Malaysian Airlines crashes near Ukraine

GhorMaanas

The Vagrant Seeker
tragic and very sad event! malaysian airlines did a massive, witless blunder by charting a flight-path over that region! as it is, civilian agencies don't consider flying their planes over war-torn areas, and if it must be, then clearance is sought from the warring parties, the parties instruct their groundsmen and gunners and missile-operators and likewise, about the identity of the aircraft, radio frequencies, flight-path, and such, and to let it pass. nothing like this happened here. the airliner just tried to pass through from there merrily! stupid, STUPID agency! :-x

for now, it seems likely that the plane was shot down using a surface-to-air AA-missile instead of an AA-gun. but what kind or type of missile is yet to be determined (some are saying it was the buk missile). also, it seems that the attack was due to mistaken identity, as earlier too, two (military) aircrafts were shot down in the region in a similar manner before this, but they didn't make news as they were non-civilian crafts. now awaiting the retrieval of the FDR and the data it has to share.
 
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Hrishi

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^our PM's aircraft too had the same path , as per the media. Though they may have clearance but still thats risky. Isn't it ?
 

amjath

Human Spambot
dont know, may be its a standard aerial route. Dont say it was targetted for PM, not pointing anyone here
 

amjath

Human Spambot
WTF did i just read
A top pro-Russia rebel commander in eastern Ukraine has given a bizarre version of events surrounding the Malaysian jetliner crash — suggesting many of the victims may have died days before the plane took off.

The pro-rebel website Russkaya Vesna on Friday quoted Igor Girkin as saying he was told by people at the crash site that "a significant number of the bodies weren't fresh," adding that he was told they were drained of blood and reeked of decomposition.
Rebel leader gives bizarre account of plane crash - Yahoo News

Moscow’s bizarre conspiracy theories about MH17 attack | New York Post
 

Hrishi

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WTF did i just read

Rebel leader gives bizarre account of plane crash - Yahoo News

Moscow’s bizarre conspiracy theories about MH17 attack | New York Post
If it really is , then this is one hell of a conspiracy.
All we can do is speculate.
 

icebags

Technomancer
perhaps its the curse of peaceful times, people become too ignorant of the brutality of war, and fly over war zone just because its commercially profitable, what ignorance, when there are already incidents of plane shot downs.
*s.yimg.com/lq/i/mesg/emoticons7/46.gif
 

Anorion

Sith Lord
Staff member
Admin
me too

but they know it was a mistake and trying to cover it up... which will only add to the confusion and more conspiracy theories
 

icebags

Technomancer
more precisely, some hothead tomboy person who was in command of such a facility did it, without thinking about consequences and may be under the influence of alcohol.

but those who are keeping the war alive out there are not innocent of the case either.
 

kunalgujarathi

Cyborg Agent
I highly suspect its ruusssia who did it

Russia can't do such things in such democratic era!
Dude it will be boycotted from everything !

It's impossible for Putin government to do so!

There is some inner conspiracy!
Russia does claim that region as it's territory but they have no forces there as it's a civil war region occupied by militia !
 

Hrishi

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Why does murica have to poke its finger everywhere....... Bama poking putin for this will only add to the fury.
Russia ain't iraq. If murica pokes too much then it will get a big punch back in reply.

WW is most unlikely though. No one wants a hit to their economy.
 

kunalgujarathi

Cyborg Agent
Why does murica have to poke its finger everywhere....... Bama poking putin for this will only add to the fury.
Russia ain't iraq. If murica pokes too much then it will get a big punch back in reply.

WW is most unlikely though. No one wants a hit to their economy.

America thinks itself as ultrapower and Obama as president of world!
Crap!

European Union Belgium headquartered will investigate and if needed Scotland Yard come in picture
 
WTF did i just read

Rebel leader gives bizarre account of plane crash - Yahoo News

Moscow’s bizarre conspiracy theories about MH17 attack | New York Post

Seriously, I mean the next thing he might say is that the plane was carrying a cargo full of viruses and bombs and voodoo dolls and whatnot. The plan was shot down, the missile came from separatist controlled area, the buk launchers cannot be used by some novices, although some button smashing can give disastrous results like this. Seemingly it is the case misidentification; they thought it was a Ukrainian military plane, launched the missile, and went all panic mode when it turned out be a civilian one. Somebody need to take blame, but who will; USA never apologised when they shot the Iranian airliner, so now can we expect Russia to do same? And I don't think there is a conspiracy; Russians did a mistake, and now USA has a chance to grill them for it. (As far as I remember, Ukrainians are already scared of Buks they have with them, a similar sort of accident happened before, and the blame was on Ukraine, and then they slowed/stopped testing of such missile systems)
 

Anorion

Sith Lord
Staff member
Admin
ok I guess it's easy to believe at this point that it is some kind of conspiracy

evidence that the missile was fired by a BUK M2
How spies cracked the Malaysia Airlines MH17 missile mystery (Wired UK)

The Russians are trying to blame it on Ukraine and Malaysian Airlines in a number of ways atm, while carefully sidestepping the allegation about who actually fired the shot.
-The plane deviated from the planned fight path
-The Ukrainians asked it to fly lower
-The plane took the risk of flying over a conflict area knowingly
-Some very early Ukraine reports said their own forces shot down the plane by mistake (can't find link for this)
 

ithehappy

Human Spambot
Wonderful. Who gives a **** who shot at it? I just don't understand one thing, when they shoot at a plane they see it right? I mean if it's a passenger plane or not. Now if it's not a passenger plane, I don't give a damn honestly if some politician dies or not, but how on earth they shot a passenger plane for ****'s sake?

What is this, playing Counter Strike?
 
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