Radeon HD 4870/4850 official game performances charts

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bikdel

Alpha Geek Banned
@nvidia.. FPS by 100?? 88oo GT wont give 100 fps at 1920x1080 4xaa 8xaf in crysis.. lolz
 

nvidia

-----ATi-----
^^ Just kidding.. It makes no sense i said in the prev post.. FPS, FPS/10, FPS/100.. Nothing makes sense. Maybe they used some kind of benchmarking software like 3-d mark..
 

dOm1naTOr

Wise Old Owl
Didnt get ya.. Clear Sky???


Guys, what does the Y-axis in the graph mean?... is it just simplifying frames into smaller numbers??

ADDED: Guys why are ATI cards priced astronomically here over NVidia cards?.. are specific reasons?.

coz, ATi seems much ahead of nvidia in technology.
Their GPUs are 55nm, which are cheaper for pruduction and also frits more[in performance]. Then the HD 4870 employs GDDR5, which again wud be cheaper if mass produced when compared to GDDR3.
Also, this new HD 4870 nd 4850 employs same 256bit memory b/w which helps keep the price low, but GTX 280 uses 512 bit which is insanely expensive option but only GDDR3 with it.
ATI once learned that its too early to go for 512 bit with the underpowered GPU's with their HD 2900XT. They learned it wud take almost a 5~6x powerful GPU to utilize the masssive b/w of 512 bit. ATI, used 256 this time also to keep prices low, and shifter to GDDR5 to compromise this.
 

bikdel

Alpha Geek Banned
coz, ATi seems much ahead of nvidia in technology.
Their GPUs are 55nm, which are cheaper for pruduction and also frits more[in performance]. Then the HD 4870 employs GDDR5, which again wud be cheaper if mass produced when compared to GDDR3.
Also, this new HD 4870 nd 4850 employs same 256bit memory b/w which helps keep the price low, but GTX 280 uses 512 bit which is insanely expensive option but only GDDR3 with it.
ATI once learned that its too early to go for 512 bit with the underpowered GPU's with their HD 2900XT. They learned it wud take almost a 5~6x powerful GPU to utilize the masssive b/w of 512 bit. ATI, used 256 this time also to keep prices low, and shifter to GDDR5 to compromise this.


you didnt get me dude... Im not askin why ATI is cheaper than Nvidia internationally..

Im asking why ATI cards are expensive in this part of the world we live in, than nvidia..

Nvidia prices are similar, US and Here albiet a small difference. But ATI cards have been expensive by a huge margin... why?

its up for sale in hongkong
*en.hardspell.com/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=3564

*www.hardspell.com/pic/article/2008/6/13/small/5aa61ead-cb55-4836-9fc4-12ec3fd5b7d6.jpg​

*www.hardspell.com/pic/article/2008/6/13/9017d112-8165-4b93-8851-1d60fe6c1739.jpg​

more on that webpage...​




And more--​

4850>>GTX280 !! in 3D mark

*en.hardspell.com/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=3560​

Also.. which one is the score of 4850? and which one is gtx280/ and why are there 3 scores?... man this site sucks...
 
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nvidia

-----ATi-----
Nvidia prices are similar, US and Here albiet a small difference. But ATI cards have been expensive by a huge margin... why?
ATi cards are imported i think and heavy taxes are levied. That additional burden is laid on the person who buys the card.
Moreover, AMD-ATi is not very popular among n00bs. You go and ask a dealer to recommend a graphics card and the immediate response would be an nvidia card. They don't even put ATi as an option among the customers. Only those who really know about it ask for it and buy it.
I guess ATi is not really interested in advertising in the country to expand their sales. Anyways, there isn't enough money with AMD to advertise right now. How long has it been since we've seen an AMD ad? I don't even remember seeing one.
 

bikdel

Alpha Geek Banned
^^ red one, u mean a red card? Whts color got to do? :D
@nvidia
what dyo think, nvidia makes its card in India?

And whts the price of 4870?? In $? Also how much may it cost in india.
 

dOm1naTOr

Wise Old Owl
he meant
ATI's are red monsters
and nvidia = green beasts
Most of the ATI's card's are on red PCB with red "ATI" label. No need to describe the greens in nvidia.


[errrrr, red has no relation with pink :D ]

maybe ATI itself is not interested in expanding market in our location. Caz
brans like MSI is much cheaper for nvidia cards. Price difference b/w here nd US for MSI nvidia cards is much less. But the price difference b/w MSI's ATI cards in here nd US is huge.
The sales in US nd Europe is 2~3x times greater than in here. Maybe they are trying to hold the western market first, then the whole world. Its foolish to take the whole world gfx market on one try.
 

bikdel

Alpha Geek Banned
^^ wth? they have been in market as long as nvidia has and have been much more expensive than US prices as long as I remember. Nvidia has it cheap here. N not ati. Thats what im concerned.
 

Hrithan2020

In the zone
Amazing.Now there's talk of gtx 280 being roughly 2 times faster than 3870x2.But it costs significantly more,now the 4870x2 vs gtx 280 would be a fight worth watching(after all the driver updates)........
Think 4870x2 would be priced lower than gtx 280 and considering the 512 bit interface,nvidia would find it harder to decrease the price dramatically,if the 4870x2 does trump gtx 280.Man,hope the next gen also gives such amazing leaps in performance after a 2-yr lull(mainly due to nvidia's greed and amd-ati acquisition).
 

dOm1naTOr

Wise Old Owl
hi, sorry but how can u compare a mere 240 shader units GTX 280 with GDDR3 with a 980 shader units GDDR5 with 2GPUs?

I think single GTX 280 competes with HD 4870, not the X2.
but its too early to have this debate. Well have to wait for their actual performances.
 

Faun

Wahahaha~!
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^^ red one, u mean a red card? Whts color got to do? :D
@nvidia
what dyo think, nvidia makes its card in India?

And whts the price of 4870?? In $? Also how much may it cost in india.
red = ATI
green = NVIDIA

but now u got to see a mixture :D

[errrrr, red has no relation with pink :D ]
start from your avatar color :D:x <-and this smiley
 
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Subhadip

Right off the assembly line
The 4870 X2 is going to beat the GTX 280 by a good margin.

By the way, 4870 has 800 shaders, not 480. So, 4870 X2 will be 1600!! Even the lowly 4850 has a higher theoretical FLOPS rating than the GTX 280. (1 TF vs. 0.93 TF). So a 4870 X2 will have 2.5x the theoretical processing capability as the GTX 280. Of course ATI suck at driver optimization, but still, ATI have got this gen wrapped up.
 

dOm1naTOr

Wise Old Owl
simple
buy one, and hold it on hands
[pun intended]

i think ull have to wait atleast 1~1.5 month to see those on local market
 
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