PC Buying Guide - March 2011

Ishu Gupta · Mar 4, 2011

IMO the CM690 is great in everything except looks.

And out if the two monitors I suggested ASUS one is 1080p+ while PX2370 is a great monitor. The one you mention is P series (which has a random shutdown issue) this one is PX, sequel to LX2370 IIRC.

manishjha18 · Mar 4, 2011

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Who said? They are readily available in itwares and primeabgb and i guess in shopping malls as well.[/QUOTE]

not available in lamington road and croma store--mumbai...all i get to hear these are outdated models--newer speakers are now available

Cilus · Mar 4, 2011

Vicky, I can remember the review of Zebronics Invader in Digit. They said the the build quality and the material used is not top notch, but it offers features equivalent to a 9-10K Cases from Cooler Master or other market leaders. It has very attarctive and good design,a great layout, very good cooling system with option to add more cooling solutions and the price last time I inquired in Kolkata was within 6K. So it is also a very good buy .

topgear · Mar 5, 2011

That's not a lame cabinet by any means and I read a review about this cabby on some mag though the name was not invader and some branded pc maker has used this in their gaming rig - will have to serach hard in mag pile anyway to get the reviews but I will try for sure anyway.

Piyush said:
btw jassy month ka naam change karde

Name changed ;-)

Jaskanwar Singh · Mar 5, 2011

Zebronics - Cabinets -Invader
see this guys (zoom it) and compare with 690 II advanced. CM 690 II Advanced - Cooler Master - Leading Provider of Computer Case | Cooler | Power Supply

no mobo backplate hole(or whatever you call it :-D

). 690 has it. nice for coolers.
compare the cable management options.
it seems a bit smaller in space than 690 II advanced. HAF will be even bigger.690 allowws to put water cooling radiator and fans below HDD cages. cages can be removed.(see the pic)

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ishu so samsung one you mentioned or asus?

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there is no good case i found for 3-4k range for 70k rig. some help in this area please :-(

..those selio, centurian and all were too basic, aby and others help

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i forgot to put the heading on front page for upto 85k and contributions by too.. :-D

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Also i put up a heading on the fromt page for b3 revisions. Check it out and post other links if you want to.

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ABY i am putting this up in 100k in place of corsair tx850w as you said. what say??
TheITWares - One Stop for all Gizmos!SeaSonic S12D 850 Silver 850W ATX12V V2.3/EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Active PFC Power Supply

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ok guys comment on these -
Sub 100k (High End Gaming)

Optional upgrades for 100k -

Component | Make | Price Headset | Steel series Siberia V2 |3000

Sub 130k (Ultra High End Gaming)

Optional upgrades for 100k -

Component | Make | Price Headset | Roccat Kave | 5000

i put headsets as optional upgrades. now 100k is 104k. will do i think. what say?

Cilus · Mar 5, 2011

These two suggestions look absolutely great. And making the headphones optional, really great move by you Jas. Obviously normally a person will invest either on a good headset or a good speaker, not in both simultaneously unless he is a audio fanatic. So making headphones optional is quite a bit valid step....its upon the buyers now about their choice of comfort...headphone or Speaker.
And inclusion of Core i7 2600K in the 130K config is also a good move. Obviously a person spending that much should deserve the best.

Aashrey99 · Mar 5, 2011

Hi all. I've been browsing these forums. Awesome RIGs!!!!!!!!!!

So i've been wanting to upgrade my PC. Right now, i've got a shitty c2d rig. My 8800gts died recently, so im really stuck with the gaming. My budget would be under 100k.

I have a Razer imperator, a microsoft reclusa and a Xonar U1. So peripherals arent going to be a problem. I need a new monitor a good high end gaming rig.

I made up my config, but im not sure if its the best one for the price. So im putting down here. You awesome veterans can probably make better rigs. So help me out here. Thanks

My config

Core i7 2600K
Powercolor HD6970
Cooler Master V6GT (im gonna be OC'ing A LOT!)
Asus P8P67-PRO
Corsair CMPSU-800GUK 80+ (i know it more than required, but i plan to Xfire my setup later)
Cooler Master CM 690 II ADVANCED
Corsair Vengeance DDR-III Memory 8GB [ 2 X 4GB ] Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9

I need a monitor. And I havent been able to find a decent IPS panel, except for the Dell Ultrasharp one listed many times in this forum. Not that i'm saying that the monitor is bad. I just cant find it one an online store. I live in gopalpur, orrisa so i'll have to order stuff online.

Thanks for the help.

PS: I havent found prices as low as mentioned on the universal hardware price list anywhere. Can you guys list some good stores?(preferably online ordering)

Thanks.

vickybat · Mar 5, 2011

@ jaskanwar

Now they look good. Nice work buddy.

But, i think you should a add a blueray optical drive to these high end rigs. What say?

Gaurav Bhattacharjee · Mar 5, 2011

Aashrey99 said:
Hi all. I've been browsing these forums. Awesome RIGs!!!!!!!!!!

So i've been wanting to upgrade my PC. Right now, i've got a shitty c2d rig. My 8800gts died recently, so im really stuck with the gaming. My budget would be under 100k.

I have a Razer imperator, a microsoft reclusa and a Xonar U1. So peripherals arent going to be a problem. I need a new monitor a good high end gaming rig.

I made up my config, but im not sure if its the best one for the price. So im putting down here. You awesome veterans can probably make better rigs. So help me out here. Thanks

My config

Core i7 2600K
Powercolor HD6970
Cooler Master V6GT (im gonna be OC'ing A LOT!)
Asus P8P67-PRO
Corsair CMPSU-800GUK 80+ (i know it more than required, but i plan to Xfire my setup later)
Cooler Master CM 690 II ADVANCED
Corsair Vengeance DDR-III Memory 8GB [ 2 X 4GB ] Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9

I need a monitor. And I havent been able to find a decent IPS panel, except for the Dell Ultrasharp one listed many times in this forum. Not that i'm saying that the monitor is bad. I just cant find it one an online store. I live in gopalpur, orrisa so i'll have to order stuff online.

Thanks for the help.

PS: I havent found prices as low as mentioned on the universal hardware price list anywhere. Can you guys list some good stores?(preferably online ordering)

Thanks.

Config below with links. Order from there. Very good online store.

i7 2600K @16.9k <--Out-of-Stock in SMC as of 5th March 2011 (Call them up and consult about availability)

Asus P8P67 PRO @12.8k (Call them and specifically ask for the B3 version, which is the fixed version, of the board)

G.Skill Sandy Bridge 1600Mhz DDR3 2x4GB Kit @5.5k

MSI R6970-2PM2D2GD5 @21.25k

Cooler Master V6GT @4.25k

Corsair HX850W @9.65k

Cooler Master HAF 912 Advanced @5.75k

BenQ V2410 24" @ 13.3k

Total --> 89.4k

preyingangster · Mar 5, 2011

Jassy great work.....but u cn also include some good budget OC'ers.....dat will help a lot

Aashrey99 · Mar 5, 2011

Thanks a ton Gaurav. One thing i wanted to ask, the PSU i listed is 6.5k and its 800W. I its crossfire certified. Whats the difference between Corsair HX850W and Corsair CMPSU-800GUK? (apart from the power supplied. lol.

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BTW, that HAF 912 has killer looks. I'm looking up the cooler master website as i type this.

PS: Is there any P67 chipset mobo which has two PCIE 2.0 slots working at 16X in crossfire/SLI? So far i've only seen 8x/8x PCIE 2.0 slots when two gpus are used.

Gaurav Bhattacharjee · Mar 5, 2011

Aashrey99 said:
Thanks a ton Gaurav. One thing i wanted to ask, the PSU i listed is 6.5k and its 800W. I its crossfire certified. Whats the difference between Corsair HX850W and Corsair CMPSU-800GUK? (apart from the power supplied. lol. )
BTW, that HAF 912 has killer looks. I'm looking up the cooler master website as i type this.

PS: Is there any P67 chipset mobo which has two PCIE 2.0 slots working at 16X in crossfire/SLI? So far i've only seen 8x/8x PCIE 2.0 slots when two gpus are used.

You're welcome Aashrey. :mrgreen:

You can go for your listed PSU. It is SLI and Crossfire certified.The one you listed is actually Corsair GS800. You can compare this and HX850W on their website.

However, the HX850 is much better overall, even better than TX850. The HX850 is Silver 80+ Certified, has a lower ripple at intensive loads and is modular.

Yes. The HAF 912 Advanced is only for Asia. And it is very good. Hence my recommendation.

You don't need both GPU's to run at x16 speeds. The difference can only be noticed in multi-monitor setups, i.e. ultra-high resolutions. No difference can be seen in practical (read: 1920x1080) gaming performance.

Jaskanwar Singh · Mar 5, 2011

aashrey wait for GTX590 and HD6990. perfect for your budget. and then start a new thread regarding your all querries.

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vickybat said:
@ jaskanwar

Now they look good. Nice work buddy.

But, i think you should a add a blueray optical drive to these high end rigs. What say?

thanks

yaar blueray is 10k. so a big edit again :-D

. and i will include them for sure for higher rigs(above 130k)

preyingangster said:
Jassy great work.....but u cn also include some good budget OC'ers.....dat will help a lot

thanks...

sandy is very cool running. stock cooler is sufficient for 4.5ghz. so a person can get a cooler later but first concentrate on main parts.

Aashrey99 · Mar 5, 2011

Jaskaran, guessing from the HD5970 prices which stuck at 40K, i dont think i can fit that into my budget. I want to crossfire later, so i'll have to take a better PSU, probably 1000W+ cuz im gonna oc my cpu and ram aswell. Anyways im gonna build in june. not now. I got my XII boards to keep me from builing and then got my papers.

PS: Is the Powercolor HD6970 PCS+ or LCS available anywhere? I'm a little concerned about the temps of the stock HD6970. My PC is on for like 16 hours a day.

Also, i decided to get a HAF 922. 200mm fans are a total overkill for the price.

vickybat · Mar 5, 2011

^^ There are no heating concerns in a 6970. The temperatures of the card are fine.

aby geek · Mar 5, 2011

wah jassi dill garden garden ho gaya kya configs hain love the abv 2.

will get back with 85k monitor.

and thnx for the contri credit.

*www.drainweb.com/?p=95

ab isko explain viki or topgear karenge

Ishu Gupta · Mar 5, 2011

Jaskanwar said:
ishu so samsung one you mentioned or asus?

Samsung. Haven't found ASUS anywhere.

Cilus · Mar 6, 2011

Well jas, as most of the normal configs are completed, we will be start working on the PhysX config. For building PhysX configs I have decided some approch or steps to be followed to avoid confusion. Let me know if these are ok.

1. Choosing the Correct Main Card and PhysX card.
Here to keep everything under budget, we have to go for a little lower end card keeping in mind that it should still provide above average FPS.
The PhysX card needs to be well balanced for providing performance when paired with the main graphics card along price and power consumption also.
Example: Going from a HD 6970 to HD 6950 and a 9800GT or GTS 450 as PhysX card

2. Choosing the right PSU May be due to price constraint we need to go for a little cheaper PSU. But it should satisfy all the power requirement of the rigs with some buffer power and have good build quality.
Example: Say Cordair HX series to Corsair TX series or for some lower end configs say using Corsiar GS series or TAGAN or FSP EVEREST PSUs. They may not have the efficiency of the highest end ones but should be 80+ can provide enough power to run 2 GPUs with ease.

3. Other Components May be we need to suggest a little cheaper
components for other things like the less priced Cabinet, Mouse or Keyboard with the least compromise.
Example Suggesting Logitech G110 @ 3K instead of Razor Naga @ 4K

Our main object will be keeping the performance as 1st priority and then reduce price for the other components.

Jaskanwar Singh · Mar 6, 2011

Aashrey99 said:
Jaskaran, guessing from the HD5970 prices which stuck at 40K, i dont think i can fit that into my budget. I want to crossfire later, so i'll have to take a better PSU, probably 1000W+ cuz im gonna oc my cpu and ram aswell. Anyways im gonna build in june. not now. I got my XII boards to keep me from builing and then got my papers.

PS: Is the Powercolor HD6970 PCS+ or LCS available anywhere? I'm a little concerned about the temps of the stock HD6970. My PC is on for like 16 hours a day.

Also, i decided to get a HAF 922. 200mm fans are a total overkill for the price.

yeah HAF 922 is good. and as batman mentioned 6970 isnt hot. i posted the review in graphic card querries thread.

as you will buy in june, you will see 6990 or 590 prices soon as they will be releasing this month.

v6gt isnt that good. Noctua nh-d14 better. but sandybridge is cool. so even a Noctua NH-U12P-SE2 for 3.8k will suffice.

but it will be good if you fill the pc build questionnaire template in a new thread. we will be able to suggest you much better.

aby geek said:
wah jassi dill garden garden ho gaya kya configs hain love the abv 2.

aby geek said:
will get back with 85k monitor.

and thnx for the contri credit.

The Amazing HD Gaming Monitor Shootout!

ab isko explain viki or topgear karenge

you are welcome

Ishu Gupta said:
Samsung. Haven't found ASUS anywhere.

ok. no problem. :smile:

Cilus said:
Well jas, as most of the normal configs are completed, we will be start working on the PhysX config. For building PhysX configs I have decided some approch or steps to be followed to avoid confusion. Let me know if these are ok.

1. Choosing the Correct Main Card and PhysX card.
Here to keep everything under budget, we have to go for a little lower end card keeping in mind that it should still provide above average FPS.
The PhysX card needs to be well balanced for providing performance when paired with the main graphics card along price and power consumption also.
Example: Going from a HD 6970 to HD 6950 and a 9800GT or GTS 450 as PhysX card

2. Choosing the right PSU May be due to price constraint we need to go for a little cheaper PSU. But it should satisfy all the power requirement of the rigs with some buffer power and have good build quality.
Example: Say Cordair HX series to Corsair TX series or for some lower end configs say using Corsiar GS series or TAGAN or FSP EVEREST PSUs. They may not have the efficiency of the highest end ones but should be 80+ can provide enough power to run 2 GPUs with ease.

3. Other Components May be we need to suggest a little cheaper
components for other things like the less priced Cabinet, Mouse or Keyboard with the least compromise.
Example Suggesting Logitech G110 @ 3K instead of Razor Naga @ 4K

Our main object will be keeping the performance as 1st priority and then reduce price for the other components.

ya, now physx configs. i will get back with some research.

BTW topgear has stopped posting here :!:

vickybat · Mar 6, 2011

Read the monitor review posted by aby geek. The review is old but still clears the air.

Benq monitors have improved a lot and now are giving samsungs and dells a huge run for their money. Apart from being priced aggresively, they give great performance even being tn panels. Especially the contrast ratio of benq monitors is good as mentioned clearly in that review. Perfect blacks are my favorite. Lesser dead or zero dead pixels, true colour reproduction,Optimal differentiation between the darkest and lightest part of a scene(contrast ratio) are some of the usp's of benq.

Benq has proved this again by bringing out the best 3d monitor available in the 24 inch category. Its much better than alienware 3d monitor.

So for the gaming rigs, benq 22- 24 inch monitors should be recommended. The led backlit models will be an icing on the cake.

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