Low&Tight Budget 20k(or + 2k)

[vkattunga]

hi

this for the information..

1. What is the purpose of the computer? (Note: If you are planning to say multimedia, you will have to be more specific as all types of systems are capable of doing that)
A:Graphic Rendering(3ds Max,Maya,Z-Brush,Photo shop)

2. Are you open to alternate ideas/products giving similar better performance but offering more VFM/ sellers? If not- why?
A:yes

3. What is your MAX budget?
A:20k-22kMaximum.

4. Planning to overclock?
A:no

5. Which OS are you planning to use?
A:winXP3/win7(prof)

6. How much hard drive space is needed?
A:500GB(enough may upgrade after 3months)

7. What resolution will the screen run at & whats the size of the screen you want? If you already want have one and want to use it, mention its resolution and size.
A:1280X1024 (will upgrade monitor 21" or 19" twins after 6 months)

8. How would you rate your hardware knowledge from the count of 1-10? (1 being the lowest, 5 being you are somewhat in sync with the current performers and 10 being the highest)
A:9

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
A:yes(more than 80PCs)

10. When are you planning to buy the system?
A:june2011

11. Are you one of the types looking out for "future proof" configurations?
A:not much (but generally use for 4years/5years)

12. Are there going to be any components that you don't want to include in this new rig? If yes, do mention.
A:I already have Monitor+KBD+Mouse+Speakers and Minitower with 450w..

13. Which city do you live in and are you open to buying from shops from other city/states?
A:near vijayawada rural and vijayawada shopping city

14. Mention any other points if deemed necessary
A:

When I Phoned to shoppey, they told they have offering processor i5-2400+intelDH67BL Combo for Rs.13500/- but i have plan to go for graphics card later in 1-2months, so
for processor i believe i5-2500k would be better in my opinion..

So do let me know how i5-2500k better i5-2400 and also about dh67BL mobo for these processors.

if due to any cause i postpone this month purchasing then i may opt for processor i7-2600k + Intel mobo ...

how much hyperthreading helps rendering or video editing+conversions or image editings...

one more thing here is that some post they say no hyper threading and some place posted as hyper threading for i5 2400 and i5 2500/2500k

let me have clear view and thanks ...
suggestions welcome...

and over all i have to fit in 20k+2kmax.. if not possible then i have to postpone for 1-2months... and also what about the tax/vat???

thanks again...

 

[Cilus]

Hyper-threading helps a lot in the kind of applications you mentioned, but the cheapest SandyBridge processor with HT enabled is i7 2600 @ 14.6K, out of your budget.
Here is my suggestion
Core i5 2400 @ 9.3K
Intel DH67BL-B3Intel DH67BL-B3 @ 6K
Corsaar 1333 Mhz 4 GB single stick Value Ram @ 2.1K
Seagate 500 GB 7200.12 SATA @ 1.7K
FSP SAGA II 500W @ 2.1K

Total 21.2K. Suggested a quality PSU as your 450W local PSU cannot handle all those things.

 

[vkattunga]

Thank you

Cilus

Here is my suggestion
Core i5 2400 @ 9.3K
Intel DH67BL-B3Intel DH67BL-B3 @ 6K
Corsaar 1333 Mhz 4 GB single stick Value Ram @ 2.1K
Seagate 500 GB 7200.12 SATA @ 1.7K
FSP SAGA II 500W @ 2.1K

for the above valued information..

can you do let me know about the 15-2500K incase to i5-2400 for the above said...

as per my contact with one of the buyer informed i5-2400+DH67BL combo is 13.5konly(this is clear for me)

will it be worth to go for i5-2500k+4gb another stick..
thanks again..
vish

 

[saswat23]

No need of going for a 'k' series proccy with H67 mobo. Cilus' rig is perfect. Just go for it.
BTW i5-2400 + DH67BL at 13.5k is a steal. Grab that immediately.

 

[Cilus]

vkattunga, the 'K' series processors from Intel have unlocked multiplier and when paired with a P67 or Z68 chipset based motherboard, they can be overclocked by just increasing the multiplier. But the cheapest P67 mobo will cost you around 9.5K and the cheapest K series processor will cost you around 10.5K...total around 21K for the CPU+Mobo...out of your budget.

And for now, 4GB is enough to handle your needs. Add another 4 GB later.

 

[topgear]

^^ just a bit of info :

Asus P8P67-M ( cheapest P67 mobo ) is 7.9k and

 

[vickybat]

^^ Terrific pricing buddy. Thanks for the info. This will be recommended over an intel p67 board.

 

[topgear]

^^ you're welcome

 

[vkattunga]

hi
thank you all for the valuable information ...

please do let me have one more information if my budget can be changed to 30k(22k+8K more)
let me have options..

thank you for valuable suggestions and will there be any, much change in pricing if i wait for next month(July)...
the reason for this postponing aroused as to increase my budget for s.30k+2/3k..
which would be little ease fr me on my pocket...

thanks you guys.. you are great....

vish

 

[shayem]

IMO wait and increase budget. And if price drop by then (hoping it will ), get:

Intel i7 2600[14.5k now]
Asus P8Z68-V[12k now]
Corsair or G-Skill 1333MHz value RAM(Avoid corsair xms3).
Seagate HDD as per your choice
FSP SAGA II 500W or Corsair GS600W

Edit:

You can get Gigabyte GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3 @ 9.5K

 

[topgear]

even for a non ocer with moderate budget it's good to get i7 2600K cpu - as the budget can be increased so might be the need for speed in the future - so with a Z68 mobo it's better to get a 2600k

 

[nginx]

If you are firm on not OCing, don't get a k series. Get an i7 2600 because you plan to use your computer for 3D rendering and video editing. Hyperthreading will help you there.

As for mobo, get the Asus H67 for as low as 6-6.5k. I am sure you don't need to SLI/Crossfire and since you don't want to overclock either, H67 will be perfect for you. You can even use the Intel IGP for blistering encoding speeds.

PSU - FSP saga II 500W - 2.1k

HDD - 500gb Seagate - 1.7k

Corsair Value RAM 2GB - 1.9k (Make sure its 1.5v)

 

[shayem]

@nginx I think with his kind of work he can take advantage of Z68 mobos.

 

[vkattunga]

hi

as per above suggestion i believe this is what i have to be considering...

but before let me clear again the purpose, which is for 3dsmax, maya, photoshop, compositing
and video editing(overall multimedia oriented heavy duty including animation sequence
image rendering for 1080p resolution for video O/P)+conversions.

so i am thinking to go with this(will go with graphics card and extra ram later in 2-3 months or even less)

for the time being for pulling on the road of my living (my selections goes)

still not yet confirmed as depends on the availability...



Intel Core i7 2600k - 15500/-
Intel DH67BL - 4500/-
Corsaar 1333 Mhz 4 GB single stick Value Ram @ 2.1K
Seagate 500 GB 7200.12 SATA @ 1.7K
FSP SAGA II 500W @ 2.1K
total--26k
(maybe 1k more depends on market op)
(budget is below 30k thats what i hope)


thinking of oc may go for z68 mobo later (but not serious now)...

thanks to all you guys and will be back with the latest information and thinking to purchase in the coming 2 days...

thanks again.....
vish

 

[shayem]

'' 2600K with H67 mobo. why??? If you are not going to OC then you don't need K series waste of money for now. But if you decide to OC after 3-4yrs. then you can OC 2600 too with P67\Z68 mobo.

3dsmax, maya, photoshop, compositing
and video editing(overall multimedia oriented heavy duty including animation sequence
image rendering for 1080p resolution for video O/P)+conversions.

Z68 mobo is must for you. If budget is prob. get GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3. But you have to preorder it I think.

 

[vkattunga]

yes

i am thinking for z68combination but not sure about the availability brands here...

shayem

'' 2600K with H67 mobo. why??? If you are not going to OC then you don't need K series waste of money for now. But if you decide to OC after 3-4yrs. then you can OC 2600 too with P67\Z68 mobo.

Z68 mobo is must for you. If budget is prob. get GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3. But you have to preorder it I think.

recently last 2 days one of my system is showing death symtops...

thank you all..

One more thing i am not sure about the availability of corsaar or Gskill ripjaw...

can i go other makes with 1600 speeds...
will there be that much change in performance(as RAM is the main Highly used component)..

vish

Please do let me have clear info that i can oc with 2600 also without k..
what about sync conversions etc are better with 2600k.. i don't know how these 2600&k processors internal design changes...

thank uuuuuuussssss

And i thinking to use onboard GPU of 2600..

for 2/3months..

thankssss..

let me also know that onboard gpu will use the RAMs that we provide(no dedicated RAMDAC is available)..

So sharing the RAMs will it decrease in performace and compatible mother board other than intel "DGH67BL" for 2600/k..

vish

 

[topgear]

2600 and 2600k don't have much difference - the K series means unlocked multiplier for OCers and the non K series is more suitable for the users who don't want to OC though this cpu can be oced mildly you need to have a P67/Z68 mobo for that anyway.

So if you are going to get a H67 mobo it's better to get 2600 and if a z68 mobo ( now or later ) get the core i7 2600k - as I've posted before the 2600K worth the extra 1-1.5k you pay for it if you are willing to get a Z68 mobo.

here read this to understand SB cpus Ocing :
AnandTech - The Sandy Bridge Review: Intel Core i7-2600K, i5-2500K and Core i3-2100 Tested

and this to know about intel quick sync tech :
AnandTech - The Sandy Bridge Review: Intel Core i7-2600K, i5-2500K and Core i3-2100 Tested

and here's SB cpus dedicated gfx performance
AnandTech - The Sandy Bridge Review: Intel Core i7-2600K, i5-2500K and Core i3-2100 Tested

 

[shayem]

@topgear

@vkattunga get 2600k+Z68 now and buy GPU later(as you decided). But don't just get any Z68 mobo from Gigabyte. Get GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3(micro atx) or GA-Z68A-D3H-B3(atx). 2nd one is better in IMO. Will cost you around 9000-11000 AKAIK. Get Corsair vengence or RipjawsX@ 2400(4GBx1).Those are best AFAIK. Else get 1600MHz 1.5V RAM.

And post your config here before buying them.

 

[vkattunga]

hi all

topgear

and this to know about intel quick sync tech :
AnandTech - The Sandy Bridge Review: Intel Core i7-2600K, i5-2500K and Core i3-2100 Tested

in this link it has charted Intel Core i5-2500K but not i7/i3...(second chart) and gives 5 streams...


Having already decided on an i7 I originaly was going to get the 2600K without putting much thought into it, but I'm begining to reconsider.
I'm starting to wonder if a 50% price increase is worth it to pickup hyperthreading and 2MB of cache. Value wise it certainly isn't as you aren't going to get a 50% performance increase to the price investment..

I'm expecting to see, everyone else's thoughts

My heart says 2600K. In mind favouring 2500K..

Swivelling mind and too hot to decide...(20/25days gap due to my small project pending)
In between i will getsome price information/drop prices and product information from the shoppees also...

shayem

GA-Z68A-D3H-B3(atx)
Will cost you around 9000-11000 AKAIK. Get Corsair vengence or RipjawsX@ 2400(4GBx1).Those are best AFAIK

what about
Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3R-B3--10,750 INR(priceguide.in) any opinions...

i7-2600k(i will go for the hyper threading also lets see how it fetches life along OC)---15k
GA-Z68?????----????
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for above to be fixed items total---15K+

these are fixed no change..
Corsaar 1333 Mhz 4 GB single stick Value Ram @ 2.1K(else 1600Mhz RAM depending on market availability)
Seagate 500 GB 7200.12 SATA @ 1.7K
FSP SAGA II 500W @ 2.1K
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for above fixed items total---6k~

thnks

for RAM with 1.5v for any make...

that too frm known brands...

 

[saswat23]

Definitely go with a Z68 board with i7-2600k as you are not going to add a GPU now so that it will give the features of both OC and using the iGPU i.e HD 3000 graphics.
For RAM go with any of the following:
GSkill RipJaws 4GB DDR3 @ 2.2k
Corsair VENGEANCE 4GB DDR3 @ 2.5k
Corsair XMS3 4GB DDR3 @ 2.3k

If any of these isn't available then you can go for Kingston 4GB DDR3.