Mid-Range w/ PSU recommendation [Budget b/w 6.5K to 8.5K]

Myth

Cyborg Agent
You can give a few stats while gaming. fps, temp, noise. Elaborate on those points and you have a review :p
 

topgear

Super Moderator
Staff member
Review?? I am bad at those thing.. , i can give an opinion...

ok .. whatever you like ;-) but do try to include the points Myth has asked for and if possible see how far you can OC it without touching voltage of-course and one piece of advice : don't use furmark/kombuster if you love your gpu.
 

Myth

Cyborg Agent
ok .. whatever you like ;-) but do try to include the points Myth has asked for and if possible see how far you can OC it without touching voltage of-course and one piece of advice : don't use furmark/kombuster if you love your gpu.

I am using MSI afterburner. Kombuster is installed but i use 3dmark vantage. Gfx card as in signature. Is this ok ?
 
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anirbandd

anirbandd

Conversation Architect
You can give a few stats while gaming. fps, temp, noise. Elaborate on those points and you have a review :p

okay.. will try. :)

The card looks sweet :)

congrats

Thanks bro! :)

ok .. whatever you like ;-) but do try to include the points Myth has asked for and if possible see how far you can OC it without touching voltage of-course and one piece of advice : don't use furmark/kombuster if you love your gpu.

hmmm.. OC on my rig?? the UPS?
whats with Kombuster? combusts the card? :p i am using only afterburner.

Review:

NO Overclocking. All default Settings.

FPS: have played only NFSMW reboot and Borderlands 2 and Saints Row III, all on highest settings. Gives 60FPS constant, no sweat. Only on NFS, sometimes the FPS drops to 30-40 for a sec or so.. I am installing BF3 as i write this. so will be able to give feedback in a few days.

TEMP: During NFS, the temp is around 50C. During Borderlands2 its around 45C. Have not seen on SR3. Idle temp [normal desktop work/photoshop] 34-36C.

NOISE: I have left the fan speed on auto, which has gone up to a maxm of 45% during NFS. I could only hear the fan whining while listening intently. No audible sounds with headphones (Philips) on. So i guess its pretty quiet. But i had cranked up the fan speed to 100% while NOT gaming, to see if there any noise. It was quite audible, the likes of a crap PSU.
 

topgear

Super Moderator
Staff member
no overclocking the GPU only will put ~15-30W of additional load on your UPS and Kombuster is used to benchmark and test stability of a OCed GPU.
 
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anirbandd

anirbandd

Conversation Architect
alright.. wil try that...

btw, having so many benchmarking s/w on the web, suggest me ONE, the BEST, test bench. ONE. BEST.
 
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anirbandd

anirbandd

Conversation Architect
hum.. okay..

Battlefield 3 on MSI R7770

Mission: Op. Swordbreaker.

Video setting: ULTRA, 1024*768, V-Sync-ed to 60Hz.

FPS: Constant 60, no sweat.

TEMP: 50C.

Noise: Inaudible with headphones on. Slight whine if listened intently.
 
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anirbandd

anirbandd

Conversation Architect
Ghost recon: Future Soldier on MSI R7770

Mission: First, Second, now on third..

Video setting: Maxed out, 1024*768, V-Sync-ed to 60Hz.

FPS: Constant 60, no sweat.

TEMP: 55C.

Noise: Inaudible with headphones on. Slight whine if listened intently.

Yay!!
 
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Myth

Cyborg Agent
^^
Great. Is this 60fps limitation due to the monitor ?
How does one find out if a moniter can have more than 60fps while gaming ?
 
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anirbandd

anirbandd

Conversation Architect
I have Vsynced it to 60Hz. it can go above that, i think...

my monitor refresh rate is 60Hz. so if the frame is say 80, then in one second 20Hz will be redundant or lost. For slow moving or still scenes this is okay. but, in a fast moving scene, like when you are moving the mouse fast to shoot a guy, those missing 20frames will cause tears in the motion, causing it to be jagged.

i think the net FPS can be measured at the frame buffer, rather then at the display.
 

topgear

Super Moderator
Staff member
just mentioning one point : if your monitor has 60 Hz refresh rate and you turn on vsync games will give you around 60 fps .. now turning off the vsync in some games will boost the fps above 100fps and that really does matter when you are playing MP games - telling from my own experience.

and people wh are saying 60FPS is enough for fps games - well, that may be for but 100 fps makes the a whole lot better but turning off vsync may cause tearing issue but if the game and drivers are properly optimized then there's no chance of this issue to occur.
 
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anirbandd

anirbandd

Conversation Architect
yes i know.. i am manually tying up the frame rate to 60 using vsync.

i'll give it a try, though. :)
 
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anirbandd

anirbandd

Conversation Architect
i was trying to OC the card today.. i used MSI Afterburner and 3D mark 11..

FIRST TEST:
OC: Power Limit: +10%
Core Clock: 1010MHz
Mem Clock: 1125MHz
3DMark 11:
1024 x 768
MSAA x4
Tess x5
max Tess x15
Shadow Map Size: 5
Shadow cascade: 4
Shadow sample count: 8
Vol Illu: 5
Ambient Occlusion: 1
DoF: 1
RESULT:
Graphics Score: 3488

SECOND TEST:
OC: Power Limit: +10%
Core Clock: 1010MHz
Mem Clock: 1135MHz
3DMark 11:
1024 x 768
MSAA x4
Aniso: x8
Tess x5
max Tess x15
Shadow Map Size: 5
Shadow cascade: 4
Shadow sample count: 8
Vol Illu: 5
Ambient Occlusion: 1
DoF: 1
RESULT:
Graphics Score: 3206



THIRD TEST:
OC: Power Limit: +10%
Core Clock: 1015MHz
Mem Clock: 1135MHz
3DMark 11:
1024 x 768
MSAA x4
Tess x5
max Tess x15
Shadow Map Size: 5
Shadow cascade: 4
Shadow sample count: 8
Vol Illu: 5
Ambient Occlusion: 1
DoF: 1
RESULT:
Graphics Score: 3232




FOURTH TEST:
OC: Power Limit: +10%
Core Clock: 1020MHz
Mem Clock: 1125MHz
3DMark 11:
1024 x 768
MSAA x4
Tess x5
max Tess x15
Shadow Map Size: 5
Shadow cascade: 4
Shadow sample count: 8
Vol Illu: 5
Ambient Occlusion: 1
DoF: 1
RESULT:
Graphics Score: 3277

i am confused.. MSI is selling an OC version of the card @1020MHzCore/1125MHzMemory. but my results indicate that there is a performance drop at 1020MHz Core, and more performance at 1010MHz...

am i wrong somewhere??

btw, whay shouldnt i use furmark/kombustor?? the temperatures??
 

Myth

Cyborg Agent
furmark/kombustor are too stressing. Excessive load and high temps.
3dmark, Heaven are sufficient.
Monitor temps with hwinfo.
 
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anirbandd

anirbandd

Conversation Architect
OC: Power Limit: +10%
Core Clock: 1050MHz
Mem Clock: 1125MHz
3DMark 11:
1024 x 768
MSAA x4
Tess x5
max Tess x15
Shadow Map Size: 5
Shadow cascade: 4
Shadow sample count: 8
Vol Illu: 5
Ambient Occlusion: 1
DoF: 1
RESULT:
Graphics Score: 3351
 

topgear

Super Moderator
Staff member
OCing and benchmarking can be a treaky business - if a world record is what you are looking for then keep the screenshot of the best possible score but when you are about to meausre the performance then at-least run 3 benchmark runs and count on the average score.

anyway, can't say why you are doing the OC so slowly - keep the temps in check - set the clock speed to 1100 Mhz ( don't touch any volt settings now ) and set the mem to 1200 Mhz - feel the performance difference.

furmark/kombustor are too stressing. Excessive load and high temps.
3dmark, Heaven are sufficient.
Monitor temps with hwinfo.

and not to mention the excessive power draw ..sometime a lot more than what a gfx card is supposed to draw from psu - that's why some people call them 'power bug' ;-)
 
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anirbandd

anirbandd

Conversation Architect
1100 and 1200 in one go??? :O

actually i havent had any experience, wahtsoever, in OCing.

OC: Power Limit: +0
Core Clock: 1000MHz DEFAULT
Mem Clock: 1125MHz DEFAULT
3DMark 11:
1024 x 768
MSAA x4
Tess x5
max Tess x15
Shadow Map Size: 5
Shadow cascade: 4
Shadow sample count: 8
Vol Illu: 5
Ambient Occlusion: 1
DoF: 1
RESULT:
Graphics Score: 3230




OC: Power Limit: +10%
Core Clock: 1060MHz I did
Mem Clock: 1170MHz I did
3DMark 11:
1024 x 768
MSAA x4
Tess x5
max Tess x15
Shadow Map Size: 5
Shadow cascade: 4
Shadow sample count: 8
Vol Illu: 5
Ambient Occlusion: 1
DoF: 1
RESULT:
Graphics Score: 3353





OC: Power Limit: +10%
Core Clock: 1100MHz @topgear
Mem Clock: 1200MHz @topgear
3DMark 11:
1024 x 768
MSAA x4
Tess x5
max Tess x15
Shadow Map Size: 5
Shadow cascade: 4
Shadow sample count: 8
Vol Illu: 5
Ambient Occlusion: 1
DoF: 1
RESULT:
Graphics Score: 3465

there goes... you say how good that is from the default score
 

topgear

Super Moderator
Staff member
at lower resolution cpu plays a major role in manipulating gfx card related benchmark results so gfx card related benchmarks should be run at much higher resolution - at-least 1600*900 or at HD resolution - then you'll see the actual performance difference for sure .
 
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