Meddling the Middle Classes
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kumarmohit
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@ grudgy
I would happily contest in elections but the only thing is that where I live, the Municipal Councillor and MLA seats are reserved for women and parliamentary seat is reserved for SC.
This only leaves me open for Presidential elections but I am too young for that and moreover president does not have any real power in this regard in India.
I would happily contest in elections but the only thing is that where I live, the Municipal Councillor and MLA seats are reserved for women and parliamentary seat is reserved for SC.
This only leaves me open for Presidential elections but I am too young for that and moreover president does not have any real power in this regard in India.
hahahahaaI mean.. equal opportunities with reservations??!!??
how is this system in anyways helping the poor, who can't even finish schooling, let alone being interested in joining college... Isn't there where the problem is, which could be eradicated by providing scholarships, imposing fee regulations on institutions, monitoring and stuffs??
slugger
Banned
do you know, that you can actually go to the polling station and declare that you would not like to vote for any of the existing candidate. There is a clause that allows us to do that
If the magority of people choose this option, the political parties have to select new candidates for contesting
read it in JAM a long time back
If the magority of people choose this option, the political parties have to select new candidates for contesting
read it in JAM a long time back
ROTFLWow, I dint know about this. I hope this really happens when/if it has to!
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infra_red_dude
Wire muncher!
I really don't understand one thing.. the Govt. is openly calling the so-called backward classes incapable of doing anything unless reservations are provided!! (wtf is a backward class??!!! we all are equal.. we are human beings..)
I wonder who would liked to be called as a backward class.. isn't it a blot on his/her face to be called as someone backward? The Govt. is publically insulting them by calling backward!
I stand by my statement that if a person is not fit for a course/job, no reservation is gonna uplift him or her. That person should be shown the door, be it from the so-called "upper caste" or from "lower caste"!
I wonder who would liked to be called as a backward class.. isn't it a blot on his/her face to be called as someone backward? The Govt. is publically insulting them by calling backward!
I stand by my statement that if a person is not fit for a course/job, no reservation is gonna uplift him or her. That person should be shown the door, be it from the so-called "upper caste" or from "lower caste"!
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iMav
The Devil's Advocate
from what i know is that there is no such option of none of the abv on the ballot boxes
what i meant was that if we dont vote the 1 who we dont see fit, we wont have a govtI posted something and you commenting something?
Moved to Fight Club.
^ ^ to add to Imav's point,
We are not expecting an ideal/perfect government.
We only expect an understanding and flexible government which respects the people's opinions.
@infra_red_dude, what you say is very right. Actually speaking, the government is publicly insulting the backward caste reg. their incapability (even though in reality its not the case) and instead of condemning this misdemeanor, we appreciate it (as long as we can enjoy the privileges)!!
Its like getting into a religion to gain the benefits or converting from 1 religion to another because the benefits in the other is more!
@slugger, I don't think so, playing the devil's advocate also means "fight"
We are not expecting an ideal/perfect government.
We only expect an understanding and flexible government which respects the people's opinions.
@infra_red_dude, what you say is very right. Actually speaking, the government is publicly insulting the backward caste reg. their incapability (even though in reality its not the case) and instead of condemning this misdemeanor, we appreciate it (as long as we can enjoy the privileges)!!
Its like getting into a religion to gain the benefits or converting from 1 religion to another because the benefits in the other is more!
@slugger, I don't think so, playing the devil's advocate also means "fight"
kumarmohit
Technomancer
^^ like we have any government in the true sense of the word now!
slugger
Banned
it is not present on the EVM
u have to choose this option with the EC representative at the polling station. Your finger will even be inked for choosing this
drgrudge
Another Brick in the Wall
Lol, this is interesting. I never knew that seats are reserved based on castes.
See here's the problem. See the party manifesto of Congress, BSP, BJP and even regional parties like DMK, AIADMK, PMK, etc... "When we come to power, we'll implement the reservation for OBCs". I think some party (TDP, I guess - not sure) said they'll implement reservations for backward Muslims and Christians also.
There was one party, Lok Partitran which didn't have anything like this. So who is to blame when you land up in this?
Isn't that subjective? If you're OBC person (or atleast have a certificate), you'll be happy. The govt. did good for me.we elected the government to do good for us, realizing its democratic and that people will question the decisions if it is wrong or condescending, everyone makes mistakes. if they think its good, justify it. not with crazy talk. but with the good it will inflict upon the community to make the better world tomorrow!!
kumarmohit
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And how is it going to help me?
Even if they would bring new ppl the ppl would still come there coz of the reservations.
Even if they would bring new ppl the ppl would still come there coz of the reservations.
infra_red_dude
Wire muncher!
Naah.. you can always tell them that you will NOT vote, in which case they will cast a proxy vote for you!
Frankly thats the best thing.. Its been about 3-4 months since there is no Govt. in Karnataka and we've never been so happywhat i meant was that if we dont vote the 1 who we dont see fit, we wont have a govt
kumarmohit
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Time to wake up grudgy my boy, matters have gone 0ut 0f Control.
Well in that case, the government is not doing the good for people.Isn't that subjective? If you're OBC person (or at least have a certificate), you'll be happy. The govt. did good for me.
Its doing good for "one class of people"... which is perfectly good when it "doesn't affect any other class of people".
And that is what is not a visionary decision... which will further the development, progress and result in betterment.. Its a medieval illogical decision to stay in power.
kumarmohit
Technomancer
again how does it help me?
drgrudge
Another Brick in the Wall
Didn't you study history? Heard Raja Ram Mohan Roy? The reservations are stuck here because the SCs, STs and the OBCs were 'ill treated' (barred from temples, jobs like sanitary or undertaker were given to them, untouchability was prevalent, education denied, etc..). Over a period of time, they were backward in the society. To make up for the loss, the reservation system was introduced long time back.
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iMav
The Devil's Advocate
hmmm interesting thank u ....elections here come to vote for no 1
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