Samsung Galaxy S II

ithehappy

ithehappy

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@Hrithan2020- SGS is a good phone, undoubtedly. But it never can be compared with SGS II. SGS II is a way better device and more than worthy upgrade. In brief, SGS II has 1080p Video recording, 1GB RAM (Double of SGS), Dual Core A9 Processor (Compare with single core A8 of SGS), Bigger screen (Yes of same resolution of SGS, but that's more than enough), 8MP Camera with LED Flash (Compared with a Non Flash 5 MP of SGS), SUPER AMOLED PLUS (Compared with S-AMOLED of SGS, though I don't think it's a huge update), NFC Support and etc etc.

Here is the comparison of them, in a single line, SGS II will outdate and defeat SGS by a huge margin. :)

Samsung I9100 Galaxy S II vs. Samsung I9000 Galaxy S - GSMArena.com
 
Soumik

Soumik

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@Hrithan2020 - SGSII does have industry leading hardware. Samsung's implementation of ARM based procs were best last time, and i bet they are the best this time round too. Probably first benchmarks would proove that. And its already noted that Mali 400 is quite ahead of Tegra 2 ULP geforce.Its got the highest ram so far, along with Atrix. It probably would beat anything else in the market for screen quality. So, for the moment, SGS II would have the best hardware in the market.
If you are talking about future, yes, it would be overtaken before end of this year. TI OMAP 4430 would be used very soon. Not iPhone 5 certainly. Also dual core snapdragons with Adreno 220 would also be coming out this year.
But for now, SGS II is the clear winner.. just like SGS was during its launch :)
 
evewin89

evewin89

In the zone
The 1st time when i saw this phone on "gsmarena" i was very thrilled. and i made my mind to buy this one if it cost around 25k to 27k but now i think i have to stick with my old samsung SGH-E-490 which still looks new (though lacks many featured of current gen phones) but i'll definately buy this phone if its price comes down.
 
kalpik

kalpik

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Re: Samsung Galaxy S-II(GSM-Arena)

Hrithan2020 said:
@kalpik,
Your sources have been wrong. (The one which I remember now, for instance,is your source saying gingerbread for SGS phones by Feb mid? Even now, no 2.2.1 released in India .. :( )..
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When I speak about ROM releases, I don't speak about India specifically.. And for GB, I had said it will be out in March.. And sure enough, it is out ;)
 
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Hrithan2020

In the zone
Re: Samsung Galaxy S-II(GSM-Arena)

@ithehappy,
Dude, obviously. SGS II should be in every way better than SGS. I was comparing SGS with its peers. (It wasn't until the tegra 2 phones, that SGS's graphics capabilities were overtaken)

However, SGS II when it launches won't stay much ahead of its peers.



Soumik said:
@Hrithan2020 - SGSII does have industry leading hardware. Samsung's implementation of ARM based procs were best last time, and i bet they are the best this time round too. Probably first benchmarks would proove that. And its already noted that Mali 400 is quite ahead of Tegra 2 ULP geforce.Its got the highest ram so far, along with Atrix. It probably would beat anything else in the market for screen quality. So, for the moment, SGS II would have the best hardware in the market.
If you are talking about future, yes, it would be overtaken before end of this year. TI OMAP 4430 would be used very soon. Not iPhone 5 certainly. Also dual core snapdragons with Adreno 220 would also be coming out this year.
But for now, SGS II is the clear winner.. just like SGS was during its launch :)
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Actually ,previous time also , it (ARM implementation) wasn't the best. It lacked true [128-bit ala Snapdragon Processors.] NEON support,(the primary reason the jump to Froyo, didn't come with huge performance jump in Benchmarks. It was with the SGX 540 , that SGS stood tall. (SAMOLED screen also certainly helped ;) )

In terms of initial performance impressions of SGS II, have a look at these:
Samsung's Galaxy S II Preliminary Performance: Mali-400MP Benchmarked - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

LG Optimus 3D Preliminary Performance - OMAP4 Tested - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

I'm not talking about it being overtaken by end of year, it would be much earlier.
Also, if iPhone 5 manages to have similar SPECs to iPad 2 , it will have class-leading performance for a while:

Apple iPad 2 GPU Performance Explored: PowerVR SGX543MP2 Benchmarked - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

kalpik said:
When I speak about ROM releases, I don't speak about India specifically.. And for GB, I had said it will be out in March.. And sure enough, it is out ;)
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Of course, I didn't mean India. I couldn't find the exact post I was referring to,(don't have time). But, in this post, you seem to say it was in Feb.

Anyway, leave it. And it is not out yet ;) (Well, not officially)
 
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kalpik

kalpik

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Re: Samsung Galaxy S-II(GSM-Arena)

Haha.. I am connected to Samsung devs through some contacts.. So I can only tell when the ROM is ready.. When Samsung releases it where is mostly a business decision ;)

Also, its normal for projects to get delayed.. So even if I said Feb, and its out in March, its really not a big deal :)
 
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Hrithan2020

In the zone
@kalpik,
Yeah not a big deal, but having heard from you about the possibility of a gingerbread release, I was at least hoping for a 2.2.1 official release in India by March !! (Not for me, but for few of my friends, who are very hesitant to do rooting/loading a custom ROM! )..
 
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Hrithan2020

In the zone
kalpik said:
Hmm.. Yeah.. I think they skipped 2.2.1 for India :(
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And ,if XXJVK is any indication, I will be disappointed with the official release :( .
(Maybe , it's because now, I have become used to custom ROM's , but the new 2.2.1 releases seems to be much smoother compared to the XXJVK.. But, then again the latter releases of 2.3.3 ought to be much better :) )
 
kalpik

kalpik

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Hrithan2020 said:
And ,if XXJVK is any indication, I will be disappointed with the official release :( .
(Maybe , it's because now, I have become used to custom ROM's , but the new 2.2.1 releases seems to be much smoother compared to the XXJVK.. But, then again the latter releases of 2.3.3 ought to be much better :) )
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JVK has been smooth so far.. And things will only get better :) Anyway, we are going offtopic now!
 
Soumik

Soumik

Padawan
@Hrithan2020 - True. It does seem Gingerbread running Exynor cant keep with Froyo running OMAP 4430. :'( This saddens me really. I had high hopes for samsung.
 
kalpik

kalpik

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Soumik said:
@Hrithan2020 - True. It does seem Gingerbread running Exynor cant keep with Froyo running OMAP 4430. :'( This saddens me really. I had high hopes for samsung.
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Don't go by current benchmark apps.. They are not optimised for the quad core GPU that the Mali400 is! The Mali400 GPU is better than the GPU inside XBOX 360 ;)
 
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Hrithan2020

In the zone
kalpik said:
Don't go by current benchmark apps.. They are not optimised for the quad core GPU that the Mali400 is! The Mali400 GPU is better than the GPU inside XBOX 360 ;)
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True. Having heard rumours that it was quad core, I was stunned to see it perform so low. Expected it to perform at least faster than Tegra 2 . Let's hope you are correct!!

But, considering that Sony NGP has a SGX 543 MP4+, and it advertises the GPU to be as fast as the PS3 or XBOX 360, I find it hard to believe that, Mali400 which right now is struggling against Tegra 2 (from what you say, there will be a huge performance jump, hopefully at least competitive with SGX 543 MP2, which iPad2 comes with) can lay that claim ? ( Most likely it is because of the rumoured 450 M TPS, provided Samsung's claims are true, which comes near X Box 360's 500 MTPS and surpasses PS3's 250 MTPS)
 
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kalpik

kalpik

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Well, its all a waiting game right now my friend! Let the phones launch, and let us get decent reviews :) But I'm betting on Samsung.. They are known to put the best hardware in their phones.. And let me tell you, there is a reason for that.. If you see *any* phone (even the iWhat), most of the internal components are from Samsung.. So you see, they save the best for themselves ;)
 
Soumik

Soumik

Padawan
kalpik said:
But I'm betting on Samsung.. They are known to put the best hardware in their phones.. And let me tell you, there is a reason for that.. If you see *any* phone (even the iWhat), most of the internal components are from Samsung.. So you see, they save the best for themselves ;)
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Thats y i hope samsung SGSII will be the best phone for the time being. :) And would be beating iPhone5 in benchmarks :D.
 
Anorion

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Im not sure how the AMOLED screen compares to the retina display on the idevices. The screen is cut pretty close to the surface on the S. The prices at retail outlets (reliance/ croma etc) is very competitive compared to prices for the same devices abroad, a lot of hardware is cheaper here actually
 
kalpik

kalpik

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Anorion said:
Im not sure how the AMOLED screen compares to the retina display on the idevices. The screen is cut pretty close to the surface on the S. The prices at retail outlets (reliance/ croma etc) is very competitive compared to prices for the same devices abroad, a lot of hardware is cheaper here actually
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Yep.. Samsung devices are usually cheaper in India :)
 
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