that the SBR and PS are being decoded by my N70! That's it!

and i had told earlier that it will only decode sbr part of .m4a ......and which converter are you using ? which file you are playing ?




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[kalpik]

Im using dbpoweramp only, with the Nero Codec.

 

[expertno.1]

^^which bitrate you tested ...... ? and did you forced HE-aac or LC-aac ? please clarify everything !


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[kalpik]

I tested at 64 kbps.. Tried all.. LC, HE, HE v2.. All sound same..

 

[expertno.1]

I tested at 64 kbps.. Tried all.. LC, HE, HE v2.. All sound same..

dude at 64 kbps he-aac and he-aac v2 have same quality.....refer ma above posts....

and dude LC would dound somewhat bad ...u can listen hissing in background....did you use speakers (mobile) or headsets ....

and here in this..... we are getting awesome song quality at he-aac between 64-80 kbps.....did you got any quality difference from mp3 of 128-160 kbps and he-aac of 64-80 kbps in you mobile ?


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[dead]

hey expert bro you are absolutely right !

i played 128 kbps of mp3 of linkin park - numb in ma n70 and 64 kbps of he-aac .4a file of this songs in my mobile and didn't got any quality differece (heard in headsets and speakers too) you rock buddy !

and the two files you uploaded xd_m4a and xd_mp3 have very very high difference in quality , xd_m4a sounds 10 times better than sx_mp3 with stereo quality and no treble loss

@kalpik

you are either doing something wrong or you are just troubling expert by saying lie. i have N70 and i tried experts tut step by step and amd getting awesome quality sound .

and oggplay is awesome too !


good word EXPERT !

hats off to you !

put more tut like this

now i can store 350 songs in full quality .yipppppppyyyy !!!!!

 

[kalpik]

No difference from MP3.. I can hear the hissing sound.. I use EP-630 with my N70.

 

[expertno.1]

yep....no difference in quality of mp3 128 kbps and .m4a he aac of 80 kbps ...finally.......

phew...........

dont try lc-aac at lower bitrates i.e from 64-80....you will get hissing sound

@dead
hope evryone too try like you and dont post their own stufffs and say "its not working"

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[kalpik]

Oops.. I mean it sounds same as MP3 of 80 kbps.. Anyway.. OGG AoTuV at 64 kbps sounds MUCH better than HE-AAC at 64 kbps.. Why don't you try it once?

 

[expertno.1]

@kalpik
i am sorry bhai .........i did a big mistake of explaining you the new tech.......go use your mp3 and be happy........

@edit:- /ogg


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[dead]

^^what happened bhai ?
i have tried and tested it and is working for me.dont be upset .


@kalpik

why are you telling false
what you get ?
why are you not accepting whn expert had made the things clear and right

and i have tried ogg autov.it sound heck bad at 64 kbps
and 64 m4a kbps sounds similar to 140 kbps of mp3 and all

expert is right
you are telling lie why ?

 

[kalpik]

^^ Cause i love to lie :-S

@expertno.1: Again MP3! Im not taking about MP3! Im talking about OGG AoTuV. Also, i've noticed that OGG requires less processing power.

 

[expertno.1]

yup your mp3 or ogg whatever.......
how can ogg beat technology such as SBR and PS ?

since HUMAN EAR is the judge .....i get .m4a of 80 kbps h3-aac far better than mp3 and ogg autov

ogg autov is some months old i had tried it both in mobile and pc its just a little improvement over ogg vorbis and theora .....

get encoding speeds faster than ogg autov using ogg lancer (same as autov but optimized for faster encoding)

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[dead]

@kalpik.i think that you dont have a hard heart to correct yourself and thats it.
no use of explanation.

yup your mp3 or ogg whatever.......
how can ogg beat technology such as SBR and PS ?

since HUMAN EAR is the judge .....i get .m4a of 80 kbps h3-aac far better than mp3 and ogg autov

ogg autov is some months old i had tried it both in mobile and pc its just a little improvement over ogg vorbis and theora .....

get encoding speeds faster than ogg autov using ogg lancer (same as autov but optimized for faster encoding)

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Expertno.1

ogg lancer .
heard about it.

but i agree that your PS and SBR wins both practically and theretically.

 

[expertno.1]

@kalpik .....dead is saying that he has got the quality and the difference between the codes we debated on....why aren't you getting ?

he too using N70
lol .....how much n70 users here ? three in this page only .....

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@expertno.1

please keep posting such kind of tuts
your tut is right what it says

 

[expertno.1]

Thanks bro......at least there are some people who are doing it correctly and getting the thing.......practically and theoretically ......i liked this.....and yep its true in both the cases !!


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[dead]

If Digit Testers would test these modes for us i am sure that you will stand correct ...

 

[kalpik]

*www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=35438

• AAC-HE (Nero, CBR 80 “high”): very disappointing score, for this format claimed to be a killer at low bitrate. 80 kbps is probably excessive for AAC-HE, now that AAC-LC implementation are getting better and better (take a look again on POOL#1, and see how AAC-LC have progressed). AAC-HE doesn’t suffer from any lowpass, but the SBR layer is highly impure, and seems to interfere with the lowest part of the spectrum. As result I get constant artefacts, noticed with more than 90% of the tested samples. AAC-HE has a maybe CD spectrum, but it’s like if a cricket was directly screeching in my headphones. Personally, I would consider something poorer (with audible lowpass and some ringing) as better that this (un)constant parasitical noise. Just a personal appreciation; other people might prefer the opposite – I don’t know. AAC-HE also have *big* troubles with attacks (pre-echo) and fine details (smearing), even more audible than simple MP3. AAC-HE would probably more pertinent at lower bitrate, for which other contenders would probably be in pain.

• AAC-LC (iTunes, CBR 80): poor results. I’ve expected something better, a bit more suitable for listening with portable player. Quality is not *that* bad (just compare to MP3 or WMA for reference), but there are too often irritating distortions. Lowpass is also annoying, at least on ABCHR conditions (with direct comparison with a full quality reference file), probably less perceptible on common earbuds (I’ve tried, and quality suddenly became much less irritating).

• Vorbis (aoTuV beta 4, VBR –q 0,9): this is by far the most enjoying thing I’ve heard at this bitrate. I was highly surprised by results I’ve got with the 150 classical samples; I was literally astonished by the final score obtained with the 35 remaining samples! Vorbis is obviously an amazing tool at this bitrate. Or differently: Vorbis apparently embed some encoding tools (point stereo?) which are remarkably suited for this bitrate (but which are maybe interfering too much at higher bitrate: see this test and this test).
Quality is not perfect of course; usual vorbis problems are here: noise boost, coarseness, fatness. Distortion (vibrating effect) on long tonal notes also occurs. But these issues are limited (at least compared to other mutilations produced by other encoding tools at this bitrate) and I would say that Vorbis at this bitrate could be pertinently used for portable playback by people which are not excessively hard to please and more interested to maximize the capacity of their flash memory digital player. It’s too bad for me that vorbis performances are not as good with classical as with “various music”. But even on this “Achilles’ heal”, vorbis outperforms current other encoding tools.

 

[expertno.1]

if they test



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