Need to Upgrade my Exisiting Config [Greedy HAF]

d3p · Nov 25, 2011

Exsiting Config

1. What is the purpose of the computer? (Note: If you are planning to say multimedia, you will have to be more specific as all types of systems are capable of doing that)
A: Gaming @ HD Resolution, Watching HD Movies, Ripping Music, all other stuffs like Office, some electronic circuit simulations like Mathcad, Orcad, .......

2. Are you open to alternate ideas/products giving similar better performance but offering more VFM/ sellers? If not- why?
A: Yes, why not

3. What is your MAX budget?
A: 60k+ for upgrading, not for a complete Configurations. [Flexible Budget]

4. Planning to overclock?
A: Obviously Yes. Already have Venomous X for Processor.

5. Which OS are you planning to use?
A: Windows 7 Ultimate x64; already have.

6. How much hard drive space is needed?
A: already have two WD Cavair Black 1TB's in RAID 0 mirror.

7. What resolution will the screen run at & whats the size of the screen you want? If you already want have one and want to use it, mention its resolution and size.
A: 5760x1080 ; Yes, its not a typo. Its Nvidia Surround 2D is required.

8. How would you rate your hardware knowledge from the count of 1-10? (1 being the lowest, 5 being you are somewhat in sync with the current performers and 10 being the highest)
A:7-8

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
A: Yes, number of times.

10. When are you planning to buy the system?
A: Within Jan 2011

11. Are you one of the types looking out for "future proof" configurations?
A: Nothing is futureproof except PSU & Cabinet, which i have already.

12. Are there going to be any components that you don't want to include in this new rig? If yes, do mention.
A: Processor, Motherboard, RAMs, Cabinet, PSU, HDD, KB, Mouse, Speakers, webcam, Headphones.

13. Which city do you live in and are you open to buying from shops from other city/states?
A: Few from Online & mostly local shops preferred.

14. Mention any other points if deemed necessary
A: Basically I need 3 Monitors, each of 24inch LED Full HD.
Another GTX570 1280MB.
Another UPS for CPU, as existing Microtek 1KVA will be used for Monitors only.

So feed your comments over Monitors & GPU upgrade.

TBH I don't have any plans for 3D Surround as of now.

December end is deadline.

Jaskanwar Singh · Nov 25, 2011

2 more OptX 2210 @ 30-35k?

for GTX570 surround, a nice article -
The Effect of GPU Memory on Surround & Stereo 3D Performance - Page 5
so do you play witcher 2 and shogun 2? :-D

d3p · Nov 25, 2011

Well i'm thinking of some 24inches or even bigger after selling off existing Alienware 2210 OptX.

& do you think 570 SLI is worth for 5760x1080 ????

Jaskanwar Singh · Nov 25, 2011

imo sell off your gtx570 and get a EVGA GTX570 2.5GB in sli.
or a 6970 cfx for eyefinity.

or why dont you wait till HD7000 come.

Extreme Gamer · Nov 25, 2011

you are semi-screwed at 60k, if you want quality IPS panels (dell only sells the slow 8ms IPS panels here, not the 5ms ones).

In TN you get good choices but then its 45k for 3 decent monitors.

I doubt you can get a 570 at 15k, and then the 1.25GB in SLI will be a problem for a number of games.

In your case I'd get a 1600p monitor, sell the 570 and then get two 2.5GB 570s

d3p · Nov 25, 2011

Ok pushed the budget to 1l.
Whats the possible solution then ?

Probably selling existing monitor & Graphics Card.

Extreme Gamer · Nov 25, 2011

Two GTX 580 3GBs and 3 45k TN panels

I'd also suggest that you get 12GB RAM.

vizkid2005 · Nov 25, 2011

+1 for 2 GTX580s ... or if u could wait for the HD7000 series ... if ure putting this much money in wait 4 HD7000 IMO strictly ... otherwise 4 now 2 580s are best ...

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d3p · Nov 26, 2011

Do you guys think my AX850 can take that sh!t ????

vickybat · Nov 26, 2011

^^ Buddy if you are ready to splurge 100k, then i strictly suggest to hold your horses until amd 7 series and nvidia kepler show up. They are going to be 28nm gpu's and therefore will consume far less power compared to current cards.

No point in buying another 570 as it will be cramped in a triple monitor resolution. A 69502gb cf will surpass it due to extra vram.

For monitors,skip the tn's and go for ips panels. Dell's u2311h (led version) or Asus PA238Q or the newly released 248Q. All of them are excellent and will have much better colour reproduction than TN panels.

Btw when did a 2.5gb 570 was launched??

Extreme Gamer · Nov 26, 2011

Deb I noticed the PSU just now. You need at least 1000W to be able to not peak out your power draw.

Vicky EVGA had launched it.

also those Dell ones wont cut it because the response time is 8ms. There will be significant frame lag especially in multiplayer.

Even the Asus one is slow. You want 5ms or less.

The Sorcerer · Nov 26, 2011

Extreme Gamer said:
dell only sells the slow 8ms IPS panels here, not the 5ms ones

Overexaggeration. It doesn't matter. Manufacturers label Gray to White to Gray's response times as 5, but usually black to black response time somewhere around 8-ish (in this day of age, newer models, atleast a year older ones) which does the job. Don't fall for marketing dialogues.

2x GTX 580s? Gaming on which screen resolution.

vickybat · Nov 26, 2011

Extreme Gamer said:
Deb I noticed the PSU just now. You need at least 1000W to be able to not peak out your power draw.

Vicky EVGA had launched it.

also those Dell ones wont cut it because the response time is 8ms. There will be significant frame lag especially in multiplayer.

Even the Asus one is slow. You want 5ms or less.

There will be no such problem. Sorcerer is right. Its a marketing gimmick. They usually label grey to grey response time and its not a correct measure. So a 2ms display is not actually 2ms but much higher.

Nowadays, none of the lcd panel types produce ghosting due to fast moving images. Both the dell and asus will do a wonderful job in op's case.

@ Sorcerer

Buddy he's going for a triple monitor setup i.e an effective resolution of 5760x1080.

Extreme Gamer · Nov 26, 2011

Its no gimmick. The Contrast Ratios, Colour gamuts etc usually are.

The problem is that the input-lag, multiplayer latency add to the response time and so you are a few frames behind what is actually happening. This is enough in a multiplayer match to make you look like a bad player. Even SLI/CF add to the latency.

I was not talking about ghosting. Sorry if it looked that way.

vickybat · Nov 26, 2011

^^ Oh i guess i got you wrong. Can you post some more detailed info about how response time effects a multiplayer session and how input-lag has anything to do with it?

Some good articles will do just fine. Really want know more about it.

Extreme Gamer · Nov 26, 2011

A friend of mine who uses IPS panels told me about this.

Display lag - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The thing with SLI/CF is that the image processing induced latency increases as the data is transferred back and forth between the GPUs.

d3p · Nov 26, 2011

Ok, Here's Phase 1.

Monitors : Asus VK278Q 27" LED - 20k each at Golcha IT.
Stand : Deluxe Triple Monitor Stand 28inch Each -6k
APC : APC BR1500 - 12k

Racing Wheel : Logitech G27 - 15k + Racing Wheel Stand - 5k

GPU : Mostly Nvidia Kepler. [(Spare Budget of 60k)Undecided at the moment]

But if not Kepler then, can my AX850 drive a 580 3GB SLI ????

Extreme Gamer · Nov 26, 2011

It could but you will be very near its rated power in most GPU intensive games.

MegaMind · Nov 26, 2011

d3p5kor said:
But if not Kepler then, can my AX850 drive a 580 3GB SLI ????[/B]

AX850 should be fine..

Extreme Gamer · Nov 26, 2011

Megamind: no. It will be close to rated draw and OCing will be a PITA. You want an HX1000 or something man.

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