PC Buying Guide 2011- Q4

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Skud

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This would be a very good guide for CPU coolers, wonder how many of them are actually available in India:-

2011 CPU Cooler Roundup: Highlights (and Not-So-Highlights) of the Last Two Years-Hi Tech Legion-2011 CPU Cooler Roundup: Highlights (and Not-So-Highlights) of the Last Two Years
 

The Sorcerer

oh wow...Xenforo!!!
*i43.tinypic.com/2q1ufjt.jpg

Said it before and will say it again! Don't just advice boards (Any H/W for that matter) just like that and just because its from a good/hyped up company. This is a ECS X79 fully loaded motherboard. This is what happened during testing. 3960X was destroyed in the process too. Few advices (Few actual advices) have been a bit....questionable then again I left it. At times like this people need to learn the hard way unfortunately.
 

d6bmg

BMG ftw!!
^^ AFAIK, ECS isn't a hyped up company but generally works as OEM company, right?
And where does this happen? During your testing, or testing done by some other person?
 

The Sorcerer

oh wow...Xenforo!!!
^^ Shared by Tweaktown.

According to Shane Baxtor, Tweaktown's senior review editor, the cpu was on 1.4v when this happened. Same CPU has done 1.525v on R4E and ASRock Extreme 9. I've been told that ECS bios is a screwed up job, but sad to see this happening on the hardware level.
 

The Sorcerer

oh wow...Xenforo!!!
bwhahahah! The story of low EMI, sounds familiar??

Still I think you guys need to check out stuff like VRMs and its rated amps. MOSFETS are way too low for something like this processor.
 

The Sorcerer

oh wow...Xenforo!!!
Phases aren't the only thing that matters. If the VRMs cannot take the load and the arrangement is not upto the mark, it will fail no matter how many phase you see for the CPU. Everything from the EPS connector till the processor socket has to be done properly.
 

max_snyper

Maximum Effort!!!!!!
^^Can you guyz lists z68 boards with best phases and vrm's..list it company wise
can i start
1.Asus....(v.....v-pro....deluxe) (12+4)
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3....
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tkin

Back to school!!
Good news, Noctua is available with MD Computers.

Click here
For a really long time now, they also keep every NZXT cabinet imported in india, some tagan stuff, steelseries, skullcandy, JBL, soundmagic headphones and a lot more.
 

Extreme Gamer

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Phases aren't the only thing that matters. If the VRMs cannot take the load and the arrangement is not upto the mark, it will fail no matter how many phase you see for the CPU. Everything from the EPS connector till the processor socket has to be done properly.
I thought VRMs and phases were interrelated? 8-phase VRM refers to 8-24 MOSFETs on the moobo.
 

Cilus

laborare est orare
Gusy, the Biostar TZ68K+ version is available at flipkart @ 7.4K price.
Flipkart: Biostar TZ68K+: Motherboard

Feature wise the board is nice and offers plenty of ports, USB 3.0, SATA 6 Gbps and two PCI-X X16 @ X16-X4 mode, hence CF support. I think it can be used in sub 4oK to 50K rigs.
 

The Sorcerer

oh wow...Xenforo!!!
8-phase VRM refers to 8-24 MOSFETs on the moobo.
umm...not sure how you summed up that number. Depends on what kind of MOSFETs and its amp you're referring to and depends how they made the board.

Capacitors, driver MOSFETs (Standard/RDS), doublers, phase, Inductors- even digi+ VRM in Asus boards. Some boards have doublers, some dont. Some have integrated drivers, some have added. Some use alloy chokes, some use ferrite. Heck I've heard of someone using doubler with integrated driver (not sure if its there or what- but I heard its on some motherboard) VRMs. They regulate voltage. MOSFETs are simply one of them. It taken a while to sort of understand how they work and then I forgot all thanks to Digi+ (which would have been awfully nice if my exotic friend who lurks around all the forums cared to explain me) but all thanks to this "little" incident between few fellows when one of them blurrted out bluntly that digital VRMs are better than Analog counterparts. That was a good popcorn session even few company guys' socks were knocked off and turned few heads. It takes a while to learn and then you end up with a roadblock- and the only way one can understand if someone experienced explains the basic of it and keeps you in touch whenever they get something new (Yeah, that's RnD thing). I miss those phase fight days. That's was a good time to learn all that from scratch. People used to spell it out in basic language.

I think Gigabyte uses Dr. MOS mosfets more than MSI now, atleast as far as I know. Those are very good MOSFETs.
 

Extreme Gamer

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umm...not sure how you summed up that number. Depends on what kind of MOSFETs and its amp you're referring to and depends how they made the board.

Capacitors, driver MOSFETs (Standard/RDS), doublers, phase, Inductors- even digi+ VRM in Asus boards. Some boards have doublers, some dont. Some have integrated drivers, some have added. Some use alloy chokes, some use ferrite. Heck I've heard of someone using doubler with integrated driver (not sure if its there or what- but I heard its on some motherboard) VRMs. They regulate voltage. MOSFETs are simply one of them. It taken a while to sort of understand how they work and then I forgot all thanks to Digi+ (which would have been awfully nice if my exotic friend who lurks around all the forums cared to explain me) but all thanks to this "little" incident between few fellows when one of them blurrted out bluntly that digital VRMs are better than Analog counterparts. That was a good popcorn session even few company guys' socks were knocked off and turned few heads. It takes a while to learn and then you end up with a roadblock- and the only way one can understand if someone experienced explains the basic of it and keeps you in touch whenever they get something new (Yeah, that's RnD thing). I miss those phase fight days. That's was a good time to learn all that from scratch. People used to spell it out in basic language.

I think Gigabyte uses Dr. MOS mosfets more than MSI now, atleast as far as I know. Those are very good MOSFETs.

Thanks for the info.

I have counted the number of MOSFETs before I drew any conclusions. In all the mobos I have seen, if any number of phases were mentioned, there were at least that many MOSFETs and that many number of capacitors around the CPU socket/mem socket etc.
 

d6bmg

BMG ftw!!
Just saw another 500W PSU, Corsair GS500 Link:Click Here Price: 3.4K Descent, but I'll have to say it is overpriced.

May be its new or I overlooked it for a long time. :-/
 
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