Please help me to choose a good config

[arijit_2404]

thanks imgame2.
Your comments are really valuable.

Let me continue this discussion.
Currently my plan is: HD4850 + vx450 (9.5K + 3.5k)=13k
As per your suggestion, HD4870 + VX550 + 22" LCD will cost me around (17K + 4.5K + 15K)=36.5K.
So approx 23.5K extra. Also my samsung 19" is only 4 months old.

Your suggestion is very good and I'm planning to get to it ASAP.
For that reason, I'll buy HD4850 + vx550.
When I will find a good deal for my samsung LCD I'll sell it and buy a 22" Dell LCD (or any exchange offer comes by).

It seems I should go for Palit card. I'll look for latest batch Sapphire though before actual buy.


I've gone through Palit website.
They have 3 different 4850 models.

HD4850
HD4850 Sonic
HD4850 Sonic 1GB Ed.

Now I can understand last model has 1GB GDDR while the other 2 has 512MB.
But what is Sonic ? - overclocked? or something else?

 

[imgame2]

thanks imgame2.
Your comments are really valuable.

Let me continue this discussion.
Currently my plan is: HD4850 + vx450 (9.5K + 3.5k)=13k
As per your suggestion, HD4870 + VX550 + 22" LCD will cost me around (17K + 4.5K + 15K)=36.5K.
So approx 23.5K extra. Also my samsung 19" is only 4 months old.

first of all u are welcome and i m here to help.

well thats how the scenario plays out,HD4850 is really value for money.since u have a new 19" inch LCD and i can understand u can't part with it,so HD4850 will serve u well.and at that resolution u can play all games with ultra high settings. and perhaps the games coming within a year and half (at least i hope).crysis sequel (crysis warhead) coming on September 12 '08 is supposed to be much more optimized than crysis.lets hope it is so...

but we don't only play crysis .....there are crazy number of games to choose from and in all such games u can get really good performance,with all eye candy on.

other application be it 3d application like photoshop etc depends more on RAM and proccy...so u will be pretty happy with C2D E8400.

Your suggestion is very good and I'm planning to get to it ASAP.
For that reason, I'll buy HD4850 + vx550.
When I will find a good deal for my samsung LCD I'll sell it and buy a 22" Dell LCD (or any exchange offer comes by).

It seems I should go for Palit card. I'll look for latest batch Sapphire though before actual buy.


I've gone through Palit website.
They have 3 different 4850 models.

HD4850
HD4850 Sonic
HD4850 Sonic 1GB Ed.

Now I can understand last model has 1GB GDDR while the other 2 has 512MB.
But what is Sonic ? - overclocked? or something else?

yes waiting and buying a dell 22" would be the best thing to do.and again perhaps u can get a good deal with ur 19" later on it would be good upgrade to 22" (even than ur HD4850 will serve u well)

coming to the palit HD4850 variants ...yes HD4850 sonic is pre-OCed card,but not available in india now ....for that matter there is no pre-OCed card available in india right now there is also one pre-Oced version from sapphire called sapphire toxic...for now only plain HD4850 512Mb is available for sapphire/gecube/palit and Xpertvision.

my guess is that the sonic or toxic will cost about 2 to 3k more than plain HD4850 cards ....but look around in the place u are buying if they are available and at what price??...sonic or toxic could be a good option if they are not highly priced.

and which PSU u are buying then ?? VX450 or VX550 ?? just make sure u can get a VX550 if thats the one u are buying ...

 

[arijit_2404]

but we don't only play crysis .....there are crazy number of games to choose from and in all such games u can get really good performance,with all eye candy on.

other application be it 3d application like photoshop etc depends more on RAM and proccy...so u will be pretty happy with C2D E8400.

Exactly. Crysis is not the only game to play. My games collection is rich in terms of variety.
Gears of War, CoD4, The Witcher (unplayable in 8600GT), World in Conflict (with max settings, 8600GT played in low settings), etc. are few games waiting for new GFX card.

my guess is that the sonic or toxic will cost about 2 to 3k more than plain HD4850 cards ....but look around in the place u are buying if they are available and at what price??...sonic or toxic could be a good option if they are not highly priced.

and which PSU u are buying then ?? VX450 or VX550 ?? just make sure u can get a VX550 if thats the one u are buying ...

I will look for toxic or Sonic version - if they're 2-3k extra I'll buy it.
I'm going for VX550W.

 

[imgame2]

Exactly. Crysis is not the only game to play. My games collection is rich in terms of variety.
Gears of War, CoD4, The Witcher (unplayable in 8600GT), World in Conflict (with max settings, 8600GT played in low settings), etc. are few games waiting for new GFX card.


I will look for toxic or Sonic version - if they're 2-3k extra I'll buy it.
I'm going for VX550W.

cool !!
...do tell us about it ... when u buy it !!

peace out till then!

 

[mukherjee]

An offbeat question - A frnd requires a proccy. Which is good E8400 or E7200?
What is difference between two? Is the +Rs.2K justified in E8400?
I suggested him E7200.

well....it depends on ur budget.
e7200=2.53ghz,3mb l2,1066fsb
e8400=3ghz,6mbl2,1333fsb.
now 8400 is the latest breed,but 7200 shud do as fine(and its a gr8 overclocker too)
get ur own poison then

Hi acewin, ingame2 and others for your expert comments.
Here's my answer:
1. My current card is 8600GT - can't play fullscreen games in high settings, 1024x768 is okay but who wants to play in black bordered window?

2. I can't wait long - my current setup is failed (PSU and Mobo).

3. your posts are eye-opener to me. so I've changed my setup like this:
Intel C2D E8400
MSI P45-E
800Mhz DDR2 4GB
Corsair 620W PSU
Thermalright Ultra120A heatsink
HD4850 512MB

So is this good config and VFM?
I can see extra money is saved from mobo and GFX. So in future I will get a 22", then HD4850 will be in full potential.
What do you say ?

bro,i m from kolkata too!
ur config is like a charm!
just one suggestion again,do consider a 4870!

^^ Thanks!

One more question.
Which brand should I go for HD4850?

well,if u wanna buy from Kolkata itself(as i did for my hd4850),only Palit is available currently.

thanks imgame2.
Your comments are really valuable.

Let me continue this discussion.
Currently my plan is: HD4850 + vx450 (9.5K + 3.5k)=13k
As per your suggestion, HD4870 + VX550 + 22" LCD will cost me around (17K + 4.5K + 15K)=36.5K.
So approx 23.5K extra. Also my samsung 19" is only 4 months old.

Your suggestion is very good and I'm planning to get to it ASAP.
For that reason, I'll buy HD4850 + vx550.
When I will find a good deal for my samsung LCD I'll sell it and buy a 22" Dell LCD (or any exchange offer comes by).

It seems I should go for Palit card. I'll look for latest batch Sapphire though before actual buy.


I've gone through Palit website.
They have 3 different 4850 models.

HD4850
HD4850 Sonic
HD4850 Sonic 1GB Ed.

Now I can understand last model has 1GB GDDR while the other 2 has 512MB.
But what is Sonic ? - overclocked? or something else?

yeah,sonic is overclocked,core=685mhz.memory stays reference,also it uses a dual heatpipe cooler.
only it isnt avaialble here yet

 

[arijit_2404]

^^
great!

Man, can you tell me the Palit HD4850 price in kolkata? if you know then also tell me the price of 4870 too!
And from where did you buy? I want to avoid supreme or technocraft - they overcharge always.

 

[arijit_2404]

I'm getting MSI 4870 in 17,000/- in Kolkata.
MSI P45-Neo v2 = 5900/-

 

[m-jeri]

avoid the 4870 ....

u dont need it at all... 4850 is enuff...

remember this.... By year end the products u buy will be technically obsolete...
i meant ur system sub sys... mobo+proc+ram ....

so u dont have to splurge in these components too much.... if u cant wait for too much just buy the most VFM rig u can based on a 4850 ..it will be more than enuff for u....

by the time u fell the next upgrade is in line u will be using the stuff u bought in full potential or used at max.... and it wont hurt u in wallet or mind too much...coz u didnt spend a bomb already...

doesnt make sense.... read again...

 

[amrawtanshx]

^^
Correct.
4850 is enough.
It will give more than required/playable FPS.

 

[arijit_2404]

avoid the 4870 ....

u dont need it at all... 4850 is enuff...

remember this.... By year end the products u buy will be technically obsolete...
i meant ur system sub sys... mobo+proc+ram ....

so u dont have to splurge in these components too much.... if u cant wait for too much just buy the most VFM rig u can based on a 4850 ..it will be more than enuff for u....

by the time u fell the next upgrade is in line u will be using the stuff u bought in full potential or used at max.... and it wont hurt u in wallet or mind too much...coz u didnt spend a bomb already...

doesnt make sense.... read again...

yup! I've already decided about 4850.

Actually I've posted differently. I should've written like a informational message not a decision-making message.
Anyway,
shall I go for MSI brand? or Palit/XpertVision is okay?
I've read good reviews of MSI brand in many sites and they're telling MSI better than Palit or Sapphire.

 

[Cool G5]

Go for Palit it's good.

Again my friend asked me which is better the E8400(Dual Core) or Q6600(Quad core)?
Even I am unaware of this. Which proccy will perform better of the above?

 

[m-jeri]

for a Radeon.. sapphire is one of the best known brands..

buy one u get.... dont bother abt the brand name too much...

 

[imgame2]

yup! I've already decided about 4850.

Actually I've posted differently. I should've written like a informational message not a decision-making message.
Anyway,
shall I go for MSI brand? or Palit/XpertVision is okay?
I've read good reviews of MSI brand in many sites and they're telling MSI better than Palit or Sapphire.

go for PALIT ..comes with a new BIOS and runs cool at 45-49 deg idle and doesn't face any noise Xpertvision is same as PALIT since just another division of PALIT.....sapphire cards still comes with older bios and face problems ..... u won't find MSI easily and will be very costly if u find one .....PALIT HD4850 @9.5k will give u the same performance that a MSI 4850 gives ..cos they are all reference cards ...just make sure u buy the latest manufactured card ....to avoid any problem with heating and noise ...

Go for Palit it's good.

Again my friend asked me which is better the E8400(Dual Core) or Q6600(Quad core)?
Even I am unaware of this. Which proccy will perform better of the above?

for gaming and other multimedia stuff E8400 performs much better than Q6600 ....reason is not many application to effectively use the 4 cores ....so go for E8400!

i can post some links as well if u like to get convinced ....

 

[VarDOS]

Go For This One :

Processor : Intel Core2Duo E8400
MotherBoard : MSI P45 Neo
RAM : Transcend 4GB DDR2 800MHz
HDD : Seagate 500GB HDD (Remember : Go For HDD With 32MB Buffer For Speedy Transfer)
GFX Card : Palit HD4850 512 MB
Cabinet : CM ElIte 330
PSU : CoolerMaster 600W
Monitor : Dell 198WFP
KeyBoard & Mouse : Logitech G1 Gaming Desktop
Optical Drive : LiteOn LH20A1P
Speakers : Altec Lansing BXR1121/Creative SBS 2.1 speakerrs.

Source : *askvarad.blogspot.com/

 

[arijit_2404]

go for PALIT ..comes with a new BIOS and runs cool at 45-49 deg idle and doesn't face any noise Xpertvision is same as PALIT since just another division of PALIT.....sapphire cards still comes with older bios and face problems ..... u won't find MSI easily and will be very costly if u find one .....PALIT HD4850 @9.5k will give u the same performance that a MSI 4850 gives ..cos they are all reference cards ...just make sure u buy the latest manufactured card ....to avoid any problem with heating and noise ...

I am getting MSI 4850 @ 10.5k (incl. TAX) in Kolkata. But extra 1K isn't worth I guess. Better I stick with Palit as they are cooler than the other models.

Go For This One :

Processor : Intel Core2Duo E8400
MotherBoard : MSI P45 Neo
RAM : Transcend 4GB DDR2 800MHz
HDD : Seagate 500GB HDD (Remember : Go For HDD With 32MB Buffer For Speedy Transfer)
GFX Card : Palit HD4850 512 MB
Cabinet : CM ElIte 330
PSU : CoolerMaster 600W
Monitor : Dell 198WFP
KeyBoard & Mouse : Logitech G1 Gaming Desktop
Optical Drive : LiteOn LH20A1P
Speakers : Altec Lansing BXR1121/Creative SBS 2.1 speakerrs.

Source : *askvarad.blogspot.com/

Thanks.
I've already decided my config (look few posts back)... right now I'm confused about the GFX card's brand.
For a good card I can spend more.
For HDD, WD is better than Seagate ATM.

 

[imgame2]

I am getting MSI 4850 @ 10.5k (incl. TAX) in Kolkata. But extra 1K isn't worth I guess. Better I stick with Palit as they are cooler than the other models.

two models comes for MSI V803 and V151...

V803 - is just the reference model ,if u are getting this its not worth it,go for palit ...

V151-its the quad pipe cooling solution,if u are getting this 10.5k ...its much better since u can overclock much better with this card...since it has a much better cooling solution than any of the HD4850 reference cards...then go for it.

if u are unsure go for palit u will not regret !

 

[arijit_2404]

^^
I will keep that in my mind when buying the card.

 

[toofan]

Go for Palit HD 4850 its cheaper and runs cool then others. But look for the card manufactured after 31 July.

 

[arijit_2404]

At first, Thanks to everybody in this forum.
I've finally bought the machine - thanks to all for your input.

Here's the configuration I've bought last Saturday(Kolkata price):

• MSI P45Neo (6000)
• Intel C2D E8400 (7400)
• Corsair DDR2 4GB RAM (6400)
• Corsair TX650W PSU (6300) - didn't get VX series
• Palit HD4850 - AUGUST import (9900)

Total: 35800/- + VAT

But this is a gem!

For the first time, I'm playing every games on my SAMSUNG 943NWX in high settings and at 1440x900 resolution

I can't express how happy I am.

Palit HD4850 has a dual-slot cooler.

At idle (ATI CCC GPU activity 0%) = 44-46 C
At load (ATI CCC GPU activity 60-80%) = 50-52 C

Intel C2D is also cool at ~35C and never crosses that. RAM sticks also has heatsinks but never measured temp.

I am running this machine for more than 16 hrs at stretch, still this low temp - pretty impressive!

Thanks to all who made this awesome configuration a success.

 

[comp@ddict]

^^^congos bro, do post up pics if possible.