Movies Discussion Thread V1: Ratings and Opinions

rhitwick

Democracy is a myth
Could you elaborate on that? I haven't seen the movie, but read your review. Would like to know what specifically you thought was ground breaking. :smile:

First of all, they way they have used profanity in this movie. Those are abuses always but they way they handled it was new.

Go back to Vishal Bhardwaj's Omkara and then there is Gangajal. In these two movies swearing are used too but I found them too hard on ears. They are actually meant to be insulting but in Delhi Belly abuses are blend in common conversations.

Now, there are people who have least bit idea that people could talk this way or a conversation can be composed with so many swearings. But it happens. Profanity in Delhi Belly does not stay with you when the movie ends, what stays is the experience of the ride u just took.

Then use of vulgarity. There was Raj Kapoor who also took brave steps to include sensual frames in his movies. But those were placed to build the character. Delhi Belly also uses this method but in a very brief scene and again for character building.

The scene in brothel just shows how comfortable Nitin is with the environment there.
Then Tashi's scene with Menaka in hotel. In hell lot of movies its shown but here they focused on other parts too (literally). Again for character building.

This movie once again brought grey protagonist in bollywood.
 

Anorion

Sith Lord
Staff member
Admin
^true dat, it tried doing all that, but it was not vulger enough, nor did it show vulgarity in a familiar enough realistic setting that most people would accept... its not really realistic, (say the way Y Tu Mama Tambien was realistic). no one really speaks like that, you dont see the 1billion+ variations of english that people speak here, this was some weird hinglish language made for the movie, and everyone were speaking in some strange accent.
also, the people were living guttural lives but talking about stuff from outer space (gay necrophiliac? come on)
one more important thing, the swearing was used very liberally without its costs being apparent at any point, so this means the swearing loses its intensity, at which point it isnt become swearing at all
this ground has been broken before, in Indian cinema, more than ten years ago by a movie called Urf Professor (Video 2001) - IMDb.
when I saw Delhi Belly I couldnt help but compare it to this movie, and how much better this was. The dialogues are realistic, with english, hindi, marathi and gujrati used in just the right amounts that we see around Mumbai. Those speaking in English don't have bizarro accents. Its all very real, very natural, and a lot more vulgar to boot.

What I dont appreciate is the newfound tendency of hindi movies to release with nothing but a series of dirty dirty things in them, an I totally blame the audience for these.
 

asingh

Aspiring Novelist
What irked me about Delhi Belly, and things which Aamir+Rao are trying of lately, is to put realism in a movie which actually never exists. Show larger than life and call it larger than life. Even the dialogues of Omkara were fabricated for situations but they made sense to the location. I have lived in those parts of UP, and people speak like that. I have TOO lived in Delhi, and believe me no one speaks in this manner. The swearing was thrown in just for the heck of it. Some sort of CGI affect which would delight the audience--which it likely did. Then the utterly gross scenes were totally a turn off, and bought bile to my mouth. Not for the reason that they were what they were, but for the sense to which the director is trying to show us. Who goes down on a woman and picks up a ringing cell..? Either Aamir has never done it, or was on loco weed while scripting/directing this movie. Yea, we all know Aamir has a penchant to "shadow direct". No one in their senses or even upon orders by Hitler would do with juice what they showed in the movie. It is pure dumbness at the heights of insanity. I would call this below average cinema, and something which even Aamir will deny he have had a hand in----say 10 years from now.
 

rhitwick

Democracy is a myth
I have lived in those parts of UP, and people speak like that. I have TOO lived in Delhi, and believe me no one speaks in this manner.
And @anorion. One thing you got right that the way profanity is used this movie they lost the impact. I would say that was the intent. They tried to show that way of conversation is common. I can't help if you did not belong to a group where abuses were used in a way when its no more an abuse. I, unfortunately stayed in hostel and observed various kind of groups. Some were too colorful while speaking some totally pristine.

First thing you need to understand that the movie is not going to reach all Indian audience. Its directed to a bunch of audience who would understand the black comedy of it and could find the subtle funny moments in it.

Again, people are going to dislike (and like) it depending on their view of the world. There are areas where even speaking "sh1t" is considered a sin and areas where "mofo" is common. You might find yourself unrelated to the ongoings of the movie but you can't claim that might not be a reality somewhere.



The swearing was thrown in just for the heck of it. Some sort of CGI affect which would delight the audience--which it likely did. Then the utterly gross scenes were totally a turn off, and bought bile to my mouth. Not for the reason that they were what they were, but for the sense to which the director is trying to show us. Who goes down on a woman and picks up a ringing cell..?
Why not?!!! This is only possible with very good comfort level between partners. It would have been un-imaginable if that was their first time. Given the comfort level I assumed "sex" is now a routine task for them. They are no more discovering each other. The places are a known teritory for them.

But that scene was not new/first time for me. There is a short movie in bengali (30 mins only) which dealt with love, sex, god, theism, atheism, morality, profanity and all other common moral topics. There was a similar scene but a better and shocking one.
Just imagine Tashi brought out his head of Sonia's gown and removing her pubic hair. That was in the bengali movie
If you are interested to watch that offbeat movie, check here
‪y2k sex krome aasiteche2‬‏ - YouTube
(The scene starts @2:13 min and FYI, the beginning of the clip is a conversation between God and a common person who unintentionally got a visit)

Either Aamir has never done it, or was on loco weed while scripting/directing this movie. Yea, we all know Aamir has a penchant to "shadow direct".
I don't get it, why you are on a Amir bashing spree! Do you have any proof that other than producing he had any contribution to the movie. No, I'm not his fan but you just have no right to assume something and openly bash someone.

No one in their senses or even upon orders by Hitler would do with juice what they showed in the movie. It is pure dumbness at the heights of insanity.
Why not?!!! He wanted to wash and there was no water. What is your solution for it. He could have wiped with paper obviously, but he preferred washing. Well he did, in the world of "Delhi Belly" Nitin preferred washing and only thing in vicinity was juice!!! Its not the fault of a movie if you are limited by your imagination.

I would call this below average cinema, and something which even Aamir will deny he have had a hand in----say 10 years from now.
Aamir is an intelligent person and he just broke a floodgate. If not by a huge number but in small quantities such movies would be made now. Producers and scriptwriters got a chance that sensor board can pass such movies with adult rating.
Expect mayhem, use umbrella.
 

asingh

Aspiring Novelist
And @anorion. One thing you got right that the way profanity is used this movie they lost the impact. I would say that was the intent. They tried to show that way of conversation is common. I can't help if you did not belong to a group where abuses were used in a way when its no more an abuse. I, unfortunately stayed in hostel and observed various kind of groups. Some were too colorful while speaking some totally pristine.
Duh-viously it lost the impact. And that is the beginning of the downfall of this magnum opus per say by Aamir Khan. I too have lived in a hostel, and that too a hard-core UP hostel. And also lived in Delhi hostels. No, they do not swear like this. Yes, the do not mean MC,BC when they say it to someone, but no one speaks in such a crap accent, and just shoves in swear words with normal speech usage. It should be vice-versa, with speech punched with swear words. It is not being able to not digest the swear words or the foul language used in the movie. It was not needed. Most would agree to that. This was not some gangsta movie or a back drop of an underworld movie. It was a bunch of sissy-a$$ed guys acting like girls. :)

First thing you need to understand that the movie is not going to reach all Indian audience. Its directed to a bunch of audience who would understand the black comedy of it and could find the subtle funny moments in it.
Yes, it did not reach out to me, nor I want to reach out to it. So I will handle it with a barge pole. Happy.

Again, people are going to dislike (and like) it depending on their view of the world. There are areas where even speaking "sh1t" is considered a sin and areas where "mofo" is common. You might find yourself unrelated to the ongoings of the movie but you can't claim that might not be a reality somewhere.
Yes I found this a dumb movie, and would never relate to it. God help those who would.

Why not?!!! This is only possible with very good comfort level between partners. It would have been un-imaginable if that was their first time. Given the comfort level I assumed "sex" is now a routine task for them. They are no more discovering each other. The places are a known teritory for them.
No matter how good the comfort level, you just do not answer the phone when doing this, unless you are:

1. Don Johnson
2. Chuck Norris
3. LAPD/NYPD

Those women (actors) were nothing of that sort. :)

I don't get it, why you are on a Amir bashing spree! Do you have any proof that other than producing he had any contribution to the movie. No, I'm not his fan but you just have no right to assume something and openly bash someone.
Because he has become dumb in his movies -- of late. He is part of the media and bollywood, guess he should have to face it.

Why not?!!! He wanted to wash and there was no water. What is your solution for it. He could have wiped with paper obviously, but he preferred washing. Well he did, in the world of "Delhi Belly" Nitin preferred washing and only thing in vicinity was juice!!! Its not the fault of a movie if you are limited by your imagination.
Dislike for this does not show limitation of imagination. It shows logical reasoning and sanity. And likeness shows fanboyism.

Aamir is an intelligent person and he just broke a floodgate. If not by a huge number but in small quantities such movies would be made now. Producers and scriptwriters got a chance that sensor board can pass such movies with adult rating.
Expect mayhem, use umbrella.
Yea, he sure did. Expect more sh$$ to pour in every Friday, like we were doing well with the high quality coming in anyways. Kudos.
 

Anorion

Sith Lord
Staff member
Admin
hmm, everything that Delhi Belly has to offer is available in any B-Grade film, not that all of it is bad tho, Gunda has a 7.6 on IMDB
except the biscuit part, dont really know what it means lol
people are not uniformly offended by everything bad, one guy may spit out a bunch of obscenities about sex, but become nauseous when it comes to gore, and the guy who goes on a SAW marathon may get a stomach upset during a romantic scene, so any movie based on "crossing the line" is bound to get it all wrong, its better to go for an authentic representation of how things are and hope people can stomach it rather than try and make everyone comfortable with things they are not, or even shouldnt be
also, one of the sacred cornerstones of hindi cinema is innocent looking dialogues with double meanings... this is an old tradition and is one gimmick that always has the audience in splits. when this can easily be done, there is no need to stylize or glorify muck, which is just early 1990s sensibilities of the whole "bad is good" deal kicking in two decades late on screen.
also, id like to see some good black comedy, not come across one after being cyrus
 

esumitkumar

Call me Sumit
I will say DELHI BELLY is a must watch movie
for all those who loved "A CLOCKWORK ORANGE" :D

I love Delhi Belly ..

specially that sehgal type song "duniya main pyar jab barse ..na jane kyun yeh dil tarse"
 

abhidev

Human Spambot
'Delhi belly' is indeed a must watch coz i found it funny simple...there's nothing to give it thorough thought...just watch, enjoy and forget.


Well watched 'Singham' yesterday...if i had known before that the actress is form the 'Magadheera' movie...i would have watched it as soon as i got it:))(had this movie in pc from past 3 days)...well the its really a funny movie and some of the scenes and dialogues are really hilarious....'Aata majhi satakli re' :D
 

Rahim

Married!
Quite a good discussion and it is heartening to see posts longer than 2 lines :D

Yah Delhi Belly is a must watch with friends :D
 

a_medico

Chillum Baba
Stanley Ka Dabba - Exceeded my expectations. Deja vu written all over it. Felt like I am back in school. Loved Amol Gupte as an actor too.
 

asingh

Aspiring Novelist
Will be starting the POTA Pentalogy soon. Then will watch the 2001 one. Tidings for the latest offering.
 

rhitwick

Democracy is a myth
Duh-viously it lost the impact.
I beg to differ ... again. IMO that was the intent only.

This was not some gangsta movie or a back drop of an underworld movie. It was a bunch of sissy-a$$ed guys acting like girls. :)

Yes I found this a dumb movie, and would never relate to it. God help those who would.


No matter how good the comfort level, you just do not answer the phone when doing this, unless you are:

1. Don Johnson
2. Chuck Norris
3. LAPD/NYPD

Dislike for this does not show limitation of imagination. It shows logical reasoning and sanity. And likeness shows fanboyism.

I can only say that you live by setting certain rules. Anything that happens outside that is insane, nonsense, dumb and impossible. You ask "Why?" and I ask "why not?"

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.


Because he has become dumb in his movies -- of late. He is part of the media and bollywood, guess he should have to face it.

Just this part is totally biased and opinionated. You are just bashing him cause you just feel like it.

Yea, he sure did. Expect more sh$$ to pour in every Friday, like we were doing well with the high quality coming in anyways. Kudos.
Ya, sad for me. But congrats to you as you are going to save a considerable amount of money for not visiting cinema theaters.

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Stanley ka dabba 7.5/10

Good movie but has a docu environment to it. Lacks a strong story. Then again, may be that was the intent....to present a heavy issue in a light tone. Amol Gupte and his son Partho as Stanley is good.

Rest are so so.

Stanley Ka Dabba - Exceeded my expectations. Deja vu written all over it. Felt like I am back in school. Loved Amol Gupte as an actor too.

Hey you watched too today!!!

I like Amol Gupte's acting. He did a marvelous job in Kaminey and then in Phas Gaye Re Obama.
 

asingh

Aspiring Novelist
Guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

Ya, sad for me. But congrats to you as you are going to save a considerable amount of money for not visiting cinema theaters.

About time. Yea. :)

And not to say, considerable amount of time too...!
 

pratik385

In the zone
anyone has watched planes, trains and automobiles? its really a lmao movie :D
Loved it totally, John candy and steve martin :)
 

TheMost

Simply.. Evolution !!
^ U sure ??
I Didn't watch it but when i just skipped through some scenes it was nice ...
And also had good speech about that in rotten toma.. and IMDB //
 

ajayritik

Technomancer
^ U sure ??
I Didn't watch it but when i just skipped through some scenes it was nice ...
And also had good speech about that in rotten toma.. and IMDB //

Actually when I watched it initially by skipping through some scenes it looked good as well which made me watch the movie. However the movie overall is not that great.
 
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