Sony Xperia 2014 discussion Thread

arsenalfan001

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Was checking the following link just out of curiosity: *www.zauba.com/import-d5503/p-1-hs-code.html
Seems the import price / piece of Xperia Z1 compact is around 18.6k.
Currently its sold for 32-33k.

Compare that to Moto G, import price for 16GB model is 10,645 and is sold for 14k.

Some margin, eh!

PS: I am interested in getting a Z1 Compact, however, I will wait, patiently, after seeing this.
 

arsenalfan001

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^So you waiting for 15k reduction ? :p
It's currently available for 33k locally.

Not at all. But it should be around 27-28K.
In EBay its available for 31k with manufacturer warranty - with a coupon gets even better I guess.

BTW Sujoy, does those numbers I have mentioned. means anything - any idea?
Reason I am asking is, Lumia 520, I got that for 7299 from FK and imported for 7464.
 

dashing.sujay

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Not at all. But it should be around 27-28K.
In EBay its available for 31k with manufacturer warranty - with a coupon gets even better I guess.

BTW Sujoy, does those numbers I have mentioned. means anything - any idea?
Reason I am asking is, Lumia 520, I got that for 7299 from FK and imported for 7464.

The cheapest S800 phone I guess is Nexus 5, at 27k. And Z1 compact is by far a much better device. So ~30k would be a good price, 27k-28k being a steal.

I too was waiting for it since it's first inception. Now waiting for price reduction; will surely buy it.

Regarding import price, that's something which works under the table. Distributor, retailer and all the middleman have their commissions, apart from Sony's margin, plus taxes. Plus Sony's pricing strategy is always stringent.
 
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rish1

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The cheapest S800 phone I guess is Nexus 5, at 27k. And Z1 compact is by far a much better device. So ~30k would be a good price, 27k-28k being a steal.

I too was waiting for it since it's first inception. Now waiting for price reduction; will surely buy it.

Regarding import price, that's something which works under the table. Distributor, retailer and all the middleman have their commissions, apart from Sony's margin, plus taxes. Plus Sony's pricing strategy is always stringent.

i disagree at least in smartphones sony was the best in pricing last year in 2013 .. from xperia M to Xperia Z1 all phones were in the "bang for the buck" territory, crushing competition easily..

this year its a complete U turn t2 ultra is the first device that is overpriced at the moment.. i think what happened with t2 ultra is bad assembling with specs... the cpu and ram are complete entry level to mid rangers .. but they have paired it with a very good high end camera.. ( basing it on the pics leaked ) so in short its a mid range phone with an expensive camera.. lumia 1320 .. think of it as lumia 1320 + high end camera

so that extra premium is for the camera. this is a stupid decision since they can't price it in the territory of lumia 1320 because of expensive cost in manufacturing.. and pricing it for 30k for 1gb ram and Cortex A7 cpu is just plain dumb and laughable.. so they are stuck now.. this phone is going to see a crazy price drop soon in 1 month i expect it to come down 25k in 1 month just like what happened with desire 700..

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Was checking the following link just out of curiosity: *www.zauba.com/import-d5503/p-1-hs-code.html
Seems the import price / piece of Xperia Z1 compact is around 18.6k.
Currently its sold for 32-33k.

Compare that to Moto G, import price for 16GB model is 10,645 and is sold for 14k.

Some margin, eh!

PS: I am interested in getting a Z1 Compact, however, I will wait, patiently, after seeing this.

Don't compare it with moto G .. low end phones have very low margins as they are expected to make profit by volumes whereas expensive phones are sold less in volumes so they have to have high margins.. add to that moto G isn't relying much on advertisement directly.. very few middlemen and hardly any sales efforts are required and this is not expected to drop in price too much as the time goes by.. all flagships phones cost about 200-250 $ to make for OEm but still they are sold for 700-750$ each

Regrading lumia 520 it was being sold at loss by microsoft/nokia so that they can gain market share for windows phones had they not followed this strategy windows phone would have been declared dead by now... outside lumia 520,620 windows phone has been a big flop
 

dashing.sujay

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rish said:
i disagree at least in smartphones sony was the best in pricing last year in 2013 .. from xperia M to Xperia Z1 all phones were in the "bang for the buck" territory, crushing competition easily..

Well, I meant the same.

Some sets were definitely priced bang for buck (like M,L), but not every.

Z1 C price is just OK, more towards pricier side, if not very pricey or genuinely priced.
 
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rish1

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Well, I meant the same.

Some sets were definitely priced bang for buck (like M,L), but not every.

Z1 C price is just OK, more towards pricier side, if not very pricey or genuinely priced.

i was talking about 2013.. z1 c is 2014.

Xperia E - 9k and xperia C - 19k ( this one was normally priced nothing special about it, C being a weird first mediatek based phone from international oem) but rest phones were literally bang for the buck there was no competition specs and price wise.. i remember even z1, z ultra were expected to launch for 50k before launch..
xperia Z - 38 k ( s4 - 42k )
Xperia M- 12k ( galaxy core - 13k )
xperia L - 16k ( galaxy quattro - 16k )
Xperia SP - 22k ( nexus 4 - 26k , galaxy grand - 19k , s4 mini - 24k ) - best cheapest gaming beast
Xperia ZR- 28k ( better than nexus 4 , was best phone under 30k at that time
Xperia Z ultra - 44k ( note 3 - 49k)
xperia Z1 - 44k

only lg g2 was neck to neck against z1

Z1 c is 35k currently and i agree it is not the bang for the buck like above phones but there is no phone like it to gauge the price.. it is a unique phone.. if somebody wants a powerful compact phone only z1 c is the option

lets see how m2 will be priced..
 

dashing.sujay

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Z1 c is 35k currently and i agree it is not the bang for the buck like above phones but there is no phone like it to gauge the price.. it is a unique phone.. if somebody wants a powerful compact phone only z1 c is the option

The reason being the huge anticipation it's getting.

I don't remember for how long was I waiting for this phone. Only leaks used to come.

I'm surely going to buy this, a bit late though.

PS: Already persuaded one to buy this over N5 . ;)

PPS: Idealistic price of M2 should be 18k max, launch price may lie around 19-20k.
 
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rish1

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The reason being the huge anticipation it's getting.

I don't remember for how long was I waiting for this phone. Only leaks used to come.

I'm surely going to buy this, a bit late though.

PS: Already persuaded one to buy this over N5 . ;)

PPS: Idealistic price of M2 should be 18k max, launch price may lie around 19-20k.

i don't think z1 c will be dropping soon at least not for 4 months .. you could get 1 for 31k by applying coupons and waiting for a deal but i don't think it will fall below that so easily considering cortex a7 is crossing 30k range nowadays :lol: :p

yeah m2 18k would be great above leaked suggested 22k price though hope it will be wrong

btw i was just going through recent news and just found out .. htc desire 816 has been priced for only 290 $ in china.. that is one hell of a pricing ... damn its too good to be true.. if this can seriously come for even 23k ( 370$) htc will come back to profitability this year... but somehow i feel it will also be launched for 30k + like t2 ultra..
 
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dashing.sujay

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At 22k, no doubt it will gain good sales but it will only lure those either looking for a good camera phone preferably from HTC.

Hardware should have been bumped though, at least the adreno 320, 305 for 720p should be avoided,
 
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rish1

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At 22k, no doubt it will gain good sales but it will only lure those either looking for a good camera phone preferably from HTC.

Hardware should have been bumped though, at least the adreno 320, 305 for 720p should be avoided,

trust me i too am pissed off by this shitty adreno 305.. the biggest failure for mwc 2014 was not samsung s5 but i think it was qualcomm and the biggest winner is mediatek..

i am so frustrated with qualcomm this year the problem is they don't have any good chip for 1st half of 2014 for midrangers..

OEM can't use old chips with adreno 320 like xperia SP,nexus 4 ( as they have been discontinued) the new chips are cortex a7 with the same old adreno 305 gpu.. so right now they only have adreno 305, and adreno 330, adreno 420( high end only)

adreno 405 will arrive by october/november.. till then only gpu is adreno 305 for low end , mid ranger and semi high end...
so there is no difference in gaming performance between a 7000 rs lumia 520 and 30,000 rs t2 ultra/ htc desire 816 and all the phones from 10,000 to 25000 will sport adreno 305 .. so in contrast last year phones will be so much better than this years phones like xperia sp, moto x, zr etc... and they will be cheaper

i dropped the plan of buying a phone right now just because of this stupidity by qualcomm
my next target is mediatek 6732/6752 chip this one will be the monster with an almost adreno 420/tegra k1 like performance for cheap phones ( 15-20k )... with its mali t760 gpu - 326 gflops estimated..

just hoping sony,htc would use this chip

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/technolog...nces-mt6732-64-bit-chipset-massssive-gpu.html
 
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Looks like these indian sites are fooling everyone. There is no anncoucement about its official release in international market.

Everytime I search for this device on Saholic Website . It will provide you a delivery date which is 4 days ahead of today. I started looking into this website since March 9, 2014. That time it was providing a delivery date of 14th March. That means by 14th March it should be available. But even now when you serach for this device in Saholic Website and select buy, it will say, stock not available
 
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rish1

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Looks like these indian sites are fooling everyone. There is no anncoucement about its official release in international market.

Everytime I search for this device on Saholic Website . It will provide you a delivery date which is 4 days ahead of today. I started looking into this website since March 9, 2014. That time it was providing a delivery date of 14th March. That means by 14th March it should be available. But even now when you serach for this device in Saholic Website and select buy, it will say, stock not available

Xperia T2 ultra prices in russia

Sony Xperia T2 Ultra Dual Coming to Russia by the End of March for

dual version - 485 $

single sim one might be 460$

prices in russia are generally higher .. so i am expecting a 27000 RS launch price just like Xperia SP last year... hmm.. its a 50-50 kind of decision at that price.. suited for those who want a great camera with large screen ( general public ) not recommended for power users and such...
 
Xperia T2 ultra prices in russia

Sony Xperia T2 Ultra Dual Coming to Russia by the End of March for

dual version - 485 $

single sim one might be 460$

prices in russia are generally higher .. so i am expecting a 27000 RS launch price just like Xperia SP last year... hmm.. its a 50-50 kind of decision at that price.. suited for those who want a great camera with large screen ( general public ) not recommended for power users and such...

This statement hurts

"Sony is yet to announce whether the smartphone will be released for India"
 
You should get used to it.

I am pleased now

*www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&e...=VxCOYcuG75aRaZhDLSfwhg&bvm=bv.62922401,d.bmk

*www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&e...=I0R9-fj3TEoN8U-Fi4J-AA&bvm=bv.62922401,d.bmk

I hope the overall quality specially the camera is good. Given that you can't take anything granted for something at such an affordable price. What do you guys think about the quality? I consider Lumia 1320 to be a low quality device.
 
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