Samsung Galaxy 3 vs LG Optimus One

[coderunknown]

all LG O1 owners & those who planning get one in future. a small BAD news: LG Optimus One P500 won't be getting Gingerbread update.

i didn't liked that news at all

 

[me1]

all LG O1 owners & those who planning get one in future. a small BAD news: LG Optimus One P500 won't be getting Gingerbread update.

i didn't liked that news at all

???
I should of waited for aria to be launched. I was looking for this phone last month..but sadly no one knew when or if it will be launched here...
Oh well..

 

[coderunknown]

& price? it maybe priced high & how can you say Aria will get gingerbread? it too mayn't get as it isn't highend.

but i not need gingerbread, if LG (or some LG fanboys, developers) can deliver honeycomb

 

[me1]

I checked the link...
I think the phone will get the update. Don't see any reason why it wouldn't and just as written in that article you posted..whoever is posted on facebook is not well informed.

You know a few days back, there were some misinformed idiots strolling on youtube saying that Galaxy3 will not get froyo update thus misleading everyone else..including me(yeah..I can be stupid sometimes ..well, most of the times)
But Galaxy3 is getting its update now, or probably already has.

 

[coderunknown]

i sure if this news gets public (already had), O1's sales will take a tremendous blow. mayn't stop & surely won't but will cost them in millions. LG is idiot or what? never seen a company spell out such classified info before. truly, one have to ask himself, was LG joking? or is it overproud/jealous of itself or someone hit LG on its head (had LG been a human)?

 

[me1]

Sam, Aria is a better phone, better than wildfire. If launched we get a 5mp camera, HTC brand, and a good resolution. I am assuming it wont be priced more than wildfire. Its launched by at&t in us as their first htc android phone..low range phone, so i guess its a good low range phone..not priced more than wildfire.

Edit: I know, at&t launch is not reason enough for it be a good low range htc phone, but review say that its better than wildfire and it might not cost more than wildfire.

Anyway, I don't regret I have the optimus one..
any phone will be outdated over a period of time..there's always something better launching...in some time we all might have to move on to better phones. For now, what we have here in india is good.

 

[coderunknown]

I checked the link...
I think the phone will get the update. Don't see any reason why it wouldn't and just as written in that article you posted..whoever is posted on facebook is not well informed.

hope your words comes true but anyway, see. SE Xperia was launched way earlier, got 2.1 just a week ago. when others are getting 2.2-2.3 (Nexus 1 got). so LG even if it doesn't get 2.3, i don't think its a big loss, until LG releases new firmware or some hybrid firmware that further increases battery life (i would love to enjoy 3 days of moderate usage).

but i don't think anyone can just post on Facebook. its not a user, but a page. a page maintained by LG through which communicates with most users (not everyone follow LG blogs or mobile news). so if its true, LG will get Idiotic award of 2010. if its false than worst joke of 2010.

You know a few days back, there were some misinformed idiots strolling on youtube saying that Galaxy3 will not get froyo update thus misleading everyone else..inclucing me(yeah..I can be stupid sometimes ..well, most of the times)
But Galaxy3 is getting its update now, or probably already has.

no. G3 will get froyo update & it was confirmed by Samsung. so even if Indian G3 didn't got the update, it'll later, maybe early next yr.

but same has been done by LG. they themselves told (that facebook page belongs to LG) O1 won't get gingerbread. this is truly ridiculous. now only Samsung need to say that G3 "may" get 2.3.

but 1 thing i noticed is, LG told O1 won't get gingerbread update (they may skip gingerbread & head for honeycomb as its a major update). & GSM Arena expanded it by saying, neither gingerbread or any future updates (which they mean honeycomb, icecream, etc). i think GSMArena too did some kind of mistake here. wish its a mistake on part of LG or GSM arena.

but yes, if LG lowers price to 11-11.5k as compensation for not getting 2.3 update, i think most will be delighted.

Sam, Aria is a better phone, better than wildfire. If launched we get a 5mp camera, HTC brand, and a good resolution. I am assuming it wont be priced more than wildfire. Its launched by at&t in us as their first htc android phone..so i guess its good!

Edit: I know, at&t launch is not reason enough to be good, but the reviews say its good.

ok, so heres the estimated price of Aria here:
LG O1 = 12.5k
HTC brand = 2-3k.
5Mp camera = 1.5-2.5k
good resolution = 2k-3k
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TOTAL: 12.5k + 5.5k-8.5k = 18-21k.

SO, is 18k in any sense falls in budget section? HELL NO. if 21k? better i stick to O1 or G3 or anything of that kind.

a 18-21k mobile bound to be good. but for me & most fellow Indians, it'll make a big hole in their pocket. also i planning get O1 if i find it for 12k (my budget. i am poor )

Anyway, I don't regret I have the optimus one..
any phone will be outdated over a period of time..there's always something better launching...in some time we all might have to move on to better phones. For now, what we have here in india is good.

i think you made a good decision buying it. cause in GSM Arena's review a few points they mentioned caught my attention:

1. first page. look at the advantage & disadvantage list. advantage is many. disadvantage is next to none. & frankly, you won't get a good mobile with so much features & good build quality for less than that price. some sacrifice have to be made.

2. title. 1 & a half mobile. i not sure what that means but i feel its getting 1.5mobile for price of 1. no better way to describe the value of a mobile.

3. last page. did they told any mobile was/is better than it? NO. LG O1 is close to perfect. the mobiles that beat it (somehow) are all 20k mobiles. even LG Arena failed beat it. when i was reading the review, it surprised me most. no competitor was able get close (10-15k).

so, i don't think when boss (GSM Arena) says its good, why should listen to others or try expand those minor flaws into another controversial issue

 

[me1]

Sam, aria will not be priced 18-20k because people would rather take Desire.
As for optimus one being available for 12k. I think you could still get that for 12k, if you bargained. try! If you want to wait for a month..the price might fall further..i am only guessing. Then again, a better phone might be launched..
I think you should just buy whatever you find impressive now and ofcourse whaever is in your budget now, because anyways, even if we buy the current best phone..it will only remain the best until something else is launched.
I wonder why this debate is still going on. Is it so hard to understand? Galaxy 3 had its moment..then came optimus one..next will be something else...
One doesn't have to be better than the other, and sometimes its only a matter of personal choice.
Also, when we have many choices, there can be more than one right choice.

 

[coderunknown]

Sam, aria will not be priced 18-20k because people would rather take Desire.

maybe HTC will offer Aria for a bit less. even if its priced at 17k, in no way it can be compared to O1. O1 is a budget handset so can't even run flash context, no cam flash, camera is ONLY 3.2Mp, screen is small (3.2" only). resolution is low.

and from the H/W info you told me, Aria looks like a O1 killer & will be priced like one.

As for optimus one being available for 12k. I think you could still get that for 12k, if you bargained. try! If you want to wait for a month..the price might fall further..i am only guessing. Then again, a better phone might be launched..

i have no option but to wait for Christmas time (exam going on).

I think you should just buy whatever you find impressive now and ofcourse whaever is in your budget now, because anyways, even if we buy the current best phone..it will only remain the best until something else is launched.

i like LG O1 only good HW & software for good price.

I wonder why this debate is still going on. Is it so hard to understand? Galaxy 3 had its moment..then came optimus one..next will be something else...
One doesn't have to be better than the other, and sometimes its only a matter of personal choice.
Also, when we have many choices, there can be more than one right choice.

i'll say like this: "jis android mobile ka koi update nehi hota, usko XDA forum ka support hota hain" if they can port 2.3 to wildfire, one can port 2.3 to O1 also. but i waiting for Cryogenic mod. hope they adopt O1 also (currently only highend mobiles in their hit list).

 

[me1]

i have no option but to wait for Christmas time (exam going on).

i like LG O1 only good HW & software for good price.

Well, if you like it, go ahead, buy it. Good for me, I can bother you with my silly issues with using the phone..since we both will have same phones
Not trying to convince you into buying the aria, just wanted to say, it maybe even lesser than wildfire because it does not have radio. Its a low end phone even in Europe.

i'll say like this: "jis android mobile ka koi update nehi hota, usko XDA forum ka support hota hain" if they can port 2.3 to wildfire, one can port 2.3 to O1 also. but i waiting for Cryogenic mod. hope they adopt O1 also (currently only highend mobiles in their hit list

There is also the Phandroid forum and Android forum. Don't know if they help in technical issues, rooting and stuff..I haven't really looked through the forums.
Well, I don't understand a lot of technical stuff so I don't bother with it.
I don't know what cryogenic mod is and there are lot of technical stuff discussed in this thread, that went over my head.
Like i said in one of my posts in my other thread, I am not tech savvy. Infact, I am tech-ignorant(if that is even a word).

 

[noobdroid]

Darn it even I am trying to get the phone in price range of 11-12k.... I am trying to get from a friend on a dealer price lets see what he has to offer.

 

[coderunknown]

Well, if you like it, go ahead, buy it. Good for me, I can bother you with my silly issues with using the phone..since we both will have same phones
Not trying to convince you into buying the aria, just wanted to say, it maybe even lesser than wildfire because it does not have radio. Its a low end phone even in Europe.

than........ its a good mobile but mayn't be for me. my no.1 priority is battery. most of day time i not at home & browse net+music. camera is of lowest priority. so a good backup is really necessary. also i don't like HTC mobile's looks. all look the same. same design on almost every mobile.

There is also the Phandroid forum and Android forum. Don't know if they help in technical issues, rooting and stuff..I haven't really looked through the forums.
Well, I don't understand a lot of technical stuff so I don't bother with it.
I don't know what cryogenic mod is and there are lot of technical stuff discussed in this thread, that went over my head.
Like i said in one of my posts in my other thread, I am not tech savvy. Infact, I am tech-ignorant(if that is even a word).

first time heard that name "phandroid".

Like i said in one of my posts in my other thread, I am not tech savvy. Infact, I am tech-ignorant(if that is even a word).

 

[tejaslok]

just read this comment in gsm arena

--Tim Meader Also Dan Morrill of Google just updated on twitter with the following (LG's info on this is bogus): "Random note: there's no hard minimum processor requirement for Gingerbread. Trust me, if there were I'd know. " and followed-up by, "Android has never had hard processor reqmts, tho older devices do fall behind. GB H/W needs are similar to Froyo". I don't qualify a 3 week old phone as "old". If LG does, it's their own fault for releasing such outdated hardware (which runs Froyo BEAUTIFULLY however) and passing it as a new phone.
Hace 15 horas

so LG may not get 2.3 officially but we can thru XDA

 

[coderunknown]

^^ yup. told so in his twitter page. now lets see if LG makes any announcement or provides any statement for such an announcement/reply.

 

[DigitalDude]

LG pulls back, 'will evaluate' upgrading Optimus series to Gingerbread when specs and source code are public -- Engadget





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[NainO]

^^^ Great news friend.
BTW i m satisfied with my new O1

 

[Aditya11]

based on what kind of theory you put forward such a point?

It is a fact that Android OS is still lagging behind, with a large margin, to iOS when it comes to supporting 3D games. That's why a major overhaul in that department in expected in the upcoming OS updates. When Android initially launched, it was a buggy mess, but slowly n surely they have smoothened out things, made tons of improvements to music and multimedia. Eventually even 3D games will benefit in the same way. Rest assured, by the time it happens (Gingerbread and above), you will find MUCH better smartphones in market than G3 or O1. So AT THIS POINT IN TIME, there is no use of advocating GPU scores as their practical use is questionable.

i disagree here. O1 battery backup is more than G3, as mentioned by many (users, reviewers & also in comments). only after G3 got that froyo mod, does it stand a chance against O1 in battery backup.

USER reviews and comments are still incoming...so we should wait still. OTOH, since G3 with FroYo already shows improved battery performance, such comparison doesn't hold much weight anyways.

@Aditya

About the O1, dont u get it that I dont talk abt GPU only?

May be you aren't but others are, as if that's such an important thing. I have already addressed GPU issue above.

In addition to O1's GPU,

1. Froyo + 256MB extra RAM makes O1 smarter than G3 at 1K extra.

Can we drop the play of words and concentrate on practicalities? Its not like G3 has 128 MB RAM and it lags horribly when multitasking. O1 has double the amount of RAM, but as I have already said multiple times, I doubt HOW WHEN AND WHERE such RAM will show drastic improvements in day to day usage of the phone. Besides, G3 too has access to FroYO now.

2. O1's video recording is much better when compared to a wide array of Android phones in the category of under 15k, which includes the G3 (which is crap). Didnt u download n compare the three videos I'd posted here i.e.

All those videos look crap in general and you are still telling me how O1 is better than G3. This is similar to choosing between a 3 MP CAM and 3.2 MP. BOTH SUCK! I wonder how many users actually expect to record GOOD videos with a 12k device. I cannot think marginally better video recording performance should a selling point for O1.

3. No one wud prefer compromising while reading webpages, doc/pdf due to resolution issue.

Who is compromising? I read text heavy sites DAILY on my phone..no pixelization! You tell me to experience the multimedia performance of O1, but have you checked how the text actually on G3 while browsing and reading?

4. Not a majority of users prefer to root n void out warranty, so not supporting live wallpapers means u wont be able to enjoy a great feature of Android.

I am surprised why no one knows that when you UNRoot the phone, the warranty is gained back. Also, besides live wallpapers, MANY great features of Android are enabled by rooting, specifically a reliable back-up of free and paid apps along with better overall access control of your OS. And yes, TONS of users DO feel like rooting their phone...one look at the XDA forums and you will understand how many n00bs come asking for rooting instructions and report success and feel nice about themselves!!!!

5. Please dont compare a huge International brand to Indian brands like Spice, Videocon, Micromax, etc. Please first prove how bigger Samsung is than LG. These two brands are being compared like the good old SE vs Nokia, where there cant be a clear winner, since there r many factors to judge a brand n u havent studied any of these brands enough to claim which is bigger.

I do not need to prove anything, as I already said brand name is a PERCEPTION and for numerous reasons Samsungs seems a better known brand FOR MOBILES than LG. The fact that you need to consider whether a company is International and Indian, itself is one such contributing factor to your PERCEPTION of why LG is a better brand. I am sure you will not be able to 'prove' why a brand, just because is Indian, should automatically be inferior to International brands. No wonder both Spice and Macromaxx are investing heavily into brand awareness and advertising their Android offerings..

If the G3 wud've had a balanced set of capabilities, it wud be a good contender.

O1 and G3 at best equal out given pros and cons of each. As a brand however, I will always prefer Samsung over LG.

Who the hell said the multimedia features are not important? When I say that the G3 is imbalanced, it means it could have had 640x480 video playback, but better resolution and video recording. When u havent tried out an O1, how wud u know the multimedia capabilities of it. Believe me, u wont hear an O1 user complaining abt the audio quality, video playback, video recording (comparing Android phones of under 15k), which is what I mean by a balanced set of features.

And how many users have *you* seen complaining about video recording of G3? Its not like one is ten times inferior than another..Face this, video recording is not as important as you are making it out to be.

In the end, I think we have had enough of this debate and there is nothing to be gained anymore by discussing further. Let users decide whether brand name matters to them (Samsung- G3) or marginal improvements (LG O1), some of which are anyways achievable even of G3 (FroYO, Live Wallapapers, Superb multimedia etc)

 

[NainO]

Cnet says -

If your phone runs Froyo, it should run Gingerbread

 

[NavFrequency]

Somewhere I read that G3's low screen resolution actually helps in saving battery juice.

 

[coderunknown]

BTW i m satisfied with my new O1

how big a hole was made in your pocket? congrats

It is a fact that Android OS is still lagging behind, with a large margin, to iOS when it comes to supporting 3D games. That's why a major overhaul in that department in expected in the upcoming OS updates. When Android initially launched, it was a buggy mess, but slowly n surely they have smoothened out things, made tons of improvements to music and multimedia. Eventually even 3D games will benefit in the same way. Rest assured, by the time it happens (Gingerbread and above), you will find MUCH better smartphones in market than G3 or O1. So AT THIS POINT IN TIME, there is no use of advocating GPU scores as their practical use is questionable.

yes. what you told is correct, but the old (mobile i.e. current gen mobile) user don't wasn't to be left in the cold. cause 2.3 brings support for better games or something i read, can't quite remember. so this mean chances of better games coming to Android. but will require 2.3 or better.

USER reviews and comments are still incoming...so we should wait still. OTOH, since G3 with FroYo already shows improved battery performance, such comparison doesn't hold much weight anyways.

what i read is the Froyo mod resolved that infamous battery bug (which is good), but didn't improved the battery life in any other way. means now you'll get the official battery life or the backup time you were suppose to get. or are you getting a bit more extra juice than expected

Somewhere I read that G3's low screen resolution actually helps in saving battery juice.

where? link please.