Microsoft passes latest VB100 virus test; Some security giants fail !

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din

Tribal Boy
iMav said:
i hope things are now clear to drgrudge & din ;)

iMav, please do not start behaving immature again.

Your post sounds like drgrudge and din were confused on something and FatBeing cleared it !!!

A very senior member done a mistake (repeated many times) and many people objected it. drgrudge made it clear by explaining, you didn't get it (atleast you pretended so), I explained the same thing again, all agreed to that including that senior member. After that the topic got diverted by some others and finally FatBeing well explained and cleared the issue.

What FetBeing, drgrudge and din stated - are all exactly the same thing and that is for the goodwill of this forum and all members. That is not against anyone personally. Even the member involved in that agreed to that and I do not have any clue why you are still behind it.

Please stop behaving immature, please, thats a very personal request from me.

Others - I am extremely sorry for posting this, but I got provoked by iMav's immature post above. Sorry, please feel free to ignore my post.

Thank you.
 
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drgrudge

Another Brick in the Wall
iMav said:
i hope things are now clear to drgrudge & din ;) thank u fat being for clearing things and sorry choto sir for my off topic post :p
You talk as if I made a mistake. IMO, myself, din or anyone didn't. This issue happened for good. naveen_reloaded PMed me to clarify and I interfered. Since the rules weren't clear, I asked FatBeing to clarify.

You really provoke other members. Be warned.
 

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
ok i didnt want to post another off topic post but it seems i need to quote fatbeing here so please bear with my off topic post

FatBeing said:
The "source" issue:

1. Avoid reproducing entire articles: depending on the source, it might be illegal to reproduce content in its entirety. Partial reproduction with a citation is much less likely to cause legal hassles. Also, it's only fair that the person who wrote the article get a little traffic for his / her efforts.

damn u edited ur post u had clearly said that post full articles or dont post now u edited that :D that was i pointing out to thats all ... im outta here got some wallpapers to post ;) peace :p
 

din

Tribal Boy
iMav, please do not pretend that you didn't get it. This is what drgrudge, myself and all senior members here mentioned and finally clarified by FatBeing.

FatBeing said:
2. You're more than welcome to cite your personal blogs as sources, if (and only if) you are the original creator of the content. I've updated the rules to this effect.

What this means is that members should navigate thus: Digit > Original source and not Digit > member blog > original source.

Please come back to the topic.
 
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drgrudge

Another Brick in the Wall
iMav -Can you please point out where I edited? What I posted is still there for your inspection.
 

Cyrus_the_virus

Unmountable Boot Volume
I thought all the arguments should have been cleared by the time Fatbeing explained things. But still everyone keeps arguing abt what happened. *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/66.gif

I think the thread should be locked and made a sticky to clear any such future confusion. *gigasmilies.googlepages.com/43.gif
 
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anandk

anandk

Distinguished Member
I think only Fatbeing has understood my problem in this case, when he said : "Avoid reproducing entire articles: depending on the source, it might be illegal to reproduce content in its entirety. Partial reproduction with a citation is much less likely to cause legal hassles". Incidentally must repeat, Castlecops had no issues carrying 'this article' on its HomePage, as it appeared here; but some members/mods here did !

Now take this news too: Microsoft launches new website to create Secure Passwords. Its posted on my site. Saw it posted on Activewin Homepege too, linking back to my site. So, whom do I link it to, if I were to post it?

Several websites have no issues about carrying WinVistaClub link as source. Just think ! Why the fuss here? Because I am an old member and if the courtesy is accorded to me, shouldnt it be accorded to others too ? The issue has to be the originality, timing and credibility.

Naturally since I am (?) an active member here, I post news here with my site as source, IF I am among the first to break it and/or re-interpret it. Where its just a copy-paste, I reproduce part of the article and link back to the source. That SHOULD be the way, imo.

And I never said I would be leaving the forum. All I said was that, I would not post 'NEW' threads in view of such controversies. Hope this clarifies the issue to those who emailed/im'd me :) Thanx !

Let the issue pass by now ...

Regards.
 

x3060

A LOTR fan
what a waist of a thread....:(, i see nothing but members saying guide lines , that too each having posted in excess of 1000.


am not saying it was bad for any, but if it was a doubt in the guidelines in the forum

POST it in another thread...why hijack this thread...:(.any ways good to see all sttled here...it was time pass reading it ...;)

on topic....i use nod 32..and i am happy ...:)
 

fun2sh

Pawned!... Beyond GODLIKE
my goodness!yahan to Mahabharat chal raha tha!
anyways,on topic
hey wat kind of thing avast failed? i use avast. Plz clarify. nahi to main nod par shift kar lunga.

waise i posted this question before too but it seems to got lost in this YUDDHA! :confused:
 

din

Tribal Boy
I am extremely sorry, I know re-opening the closed issue is not at all a nice thing. But couldn't resist.

Why you and iMav skipped the second point mentioned by FatBeing ? ? ? ?
FatBeing said:
The "source" issue:

2. You're more than welcome to cite your personal blogs as sources, if (and only if) you are the original creator of the content. I've updated the rules to this effect.

What this means is that members should navigate thus: Digit > Original source and not Digit > member blog > original source.

If you have made previous posts that violate this rule, please take the weekend to replace your blog link with the original source. This applies to all members.

Original creator - like you make a tutorial, or a review, or you want to tell us about some service, or you found some hidden feature in some software, anything but your own. But how come the virus test review / news is your own ? ?

Please read my post in the last page. Exactly same as what FatBeing mentioned. Hes right about the copyright issue. So you can post a small section of the article and can give link to the original source, or you can put the entire article (provided there is no copyright issue) and then put your blog / site as source. Whats the confusion in that ? Why thats is a bad idea ? ?

Now think about the rule. Why it is needed. Reason. Someone post a very useful info - for example - IE has a very serious security issue, patch it as soon as possible - else your HDD will be formatted. More info here - Imagine the 'more info here link' goes to some blog which has lot of google ads, banners and all stuff (which makes it difficult to find the news at all), then we find the news there, and that is not enough, it says, for more news, click here - goes to another site which has bit more details, again goes to MS site or the original news providers site, then finally to download the patch ! This example has nothing to do with your site, it is just an example, but there is a great chance that new members here will do it if no such rules are there. The rule helps the reader to get the content very fast and when its needed instead of all these blog -> site -> some other site -> news source -> patch site -> patch download, the long way.

Also, you mentioned you are having problem managing the bandwidth of your site, you never wanted to advertise your site etc, then why you are taking trouble ? ?

Regarding other sites, yes, they may be allowing the roundabout way of blog->site->another site etc etc, it is their policy. Digit forum want to help members more and want to help members to get info in the fastest and easiest way. So there is no logic in asking mods /admin, why it is not allowed here when it is allowed in xyz site. No one is against your site or blog, it is not a personal thing either. Your site is excellent, no doubt in that. The info, news or anything, all great.But the rule is same for all, and it is only for the goodness of this forum.

And go through the rules, it says, when an old/senior member commit a mistake it is more serious !! Reason is, new members look at senior member's post for guidance, rules and style.

Finally, iMav's partial quote of FatBeing never surprised me as I know how immature some of his posts are, but when you also quoted partially, I am really surprised :(

Finally, no need to feel bad on this. I am not against you or any other member here. I had very heated fight in some threads against MS, gx, iMav and many other members got angry on those. But thats all about forum, just like iMav always says, we are all great friends outside the forum. I remember posting a total crap thread about iPhone. After seeing the response from other members, I straightaway deleted teh thread and apologized to all members. Mistakes - it happens, afterall we are all humans :)

Forget it all man, lets come back to Digit forum, in every section. We just can't miss yah :)
 

x3060

A LOTR fan
@din.....ente ponnu mashe, enthuttokkaya evedey nadakunney....

chumma adipidi caselonnum eduthu chadenda, mattullavar thammi thalli chakettae , namukkentha kariyam..;)

@fun2sh...join the NOD club....;)
 

din

Tribal Boy
@x3060

Sorry yaar, chilappo njanum immature aayiponu :( My fault. Ini sure aayittum sookshikkum. Issue close chythu :)
 

fun2sh

Pawned!... Beyond GODLIKE
are bhai log chattin karna hai to pm kiya karo na... n yeah i hav got best solution for these flame wars... USE PM OPTION N EK DOOSRE KO JITNA GALI DENA HAI DO!!:mrgreen: why to always divert a theard from topic!!


@ontopic
some body tel wat kind of test this avast failed n does this VB100 virus test thingy matter MUCH :confused:
 

blackpearl

The Devil
din said:
Original creator - like you make a tutorial, or a review, or you want to tell us about some service, or you found some hidden feature in some software, anything but your own. But how come the virus test review / news is your own ? ?

Please read my post in the last page. Exactly same as what FatBeing mentioned. Hes right about the copyright issue. So you can post a small section of the article and can give link to the original source, or you can put the entire article (provided there is no copyright issue) and then put your blog / site as source. Whats the confusion in that ? Why thats is a bad idea ? ?

Now think about the rule. Why it is needed. Reason. Someone post a very useful info - for example - IE has a very serious security issue, patch it as soon as possible - else your HDD will be formatted. More info here - Imagine the 'more info here link' goes to some blog which has lot of google ads, banners and all stuff (which makes it difficult to find the news at all), then we find the news there, and that is not enough, it says, for more news, click here - goes to another site which has bit more details, again goes to MS site or the original news providers site, then finally to download the patch ! This example has nothing to do with your site, it is just an example, but there is a great chance that new members here will do it if no such rules are there. The rule helps the reader to get the content very fast and when its needed instead of all these blog -> site -> some other site -> news source -> patch site -> patch download, the long way.

I agree with din. Original creator means when you have written it yourself. News items can never be "original". When you copy paste stuff from other sites and post it in your blog, you should give the link to the original source not yout blog. It's as simple as that. I don't know why some members are finding it so difficult to accept.
 

iMav

The Devil's Advocate
i think we can put the source issue to rest; anand has edited and added the other source and it is difficult for me or anand to get the point across so read the news if u like it be happy if u dont - close ur browser call ur parents (call ur girl friend if u want to) talk to them or take ur children out for dinner that will be more satisfying than arguing over what source to put :)
 

din

Tribal Boy
@blackpearl

As I mentioned many times, there is no use in trying to wake up someone whos pretending they are sleeping ! They know what me, drgrudge, FatBeing and all other members mentioned and explained. It is very simple but they just pretend they do not understand lol

And check the first post, the thread starting person added the second link (after drgrudge's and FatBeings warnings) to make the roundabout way even more longer.

It was digit -> his blog -> original site -> news

When he added the second source, it is now

digit -> some other site with his post -> his blog -> original site -> news

LOL !!!
 

The_Devil_Himself

die blizzard die! D3?
^^heh.

fatbeing is absolutely right---if you have written the article yourself then you have every right to give link to your blog\site\whatever,but if you have copy pasted that then you ought to give the original link.

I thought this issue wass resolved a few days back by fatty.lol.Some things never die.
 
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