kumarmohit
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Me too! And I would be voting against reservations both literally and figuratively!
Meddling the Middle Classes
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are they still? becoz the reservation keeps on increasing!! Doesn't it tell anything about the system then??
drgrudge
Another Brick in the Wall
You're not getting my point.
Congress tell they'll reserve 50% of the seats if they come to power. It's your choice if you want to vote for them.
Eventually Congress came to power. It's assumed that since people voted for us, they want us to implement reservations or atleast a majority of the people want it.
People, seriously go and vote in the next elections. It hardly takes 15 mins and usually I've good time seeing the chicks in the booth.
slugger
Banned
there are temples in the south and orissa where they are still barred from entry
a hole is cut through the wall for them to view and pray
kumarmohit
Technomancer
@ grudgy
The British ruled India for 190 years in a ruthless manner. Should we attack the island and make them pay back for something their predecessors did. No we do not do it. instead we take pleasure in hosting commonwealth games becuase they are a symbol of equality.
What is happening here is more revenge than repair! The general approach is incorrect.
The British ruled India for 190 years in a ruthless manner. Should we attack the island and make them pay back for something their predecessors did. No we do not do it. instead we take pleasure in hosting commonwealth games becuase they are a symbol of equality.
What is happening here is more revenge than repair! The general approach is incorrect.
so, what does the government do about it?
@grudgy, I get your point. the people who vote for congress knew what their policies were, is what you are insinuating. Well, yes, that is true. but, what I would like to say is, we can't agree with all the policies a party is canvassing.. Becoz, they try to cajole all the masses. We vote the best and hope they will hear our causes.
kumarmohit
Technomancer
Point ! We fcuked up the matters now it is our task to puit things right. Only thing is my condition is FUBAR.
And how do they check the person's caste before deciding of he enters or not. Do they carry i Cards? And even if such things happen, in how many temples? 5,10, 20, 100, 500 no chance of any more temples having such rules.
Why fcuk all the people for this?
And how do they check the person's caste before deciding of he enters or not. Do they carry i Cards? And even if such things happen, in how many temples? 5,10, 20, 100, 500 no chance of any more temples having such rules.
Why fcuk all the people for this?
slugger
Banned
nothing at all. we still do not hava a Uniform civil code in place
in our country the different people...different rules is actually endorsed by the state
the places of worship in question are mostyl located in village semi-village regions where most people are known to the others and theor cast is public knowledge
but the fact that such a discrimiantion is still practised is the unfortunate part, because every region no matter how rural comes under the jurisdiction of the civic administration who has the authority to take actions against the offending parties practising this discrimination
But they do nothing about it
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iMav
The Devil's Advocate
thinkdigit members should have their own seperate constituancy
everything will be perfect here
yes all be perfect thinkdigit constituency:
50% reservation for MS supporters
25% for OSS
25% for apple
The government is so not actually interested in clearing the black dot with regard to "backward caste"...
its a pity.@mohit, very true, even if they weren't allowed, I don't think its security is that big to not go inside... you can always pretend to be a person from "forward" caste if you needed so badly to get inside.
infra_red_dude
Wire muncher!
Thats what I'm asking. How will reservations uplift them??!! Does it mean that because a certain section of people were "barred from temples, jobs like sanitary or undertaker were given to them, untouchability was prevalent, education denied, etc.." they were not humans anymore? A human brain is same.. whether the person is from the so-called "upper caste" or "lower caste".
I can understand that the mental status of the people doing those work in the olden dayz was not good. What they need is love, care and acceptance in the society. But then that was the mental status in those olden dayz.
Dont' temme that even today untouchability is existent! (Lets get practical and not talk about the case prevalent in some village 2000kms from Andaman islands!).
A human brain will NOT lose its characteristics according to the situation. Its like a waterfall. When its dry it doesn't work. When its full of water (fuel - education in this case), it shines in its full glory. Hafn't we seen genius folks from the so called "backward classes"?
How will reservations helping them? Aren't they limiting the person's development? For a general merit student the cut off is 500, for a reserved category student its only 300. So isn't the reserved category student studying only for those 300 marks? Is he really getting the education? Is reservation really aiding him?
Reservations should be abolished. For the upliftment of the so-called backward classes, Govt. should instead start extra classes/coaching for the weaker people; be it studies or work. Only that would make these weaker people stand head to head with others; and mind you the "other" here can be a general merit student or can be a student from the so-called backward classes! That is real development of the weaker students from so-called backward classes, not reservations!
^ ^ @infra_red_dude,
to play devil's advocate to this argument... The fact is, the guy who studied only for 300 marks of course wouldn't contribute much constructively to the society as say the guy who was more inclined. And lets be practical here.. the guy with 300, his attitude is to exploit the system and get into a descent job where he can get a girl with good job as well and settle... As a result, it increases his standard of living. With which, the next generation would get the best education right from the start, motivation, dedication and everything to the fullest which would in ideal practice help the people.
Unfortunately, we don't know when or where to stop and how to know the next generation is provided with everything sufficiently that these things are no more necessary!
again, as you said.. lets not get carried away by people 2000kms from andaman or the like... of course those people should be still lifted.
to play devil's advocate to this argument... The fact is, the guy who studied only for 300 marks of course wouldn't contribute much constructively to the society as say the guy who was more inclined. And lets be practical here.. the guy with 300, his attitude is to exploit the system and get into a descent job where he can get a girl with good job as well and settle... As a result, it increases his standard of living. With which, the next generation would get the best education right from the start, motivation, dedication and everything to the fullest which would in ideal practice help the people.
Unfortunately, we don't know when or where to stop and how to know the next generation is provided with everything sufficiently that these things are no more necessary!
again, as you said.. lets not get carried away by people 2000kms from andaman or the like... of course those people should be still lifted.
infra_red_dude
Wire muncher!
So going by this.. isn't the 50 years of "exploitation" enuff to get a decent job, girl and settle?
Thats the whole point! Give extra coaching to students who need them coming from those so-called backward classes and GIVE reservations to people in those villages!!! Give them reservation to ENTER THE TEMPLE, TO LIVE IN THE VILLAGE!!! That is equality! Tell the so-called upper caste that ALL HUMANS ARE EQUAL!Unfortunately, we don't know when or where to stop and how to know the next generation is provided with everything sufficiently that these things are no more necessary!
again, as you said.. lets not get carried away by people 2000kms from andaman or the like... of course those people should be still lifted.
What we are doing today is: there is a fractured leg but we are giving treatment for cancer! And everybody is happy that they are getting free cancer treatment forgetting that there is a fractured leg which will not allow them to go forward!!!
kumarmohit
Technomancer
Even if you want give them reservation for better education, give it at the school level. Those are able to sit in IIT JEE are not backwards. The test charges cost above 1000 Rs.
why do you think so? when you are perfectly healthy and you and I are no different in competing ( except may be the efforts) and still why do you feel there has to be a special concern and uplift? Is it because of insecure(ness)?
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