Overheating problems
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Piyush
Lanaya
whoa!!
dats a gud amount of heat!!
since how many days its going on like this?
and how many fans u hv?
what size?
piyush2202
The Tech Enthusiast
Well, the motherboard is pretty new, about 2 weeks old. As far as cooling goes, I am using a stock Intel heatsink on the processor, a Cooler Master 120mm fan for rear exhaust and my PSU has a fan which sucks out air from the cabinet and vents it out from the rear. The front of my cabinet has a grille which allows proper ventilation so I didn't bother with a front fan.
My older motherboard (Abit IP35-E) seemed to work pretty fine with this setup. My processor would go to about 48-50C on load, motherboard never exceeded 50C and the BIOS didn't show any ICH temperature so I have no idea what it was! Unfortunately the BIOS on my old board got screwed do to a power surge during boot up and I'm still trying to get it repaired. On my new board, the motherboard goes to around 54-56C on load (probably because it's Micro-ATX) and the processor reports the same temperature as earlier. It's only the ICH temp that is really scary!! Idle temps are around 40-42C for processor, 46-50C for motherboard and ICH seems to stay anywhere between 86-94C at all times.
@asigh I don't check the temps from the Windows interface, I simply hit the reset button to check temps after stressing out the comp for around an hour if I want to check.
---------- Post added at 06:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:05 PM ----------
^^
I just installed the Intel Desktop Utility for my mobo and it seems to show a green indicator for a ICH running at 92C!! The threshold is at 119C by default!! These are my current temps (threshold given in brackets):
CPU: 51C (74C)
Mobo: 51C (85C)
ICH: 92C (119C)
MCH: 59C (109C)
Now what is THAT supposed to mean???
asingh
Aspiring Novelist
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BIOS temperatures are not always correct, and are doubtful. Also while in the BIOS all the drivers have not kicked in, so the temperature gradient curve for the fans is not being followed. So I would not trust them. Use Windows based monitoring devices -- RealTEMP, CoreTEMP, Everest Lavalys, HW Monitor to gauge temperatures. But this will not show ICH.
I doubt your ICH is that hot. Try to reset the BIOS once. The ICH and NB are forged in the fires of hell. They can withstand high temperatures.
BIOS temperatures are not always correct, and are doubtful. Also while in the BIOS all the drivers have not kicked in, so the temperature gradient curve for the fans is not being followed. So I would not trust them. Use Windows based monitoring devices -- RealTEMP, CoreTEMP, Everest Lavalys, HW Monitor to gauge temperatures. But this will not show ICH.
I doubt your ICH is that hot. Try to reset the BIOS once. The ICH and NB are forged in the fires of hell. They can withstand high temperatures.
piyush2202
The Tech Enthusiast
That's exactly why I tried with the Intel Desktop Utility: it shows ICH temps. I have tried resetting and even flashing the BIOS but I seem to get the same reading all the time. I tried opening up my side panel and the temperature drops by around 2C. Not much of a difference. I am using BIOS version 0029 at the moment, was using 0024 before that. Seems like the temperatures are high after all!! Besides, if Intel Desktop Utilities reports no problem, probably it's supposed to run that hot right?
One more thing, my room temp is around 34C. Probably thats where the heat is coming from
. It's pretty hot here in Pune you know!
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piyush2202
The Tech Enthusiast
didn't check... i'll check and let you know....... i'm not much into overclocking my processor yaar.... i only bother to overclock my gfx card which added around 5-6fps to crysis.
cosmos
Broken In
Guyz,
Just ran Real Temp to check my CPU temps and gt very high temps...This is bad
My MSI - X58 Pro-E board is 2 weeks old having a i7 930 Procy with default stock cooler.
Results:
Real temp:
*img13.imageshack.us/img13/6927/cputemps.jpg
MSI Green Power Center:
*img717.imageshack.us/img717/482/msiboardtemps.jpg
Please help...At this rate my chip might get fried
Cheers,
Cosmos
---------- Post added at 04:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:17 PM ----------
Guyz,
I have shutdown and closed my system. Currently using my roommate's laptop. My cabinet has 5 fans ( 120mm*1 , 80mm * 3 and 140mm * 1). The cabinet inside temp as reported on the front panel is shown as 42C.
Please help! I'm now afraid to turn my system back....Fear of burnt chip
Just ran Real Temp to check my CPU temps and gt very high temps...This is bad
My MSI - X58 Pro-E board is 2 weeks old having a i7 930 Procy with default stock cooler.
Results:
Real temp:
*img13.imageshack.us/img13/6927/cputemps.jpg
MSI Green Power Center:
*img717.imageshack.us/img717/482/msiboardtemps.jpg
Please help...At this rate my chip might get fried
Cheers,
Cosmos
---------- Post added at 04:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:17 PM ----------
Guyz,
I have shutdown and closed my system. Currently using my roommate's laptop. My cabinet has 5 fans ( 120mm*1 , 80mm * 3 and 140mm * 1). The cabinet inside temp as reported on the front panel is shown as 42C.
Please help! I'm now afraid to turn my system back....Fear of burnt chip
cosmos
Broken In
Ok. I have closed my system now due to fear of burning the chip
. I will uninstall that tomorrow. I saw in the morning few processes running in the sidebar which i have installed from the M/B DVD, think it was named "Turbo Boost". Will uninstall that as wellI have recently updated my Bios to the latest version. How to reset it?
Will remove and reinstall it tomorrow
What's TIM?
I have just overclocked my ram from 1066 to 1336MHz with the advice given by the users in the "The Official Core ix (i3,i5,i7) Thread for Desktops & Laptops" thread...Didnt touch the settings for Processor though. Very noobish in Overclocking so was scared.
Sorry for the noobish questions
Cheers,
Cosmos
There are two ways to reset Bios settings : all bios have a option like this :
Restore Default Settings/Options - just select it, hit enter and save and quit - that should reset all bios settings to default
When you are unable to start your PC due to wrong OC settings - just remove the big battery on the mobo and replace it back after a minute or so - that should also reset the bios settings - you can also use jumpers of mobo to do this and more advanced mobos has dedicated switch to do this - for these steps read the mobo manual first carefully
TIM is Thermal Interface Material or simply call it CPU thermal Paste or grease ( the paste you got with the box packed cpu coolers - it's glued at the bottom of those cpu coolers ) - it's recommended to remove the TIM that came with the box packed cpu cooler and use 3rd party TIMs like CM Nano Fusion or arctic silver or MX for better heat dissipation between CPU and the cpu coller ( HSF )
Restore Default Settings/Options - just select it, hit enter and save and quit - that should reset all bios settings to default
When you are unable to start your PC due to wrong OC settings - just remove the big battery on the mobo and replace it back after a minute or so - that should also reset the bios settings - you can also use jumpers of mobo to do this and more advanced mobos has dedicated switch to do this - for these steps read the mobo manual first carefully
TIM is Thermal Interface Material or simply call it CPU thermal Paste or grease ( the paste you got with the box packed cpu coolers - it's glued at the bottom of those cpu coolers ) - it's recommended to remove the TIM that came with the box packed cpu cooler and use 3rd party TIMs like CM Nano Fusion or arctic silver or MX for better heat dissipation between CPU and the cpu coller ( HSF )
asingh
Aspiring Novelist
Cosmos:
First things first. Know one is a noob here. So please do not state so. Feel free to ask questions. Reset the BIOS as TopGear has mentioned, and forget about the RAM for now. Let it run as it is, out of the box. Also check the TIM as requested, and inspect the HSF (heat sink fan) assembly. It should not budge/shake if you try to do so physically. The mount should be rock solid.
First things first. Know one is a noob here. So please do not state so. Feel free to ask questions. Reset the BIOS as TopGear has mentioned, and forget about the RAM for now. Let it run as it is, out of the box. Also check the TIM as requested, and inspect the HSF (heat sink fan) assembly. It should not budge/shake if you try to do so physically. The mount should be rock solid.
cosmos
Broken In
1. I am currently using friend's laptop as I'm too afraid to start my system..Will start my PC after posting this message and reset the BIOS as told by Topgear
2. I didn't use any TIM while installing the CPU fan as the default heat sink fan provided in the i7 rig already had Thermal Paste applied at it's base. Isn't that enough?
3. I will check the HSF position and alignment and update you on that.
Thanks for the update
Cheers,
Cosmos
---------- Post added at 09:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:01 PM ----------
Guyz,
Found out the main problem...As i installed the whole PC myself i had improperly fitted the CPU fan and hence it was loose. Just tightened it completely and now it sits firmly on the Processor.
Chk out the new temperature which changed by 40degrees
*img28.imageshack.us/img28/5481/newcputemp.png
Is it still high?
I haven't resetted the Bios till now but uninstalled the default Overclocking software provided by MSI. Is resetting BIOS necessary now?
Should i get a thermal paste as well?
Thanks again for your help Finally i can work on MY PC
Cheers,
Cosmos
2. I didn't use any TIM while installing the CPU fan as the default heat sink fan provided in the i7 rig already had Thermal Paste applied at it's base. Isn't that enough?
3. I will check the HSF position and alignment and update you on that.
Thanks for the update
Cheers,
Cosmos
---------- Post added at 09:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:01 PM ----------
Guyz,
Found out the main problem...As i installed the whole PC myself i had improperly fitted the CPU fan and hence it was loose. Just tightened it completely and now it sits firmly on the Processor.
Chk out the new temperature which changed by 40degrees
*img28.imageshack.us/img28/5481/newcputemp.png
Is it still high?
I haven't resetted the Bios till now but uninstalled the default Overclocking software provided by MSI. Is resetting BIOS necessary now?
Should i get a thermal paste as well?
Thanks again for your help
Finally i can work on MY PC Cheers,
Cosmos
asingh
Aspiring Novelist
^^
1. Remove the HSF.
2. Clean both contact surface with Isopropyl Alcohol (chemists have it). Do not let any liquid seep into the socket. Let it naturally dry.
3. Buy CM Nano Fusion TIM. Spread that evenly. Thin layer -- very thin, on the CPU header.
4. Mount the HSF firmly.
5. Reset BIOS as above.
6. Monitor Temperatures.
7. Report back.
1. Remove the HSF.
2. Clean both contact surface with Isopropyl Alcohol (chemists have it). Do not let any liquid seep into the socket. Let it naturally dry.
3. Buy CM Nano Fusion TIM. Spread that evenly. Thin layer -- very thin, on the CPU header.
4. Mount the HSF firmly.
5. Reset BIOS as above.
6. Monitor Temperatures.
7. Report back.
cosmos
Broken In
@asigh -
Found these products on mediahome.in page:
*www.mediahome.in/index.php?option=...e&category_id=50&Itemid=53&vmcchk=1&Itemid=80
Is it safe or trustworthy to get it from there? This is because i just don't have time to get in from the shop which is 15km away from my house.
I was thinking of getting the Cooler master ThermalFusion 400 thermal paste quoted at Rs 450.
Cheers,
Cosmos
Found these products on mediahome.in page:
*www.mediahome.in/index.php?option=...e&category_id=50&Itemid=53&vmcchk=1&Itemid=80
Is it safe or trustworthy to get it from there? This is because i just don't have time to get in from the shop which is 15km away from my house.
I was thinking of getting the Cooler master ThermalFusion 400 thermal paste quoted at Rs 450.
Cheers,
Cosmos