PC Buying Guide - July 2011

Sarath · Jun 12, 2011

Jaskanwar Singh said:
guys which SSDs you suggest?
if i only change ssd to a ocz solid 3 60gb the cost comes down to 130.5k. what say?

and benefit of P8Z68 V PRO over P8Z68 V?

You still want to give him a sound card that will never be used to its potential. (I am not saying full potential since that is obvious) ?

I can see that you added Dell U2311H up there which is a sweet IPS panel. However please add a disclaimer that it doesnt have a HDMI port (which is omnipresent in every other).
It shouldnt come as a rude shock to anyone.

Jaskanwar Singh said:
thanks for inputs guys.
working on it.

confused on sound system!

some things that will make a person choose a ASUS P8Z68 V PRO instead of ASUS P8Z68 V for extra 1-1.5k?

Doesnt justify the premium. Personal opinion.
[If I had 130k for a system 1.5 would be loose change for me]

vickybat · Jun 12, 2011

Jaskanwar Singh said:
thanks for inputs guys.
working on it.

confused on sound system!

some things that will make a person choose a ASUS P8Z68 V PRO instead of ASUS P8Z68 V for extra 1-1.5k?

That gigabyte z68-d2h-b3 is a steal at 9.5k. I think you can recomend that. Mutigpu solutions are also possible though the 2nd card blocks two sata ports.

But you can first connect the sata cables to the ports and then connect the graphics card. No issues.

About sound system, i think z506 is a great choice alongwith altec lansing mx 6021 expressionist ultra (2.1). They will do the job fine for a gaming system.

Jaskanwar Singh · Jun 12, 2011

@sarath
did you notice ghosting with fast paced scenes on your monitor?

@tkin
this?
Kingston SSD 96 GB SVP100S2/96G

@batman
that mobo is good. but already other mobos are adjusted.

@all
shall sound card be put or speakers should be changed to something better?

Sarath · Jun 12, 2011

I finished playing Crysis 2 and COD Black Ops on my PC. No ghosting whatsoever. Highly recommended.

Better speakers may again need a better soundcard. You should find a middle ground there, If I had 10k spending 5k on sound card and 5k on speakers would seem wrong. You can list the sound card as optional or something like pair this sound card with this speaker system to get the best audio experience.

I think you should leave SSD as optional. Give him choice between 60, 80 and 100? ,120 GB capacities.

tkin · Jun 12, 2011

My take on 130k config on top:
1. Give option for vengeance ram, gskill has no service center in kolkata, afaik gskill has no official presence in India.
2. Drop that pricey ssd, kingston 96GB V+ is more than enough.
3. Give option for NZXT Phantom, looks could kill.
4. Razer has flimsy build quality, give option for G500 or G9x.
5. You can remove the soundcard and add it as option, I have this RTK 889 on my Z68 and its really really good.
6. If user gets Gskill ram, give option for noctua D14 or TRUE.

Everything else is fine.

Skud · Jun 12, 2011

tkin said:
Hmm, in my case, while not gaming, the top hdd(WD black) is at 40c, the lower hdd(Seagate) is at 38c, if I could used the middle cage it would be 36c for both drives(tested), ambient is 35c around. So its normal, as long as HDD remains below 50c you should never worry, if it goes over 55c, then it means danger, if it touches 60c it will probably die(max operational temp is 60c with the wd black).

PS: Can your case fit the 580 Lightning? If so I'd say a very good case indeed.

In that case my temps look fine. My case can fit GFX card up to 440mm at the topmost PCI-e slot when no ODD at 3rd/4th slot and 290mm at the rest of the slots. Lightning is 305mm. So for single card its OK, but SLI is out of contention I think.

tkin · Jun 12, 2011

Skud said:
In that case my temps look fine. My case can fit GFX card up to 440mm at the topmost PCI-e slot when no ODD at 3rd/4th slot and 290mm at the rest of the slots. Lightning is 305mm. So for single card its OK, but SLI is out of contention I think.

Thats the issue, if I rotate my middle hdd cage the gfx card supposed to pass through it, but lightning has this piece of curved metal sticking out at the end that hits the sidewall of the cage, its a weird card, totally whack shape(can't complain about it, played portal 2 today, max temps was 65c :shock:

, ambient 30c+), so it needs total clearance.

Extreme Gamer · Jun 12, 2011

hey tkin portal 2 is not at all GPU hungry.

run metro 2033 and crysis maxed out for a real test.

tkin · Jun 12, 2011

Extreme Gamer said:
hey tkin portal 2 is not at all GPU hungry.

run metro 2033 and crysis maxed out for a real test.

Ran crysis 2, 72c ;-)

Metro will get 75c I believe, remember I game at 1680x1050 for now.

Skud · Jun 12, 2011

err temps look pretty cool to me for a high-end card.

Extreme Gamer · Jun 12, 2011

well run them with 4xmsaa (for metro, tess and advanced DOF on with advanced physx enabled too|for crysis run 16xQ AA)

In metro and Crysis I get GPU 1 at 80C and GPU 2 at 75-77C at most.two cards heat up more than one card btw(per card- due to more restricted airflow)

i was expecting more from the TFIII cooler in your case.more like 72C for Metro and 68C for crysis.

skeletor · Jun 12, 2011

I'd suggest replacing CM HAF 912 and 922 with NZXT Tempest Evo. It slightly edges the CM counterparts in terms of looks (fully black interiors) and also comes with dust filter on the side. Sarath could confirm this. NZXT availability will be an issue though.

Phantom = too plasticky for me. HAF 932 and X all the way.

Cilus · Jun 12, 2011

thetechfreak said:
I think Mr.Clius meant to say that fresh products of the Mill are b@d. The older products are good quality but newer ones arent of that quality

thetechfreak, why are you using my name for things I never told? That was a suggestion from Sorcerer, not me. Check before posting buddy.

tkin · Jun 12, 2011

Extreme Gamer said:
well run them with 4xmsaa (for metro, tess and advanced DOF on with advanced physx enabled too|for crysis run 16xQ AA)

In metro and Crysis I get GPU 1 at 80C and GPU 2 at 75-77C at most.two cards heat up more than one card btw(per card- due to more restricted airflow)

i was expecting more from the TFIII cooler in your case.more like 72C for Metro and 68C for crysis.

Its already oc'ed to 832 core, now remember one thing, your cards push hot air out of cabby, mine has no such system, it puts the entire heat in the cabby, so temps would be a bit higher, with side panel open crysis 2 temp maxed out @ 67c, so it makes a difference.

Sarath · Jun 12, 2011

ico said:
I'd suggest replacing CM HAF 912 and 922 with NZXT Tempest Evo. It slightly edges the CM counterparts in terms of looks (fully black interiors) and also comes with dust filter on the side. Sarath could confirm this. NZXT availability will be an issue though.

Phantom = too plasticky for me. HAF 932 and X all the way.

As I said earlier I can vouch for the NZXT Tempest Evo. It deserves to be alongside the HAF cousins. PRICE: INR 6000

All black interiors. 2 front 120mm fans, 2 140mm top fans, 1 120mm side and rear each. 3intake and 3 outlet fans. Transparent smoked side panel. Blue LED lit front(2) and side fan.
Bottom mounted PSU. Dust filter front and side.
Vertically mounted HDDs. upto 10.
Can accomodate 300mm cards.

I have posted the pics in this thread before. If needed I will post here again.

It is functionally good. In fact I have seen a tutorial for assembly on youtube using the HAF. This one offers similar features and I could see no difference.
Personally I chose this as it looks cooler than the HAF.

Here is the link to pics of Tempest Evo (after assembly)

Jaskanwar Singh · Jun 12, 2011

tkin said:
l.
4. Razer has flimsy build quality, give option for G500 or G9x.

Razer Imperator Gaming Mouse Review - Conclusion
build quality 10/10

check this now -

Sub 130k (Ultra High End Gaming)

Optional upgrades for 130k -

Sarath · Jun 12, 2011

^^^That looks good.

What about availability issues with Noctua, Seasonic & Lian Li

Jaskanwar Singh · Jun 12, 2011

^this is a reference guide. a person can make a thread for alternates if a particular thing isnt available and he cant order online ;-)

Sarath · Jun 12, 2011

I was forced to get a GS700 instead of the previously planned Sea. Sii 620W since I didnt know of any good alternatives. Had got everything else. So settled for the shopkeepers word and got the one.

First hand experience. Just two or three weeks ago.

Anyways got your point. You are pretty hardworking.

Skud · Jun 12, 2011

Sarath said:
^^^That looks good.

What about availability issues with Noctua, Seasonic & Lian Li

Online Shopping.

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