PC Buying Guide - July 2011

Jaskanwar Singh · Jun 12, 2011

@sarath
thanks buddy

GS700 is good vfm psu. no need to worry.

vwad · Jun 12, 2011

Jaskanwar Singh said:
^this is a reference guide. a person can make a thread for alternates if a particular thing isnt available and he cant order online

You should be a disclaimer king.

Jaskanwar Singh · Jun 12, 2011

final words on these -

Sub 20k (Best for office work,movies,downloading)

Sub 30k (Casual gaming,multi media)

Optional upgrades for 30k -

Sub 35k (Mid level gaming,multi media)

Sub 40k (Mid level gaming,multi media)

Optional upgrades for 40k -

Component | Make | Price Graphic Card |Sapphire HD6870|11200

Sub 50k (Mid range gaming)

Optional upgrades for 50k -

Component | Make | Price Headset |Steelseries 3H|1500

Sub 60k (Mid range gaming)

Optional upgrades for 60k -

Component | Make | Price Headset | Steelseries 3H |1500

Sub 70k (Mid range gaming)

Optional upgrades for 70k -

Component | Make | Price Headset |Steel Series Siberia Full-Size Headset(White)|3100

Sub 85k (High end gaming)

Optional upgrades for 85K -

Sub 100k (High End Gaming)

Optional upgrades for 100k -

Component | Make | Price Headset |Roccat Kave|5000

Sub 130k (Ultra High End Gaming)

Optional upgrades for 130k -

Sarath · Jun 12, 2011

PSU, UPS and Cabby are too heavy so shipping charges would pinch badly.

Jaskanwar Singh · Jun 12, 2011

^^why UPS? APC is hard to find?

psu charges are just 100-150 mostly. cabby are around 500 i think. that wont pinch a person spending above 70 i think?

Skud · Jun 12, 2011

Cabby is 600-700 at least.

The Sorcerer · Jun 12, 2011

Other than NZXT and Lian Li, most of the cases are fairly available atleast in main cities. There's 64gig Corsair Force series. Priced for 6.5k.

Better speakers will need better soundcards, unless you don't want to use it to its full glory. I have an earphone, headphone (HD 202) and speakers. Not that I am saying my ears are fairly trained (let alone an audiophile) but I am so used to Asus Xonar DX that I hate soundoutput from pretty much any onboard sound.

Extreme Gamer · Jun 12, 2011

tkin said:
Its already oc'ed to 832 core, now remember one thing, your cards push hot air out of cabby, mine has no such system, it puts the entire heat in the cabby, so temps would be a bit higher, with side panel open crysis 2 temp maxed out @ 67c, so it makes a difference.

untrue. my cards push air into the system from the front, and a small amount from the back outside the case..

I have non-reference cards...

Sarath · Jun 12, 2011

The Sorcerer said:
Other than NZXT and Lian Li, most of the cases are fairly available atleast in main cities. There's 64gig Corsair Force series. Priced for 6.5k.

Better speakers will need better soundcards, unless you don't want to use it to its full glory. I have an earphone, headphone (HD 202) and speakers. Not that I am saying my ears are fairly trained (let alone an audiophile) but I am so used to Asus Xonar DX that I hate soundoutput from pretty much any onboard sound.

Finally we get a users perspective on the sound cards in question.
What speakers are you using?

What difference do you find between the inbuilt card and the dedicated one?

Jaskanwar Singh said:
^^why UPS? APC is hard to find?

psu charges are just 100-150 mostly. cabby are around 500 i think. that wont pinch a person spending above 70 i think?

Ok ignore the UPS. But spending 0.8k for shipping seems a lot. I bought a 87k system recently and even I felt it wasnt worth it. [I checked for Seasonic PSU from techshop.in and dropped it due to high shipping charges]

Skud · Jun 12, 2011

@Sarath

Techshop is highly overpriced. You should have tried ITWares. They charge some 200odd on SMPSes.

Actually I bought my SMPS from Techshop when they were offering free shipping. Lucky me.

Still it costs me 8.8K!!!

Sarath · Jun 12, 2011

@Skud

The same PSU was out of stock in ITWares. I could only find it in techshop

Skud · Jun 12, 2011

ahh... that's a big problem

The Sorcerer · Jun 13, 2011

Check out Prime then. Tirupathi is the official distributor for Seasonic units BTW.

MegaMind · Jun 13, 2011

Sarath said:
Finally we get a users perspective on the sound cards in question.
What difference do you find between the inbuilt card and the dedicated one?

It can be said in one word, CLARITY.

Onboard sound chips use CPU cycles to process sound. This robs your system performance a bit.

People spend much time building up their video systems, studying and reading about the best video components, but then they have an older onboard sound card connected multimedia speakers.

Modern games are productional masterpieces with equal attention paid to audio as well as video. Without this hardware you are only getting half of what the game developers wanted you to experience.

Sound is an important part of all modern games.

Indeed most new games contain EAX, surround sound support and directional audio, all used to make your game more enjoyable.
Unfortunately all are limited by the onboard sound chip.

In my experience,
Everything became infinitely clearer. I could hear individual instruments better. I had a better understanding of the sound stage.

Modern Warfare 2 was my first game with Asus XONAR DX. In COD MW 2, footsteps became clear as day. They stood out from other sounds. Bullets became clearer and i can even tell the location of the foot steps and from which way bullets were coming.

The best way I can describe it is reading a book as fast as you can vs actually slowing down to stop and enjoy the literature and the words the author carefully put together.

It is definitely worth to purchase a sound card, if you at all care for quality of sound/music/gaming.

I would say it is MORE important to buy a sound card than to buy a high end pair of headphones.
You will see MORE out of a sound card + mid range headphones than high-end headphones and onboard sound card.

P.S : A decent speakers or headsets are required to get the best audio quality out of a sound card.

Sarath · Jun 13, 2011

^^^What is your audio set up?

I recently got a PC but I have no speaker. Since I cannot play with the speakers on I wanted to invest in a nice set of headphones.

I might get a sound card if it really is as good as you put it. I am a music freak.

Just as you said I researched on the best monitors and got an Dell IPS one. Left the audio division empty. Same goes for my TV. No Home theatre set up at all.

MegaMind · Jun 13, 2011

Sarath said:
^^^What is your audio set up?

VS4121+Xonar DX

Sarath said:
I recently got a PC but I have no speaker. Since I cannot play with the speakers on I wanted to invest in a nice set of headphones.

I might get a sound card if it really is as good as you put it. I am a music freak.

Just as you said I researched on the best monitors and got an Dell IPS one. Left the audio division empty. Same goes for my TV. No Home theatre set up at all.

Go ahead with sound card+Headphones depending on your budget...

Sarath · Jun 13, 2011

MegaMind said:
VS4121+Xonar DX

Go ahead with sound card+Headphones depending on your budget...

The problem is I never start with a budget in mind. I look at the most VFM options and upgrade accordingly.

Anyways I will stop taking this further now. When I have decided to get a decent set of speakers I might go for the set up you have suggested.

MegaMind · Jun 13, 2011

I once tried ipod's earphones with Xonar DX while playing Black ops... Even a DTS movie theater cant produce that clarity n effect(deep lows n crisp highs)...

Sarath said:
The problem is I never start with a budget in mind. I look at the most VFM options and upgrade accordingly.

U can get the help of our forum geniuses..

topgear · Jun 13, 2011

I've seen many people are nowadays going into shop and want to get a Sandy Bridge rig around 25k or the cheapest possible SB rig they can afford - but due to lack of knowledge the shopkeepers are either looting them or they just can't get their desired SB rig. Here's my recommendation for cheapest possible SB rig with a mix of good quality components so that the first time PC buyers can really enjoy their rig with HD movie and some decent sound out of the box and not to mention around 40W less power consumption.

Intel core i3 2100 @ 5.5k
Intel DH61WW @ 3.2k
2GB Corsair Value Ram 1.1k
FSP saga II 350W PSU 1.4k
Zebronics Bijli (w/o psu) Cabinet @ 1.1k
Seagate 500GB 7200.12 1.7
LG/Samsung 22X SATA DVD 0.9k
Benq G2220HD 7k
Basic Optical USB Mouse 0.15
TVS Champ Keyboard 0.25
APC 600VA UPS 1.8k
Altec Lansing BXR1221 0.9k

Total 25k

share your thoughts ;-)

Skud · Jun 13, 2011

Replace the speakers with Logitech Z313 @ 1k. Rest are perfect. Another 2gb RAM can also be added if required.

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