Movies Discussion Thread V1: Ratings and Opinions
eggman
I have Yolks not Brains!
Kitna baar bolu???
Hollywood BUYS RIGHT before remaking,bollywood doesnot!!! Do not even acknowledge the films!!!! You do know the difference between RIPPING OFF and REMAKING , don't you???
btw, how did you guys watch SLUMDOG MILLIONARE so early???is it out
'there'???
Hollywood BUYS RIGHT before remaking,bollywood doesnot!!! Do not even acknowledge the films!!!! You do know the difference between RIPPING OFF and REMAKING , don't you???
btw, how did you guys watch SLUMDOG MILLIONARE so early???is it out
'there'???
ionicsachin
Ambassador of Buzz
Memento was faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar better........
jack_the_ripper
Dragon!
dudee! come on.. i just watched memento for the umpteenth time!! It really pains to see such a good movie, made into a romantic bollywood movie with songs in between !! Hollywood is not god, even bollywood has original scripts (?) but will some one pleaaase tell bollywood to stay away from masterpieces.!
iMav
The Devil's Advocate
Thank you for the enlightenment! We were sleeping till you came along.
So how does buying rights mean that Hollywood's movies are better or worse? Talk about the movie and not the legal aspects of it. What's wrong legally is wrong, let the producers bother about it. But, saying that Bollywood rips off and therefore it sucks is plain immaturity on one's part. Indian movies (Bollywood) have always had longer story, song & dance. That's Bollywod/Indian movie "culture" just because they add songs into a movie that was made in Hollywood doesn't mean that the movie is crap or whatever. Bollywood movies are made for an audience that likes the song & dance in Ghajini.
Stop comparing Hollywood & Bollywood everytime a copy is released.
@jack, Ghajini is a remake of a South movie, I did not see a single post by anyone condemning it the way it is being done now. Why is that? And as far as masterpieces go, no director plans to fcuk a movie. When you're making a movie you make to sell & be appreciated for it. Songs are an integral part of our movie culture, we, the ones who call ourselves great critics & start calling movies as "masterpieces" need to understand that.
Every time an alleged copy is released we start comparing 7 giving our verdict. Never will we consider it as a single entity give our views, that ok this was good or that was bad. It's always, they have music sh!theads. How can you have songs in a movie?
Comparing is fair, comparisons should be made but bashing a movie because it did not "buy" the rights or it added songs is stupid.
The sensibilities of an Indian audience are way different than those in the West, YOU need to understand that. Ghajini has beautiful songs! I too find songs ruin the fun of the movie, but that's our "movie culture"
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eggman
I have Yolks not Brains!
It's not about better or worse(which bolly coincidentally are). It's about paying respect(and money) to someone from who's work you are been inspired!!! Say You post a great tech article in Digit. I like it so much that I rewrite the same context in my words in my college magazine and people /teachers' start to appreciate me!!!Now I can either 1)Tell everyone ,who is now my appreciator now ,that it was actually inspired by you. PM you and thank you , because without you I wouldn't have had my article written (Better still, I take your permission before even writing it) 2) Take all the credit!!Even deny if someone else starts to accuse me!!!
You will have no Idea about my wrong doing in case (2),hence you won't sue me.
It doesn't matter if I write it with respect to my college culture, add some local examples and all things that will make my article more related to my coll buddies than you!!! It's not tough!! But is it right???
1) is hollywood !
2) is bollywood!
Funny thing is bollywood rips so much that people don't think it's a 'big deal' now a days!!! It's like if there's a bomb blast every day!!! You forget how bad it is, you loose out the effect!!!
You will have no Idea about my wrong doing in case (2),hence you won't sue me.
It doesn't matter if I write it with respect to my college culture, add some local examples and all things that will make my article more related to my coll buddies than you!!! It's not tough!! But is it right???
1) is hollywood !
2) is bollywood!
Funny thing is bollywood rips so much that people don't think it's a 'big deal' now a days!!! It's like if there's a bomb blast every day!!! You forget how bad it is, you loose out the effect!!!
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pr.itdude
tHe nEw gEEk......ITian
Yes, this is the matter of fight club......!!
but i also think that its gud to watch hollywood movies or some other culture movies but dont forget u r an indian first........and some movies are masterpiece and shows our culture........if we also make our indian movies like hollwood then what will be the difference b/w two......then no one would say it bollywood.........
Also,if u cant like to watch it, then plz never do but dont blame indian cinema then and its viewer........
And moreover, its a personal matter...... i watch both hindi and eng flicks.....
some ppl like bolly some holly movies.......!!
And plz end this discussion.........!!
but i also think that its gud to watch hollywood movies or some other culture movies but dont forget u r an indian first........and some movies are masterpiece and shows our culture........if we also make our indian movies like hollwood then what will be the difference b/w two......then no one would say it bollywood.........
Also,if u cant like to watch it, then plz never do but dont blame indian cinema then and its viewer........
And moreover, its a personal matter...... i watch both hindi and eng flicks.....
some ppl like bolly some holly movies.......!!
And plz end this discussion.........!!
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iMav
The Devil's Advocate
LOL! You are talking as if the people here have all paid respect (money) for the countless movies recommended here, honestly answer yourselves how many of you have bought the DVDs or even went to the theater to watch the movies you so highly respect. Rip-offs are not a matter for you and me to decide, let the producers battle it out.
But, again coming to Ghajini, I never saw you talking about copyrights when the southern version was released. Why was that?
PS: Last post on the topic from me, abuse me as much as you want to here onward, but you guys need to open your eyes & understand the audience a movie is made for.
But, again coming to Ghajini, I never saw you talking about copyrights when the southern version was released. Why was that?
PS: Last post on the topic from me, abuse me as much as you want to here onward, but you guys need to open your eyes & understand the audience a movie is made for.
pr.itdude
tHe nEw gEEk......ITian
ya.......see ghajini....although its so called tamil version or remake.....
but i hadn't watched the tamil muvee and never will..........so if ghajini would not be there then im not going to know abt this plot line of movie........
its a gud movie dude......watch it...!!
And i forgot to tell u one think, if u ppl also got msg frm ur frndz depicting the story line of ghazini like "...... ghajini is amir itself and killed gf .........blah blah".........its totally wrong amir is not ghajini in the movie......to find better u watch.....
but i hadn't watched the tamil muvee and never will..........so if ghajini would not be there then im not going to know abt this plot line of movie........
its a gud movie dude......watch it...!!
And i forgot to tell u one think, if u ppl also got msg frm ur frndz depicting the story line of ghazini like "...... ghajini is amir itself and killed gf .........blah blah".........its totally wrong amir is not ghajini in the movie......to find better u watch.....
jack_the_ripper
Dragon!
lets call a truce
fine i agree no one bashed the tamil movie then coz not many must have watched it! jokes apart, keepin the songs and copyright factors aside, even the story of the...... ahh well im not arguin on this.!
vaibhav_jain
GOD
must see 13zmaeti, machuca(spanish), the hero(mandarin), your name is justine(polish), Buenos aires 1977(spanish), 3-iron(korean). these are best of all times. i see on world movies.
Psychosocial
Violent serenity.
Wow iMav, you really opened my eyes!
[*goes off to the nearest store to buy 100000s of Bollywood CDs and DVDs bcoz iMav uncle is paid to advertise Bollywood.]
BTW guys, do watch Momento. Its a great movie but sadly its ruined by our great 'BOLLYWOOD'! Yay!
[*goes off to the nearest store to buy 100000s of Bollywood CDs and DVDs bcoz iMav uncle is paid to advertise Bollywood.]
BTW guys, do watch Momento. Its a great movie but sadly its ruined by our great 'BOLLYWOOD'! Yay!
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ionicsachin
Ambassador of Buzz
Memento is #27 in IMDB and is "Nominated for 2 Oscars. Another 42 wins & 32 nominations"
rhitwick
Democracy is a myth
Ok, iMav U opened my eyes, no, seriously, not joking.Thank you for the enlightenment! We were sleeping till you came along.
So how does buying rights mean that Hollywood's movies are better or worse? Talk about the movie and not the legal aspects of it. What's wrong legally is wrong, let the producers bother about it. But, saying that Bollywood rips off and therefore it sucks is plain immaturity on one's part. Indian movies (Bollywood) have always had longer story, song & dance. That's Bollywod/Indian movie "culture" just because they add songs into a movie that was made in Hollywood doesn't mean that the movie is crap or whatever. Bollywood movies are made for an audience that likes the song & dance in Ghajini.
Stop comparing Hollywood & Bollywood everytime a copy is released.
@jack, Ghajini is a remake of a South movie, I did not see a single post by anyone condemning it the way it is being done now. Why is that? And as far as masterpieces go, no director plans to fcuk a movie. When you're making a movie you make to sell & be appreciated for it. Songs are an integral part of our movie culture, we, the ones who call ourselves great critics & start calling movies as "masterpieces" need to understand that.
Every time an alleged copy is released we start comparing 7 giving our verdict. Never will we consider it as a single entity give our views, that ok this was good or that was bad. It's always, they have music sh!theads. How can you have songs in a movie?
Comparing is fair, comparisons should be made but bashing a movie because it did not "buy" the rights or it added songs is stupid.
The sensibilities of an Indian audience are way different than those in the West, YOU need to understand that. Ghajini has beautiful songs! I too find songs ruin the fun of the movie, but that's our "movie culture"
I agree that we are accustomed to see those in movies; songs, dance, cliché, too much senti, dramatic style of dialog delivery etc.
But thats how we've grown to it. Now u've (ahem) access to international titles doesn't mean that our movies are crap. How could u forget this is US, this is how we did for years.
BUT, for remakes, I want to say one thing however Indianize u turn an original script at least see it has its soul in place. If all remakes are good (reading ur posts seems like this) then Partner, God Tussi Great Ho etc are a milestone in Indian film history as they ahve told a totally new story.
But actually they flopped, u know why? because (I think) the director (scriptwriter) thought as its totally new they can show anything. But aisa nahi chalta hai aur nahi chalega. People r no fool anymore. Even dumb remakes of old hindi movies (Karzzzz, Victoria No203 etc) didn't work because of plot treatment and presentation.
Ok, I promise, I won't compare Ghajini with Memento but don't u think 3hrs is too much for it. Matlab thora wo ho jata hai na??!!
Psychosocial
Violent serenity.
^^I dont say all Bolly movies are crap. Movies like Taare Zameen Par, A Wednesday, etc are really good movies.
iMav
The Devil's Advocate
And you are paid to bash it?
And the South edition was over the top?
Did you know that "The Departed" was a copy of a Korean movie? Guess what? It was a hit! Not because it was a "copy" or made by Hollywood, but because it was done nicely, it did justice to the original. Don was a remake it was a success. Flop or Hit is not decided by the fact that Bollywood copied Hollywood hence by defacto rule 309 the movie is a flop.
If the remake is done nicely, the movie is a hit, if not it flops! As simple as that. Movie good- Hit, movie bad-flop. Whether its a remake or a new make, DOESN'T MATTER. Whether there are songs or no, doesn't matter. Oh and btw, Partner was not a flop from what I understand.
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