How Indian Android Device Manufacturers are Fooling and Misleading You
Hrishi
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Everybody has got different requirements and budget, so different options. No one has got the right to bash one's choice.
And if the mighty apple can do false marketing, then why can't our own companies? At least they're providing users their dream device which was impossible for them at a point of them. Of course, with it, comes some negatives, but c'mon, you can't get everything right?
And if the mighty apple can do false marketing, then why can't our own companies? At least they're providing users their dream device which was impossible for them at a point of them. Of course, with it, comes some negatives, but c'mon, you can't get everything right?
Nerevarine
Incarnate
^Agree with you ..
Also take into consideration that the phone may be bad but the chipset is capable FOR THE MONEY..
You guys seriously need to take that into consideration.. I have mentioned this in another thread, mediateks are a good alternative to qualcomm but it's the manufacturer that must implement the build quality and optimisations..
Also take into consideration that the phone may be bad but the chipset is capable FOR THE MONEY..
You guys seriously need to take that into consideration.. I have mentioned this in another thread, mediateks are a good alternative to qualcomm but it's the manufacturer that must implement the build quality and optimisations..
Hrishi
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And when you get a fault in the device ( which happens more often in those cheap mediocre, middle-class piece of phones.) , then we get all kind of posts Crying "Don't buy MMX,Lava,etc,etc.They are crap , they don't have A.S.S. , they are so and so.....and all kind of things..."
If you buy one of these and they fail at it , should love to live with the fact.Stop crying for things you didn't paid for.
TBH , there's still a line between really cheap piece of hardware and cheap bulk production (made in china).
All I gotta say is that these cheap droids are forcing the brand companies to reduce the production cost so as to stick to the competition and thus they are also forced to follow the same route.
Anyways , the article focuses mainly on the false marketing practices. And if someone thinks Apple does false marketing then they should also know that even Apple get bashed for it on the net.
If you buy one of these and they fail at it , should love to live with the fact.Stop crying for things you didn't paid for.
TBH , there's still a line between really cheap piece of hardware and cheap bulk production (made in china).
All I gotta say is that these cheap droids are forcing the brand companies to reduce the production cost so as to stick to the competition and thus they are also forced to follow the same route.
Anyways , the article focuses mainly on the false marketing practices. And if someone thinks Apple does false marketing then they should also know that even Apple get bashed for it on the net.
I was searching for the Canvas 4 in the market recently to have it but everyone is criticizing it like hell here 
:'(
Now i'm all messed up whether to buy it or not? This was the only choice left to me at this price range.
Anyone's there to help me on that? You say performance won't be up to the mark and all. I seriously was looking for some good brands than micromax but did not got any other option at this price range?
I'm now thinking to go on Nokia Lumia 720?
Would that be an Alternative for Android?
:'(Now i'm all messed up whether to buy it or not? This was the only choice left to me at this price range.
Anyone's there to help me on that? You say performance won't be up to the mark and all. I seriously was looking for some good brands than micromax but did not got any other option at this price range?
I'm now thinking to go on Nokia Lumia 720?
Would that be an Alternative for Android?
BombayBoy
Journeyman
I was searching for the Canvas 4 in the market recently to have it but everyone is criticizing it like hell here
Now i'm all messed up whether to buy it or not? This was the only choice left to me at this price range.
Anyone's there to help me on that? You say performance won't be up to the mark and all. I seriously was looking for some good brands than micromax but did not got any other option at this price range?
I'm now thinking to go on Nokia Lumia 720?
Would that be an Alternative for Android?
Your money, your choice.
Try Windows phone. If you like it, buy it.
One size doesn't fit all.
omega44-xt
Gear up ...
These cheap companies give VFM phones. Take Xolo Q700/800, both are just awesome for its price(9k n 10k). 1GB Ram n A7 quad core......much better than other phones in that range. Camera isn't good but its good for its price nowadays. Better or atleast comparable to phones from reputed companies.
I once checked camera quality of Canvas 2, i must say, it was good, i compared it with S2, i think it was as good or even better than Xperia U(my friend has it). For a 10k phone, that's good.
I once checked camera quality of Canvas 2, i must say, it was good, i compared it with S2, i think it was as good or even better than Xperia U(my friend has it). For a 10k phone, that's good.
A.S.S of Samsung and Sony too is not great My brother's Galaxy Y is having display problems and service center is asking 2k for fixing it which is pretty lame considering a new galaxy Y is available for 5k.
Only exception is Nokia who provides very good services.
Even these companies don't have good phones within 10k range crappy A5 dual core or sometime even A5 single core take example of Xperia E now these small companies are providing very good options within 10k price range for example Xolo Q700,Q800,Q1000 and play both build quality and internals are better than Xperia E.
Due to steep completion for these companies Sony is starting to use meditek Chipsets And some good phones are going to released from their stable.
Empirial
Youngling
I was searching for the Canvas 4 in the market recently to have it but everyone is criticizing it like hell here
Now i'm all messed up whether to buy it or not? This was the only choice left to me at this price range.
Anyone's there to help me on that? You say performance won't be up to the mark and all. I seriously was looking for some good brands than micromax but did not got any other option at this price range?
I'm now thinking to go on Nokia Lumia 720?
Would that be an Alternative for Android?
Get a Xolo Q700 for 8.5k and don't be sorry for your decision because its lot better than phones from Sony,Samsung within this price range.
Don't give priority to brands buy what ever is value for money. I got Sony Tipo about a year ago for 10k and I am now regretting upon my decision crappy screen resolution, Single core A7 processor which even can't play a 720p videos , very bad camera etc.
Yes, but no companies is manufacturing everything themselves . Even apple I phones are made by Foxconn. Even Nokia chargers are made in china.
These small Indian companies helps our country economically that's a good thing I agree on you that these companies should improve A.S.S.
AndroidFan
Peak Oil is real!
My cousin wanted to buy a Samsung Galaxy S3, an upgrade from his Galaxy S2. All that teenager does is use whatsapp and a few simple games, and very few pictures if any. I forced him to buy a Karbonn S5 Titanium. He is happy with the performance. Most people are like that... Phones are for bragging rights. Actual uses are few. He can happily show his Quad-core phone with 5" screen and 8 MP camera to his friends. I saved his father some money...
Yes, its a processor core race, like it was megapixel race in cameras... 95% of the people don't go into the details they won't understand.
But the biggest cheat are companies like Samsung, who began this multicore race and megapixel race. Samsung has devices like Galaxy Core and Quattro which have crappy A5 processors and Adreno 203 GPU which is a piece of sh*t. Who can blame Indian manufacturers when they do better than Samsung. A lot of Indian manufacturers use Mediatech A7 cores with PowerGR 531 GPU, at a lot more affordable costs than Samsung can.
My hope is our Indian/Chinese manufacturers will mature overtime, and improve quality the overall quality of devices. Its already happening. Micromax/Karbonn/Intex/Ceylon/Byond/iBall/etc have improved a lot in built quality compared to last year. This improvement will continue... Competition is good for the customer.
It's service only, most phones are made in china, some sammy and nokia ones in india. They all source components from the same group of companies. RAM will be samsung or Toshiba. Glass will be Corning or Asahi on mmx, karbonn, sony and apple. As rightly pointed out oem's design is superficial - connectors, buttons, screws. not gpu, cpu, touch screen controller, cameras... All those are licensed from third parties, and they are sourced from the same handful of companies in all phones.
theterminator
Wise Old Owl
Yeah, I was one of them when I was reading the specs of Lumia 510 which has 256MB RAM. I thought , What the hell! This will not even play music
but after reading the differences between WP & Android, my mind was changed.I think the article is misleading. Indian brands have made it possible to own a 5" smartphone within 10k range. That speaks a lot. Yes, people will then complain about the A.S.S. like all hell's broken loose but then again they have a right to ask questions, isn't it? Did anywhere the companies mention we are going to provide sh!t A.S.S.? No, so don't take away the rights of the customer.
My Samsung Galaxy Y S5360 was damaged badly after it was accidentally spilled onto soup
lol: I know). I was so fed up with the phone (would hang even if I installed whatsapp, tried all the tricks in the book Links2SD n whatnot) that I thought this is a good chance to ruin the phone for good & get a new one twisted. So, I cleaned it up with Water & made sure it cleaned every corner of the device . Samsung said it would take Rs. 2850 to repair which would include replacing the motherboard. I dumped it instead .
mohit9206
Ambassador of Buzz
In my opinion the service offered by a product you purchase is more important than the product itself.That is why internationally Samsung,Sony ,Htc,etc are more popular than say Huwaei,Alcatel,etc even they are much more expensive.Even in India which is a very price conscious market people want good ASS that is why in India Samsung and Nokia are still number 1 and 2.Just because MMx,Lava,Karbonn offer good specs at low prices does not excuse their poor ASS.Customer satisfaction is most important which these companies have failed to achieve.I bought MMx phone last year and had network problem within 3 months gave it for service took 2 weeks to get it repaired and that too only partially but thankfully the phone is still working well for one and half years now.My next phone will be either Samsung or Nokia.
srkmish
Ambassador of Buzz
And what makes you say that samsung will have better service than Micromax?. My Friend's galaxy y is lying for 2 months now after being dead at service centre.
Fantastic point man. Some of my friends with Nexus 4 and Galaxy s4 , all they do is listen to some music and chat on watsapp. It has now become a style statement and gives great bragging rights. OF course. i would have purchased it if i had that kind of cash to spend on luxury. But being a middle class indian, i have my priorities and happy with my Lava 501 which i actually use to play games
gopi_vbboy
Cyborg Agent
I also feel the same.. you get what you pay
I have galaxy s2 and my father recently got a Zen 701HD.
*Samsung GS2(Costs 25k now) has >> 1.2Ghz dual core ARM Cortex A9
701HD(Costed 12k) has >>1.2GHZ quad-core MediaTek MT6589 Cortex A7
Now when the 701HD was new, it seemed faster than my Galaxy s2.
But soon about 3months now, it has become slow ..even slower than s2.
*Not sure why its happening , i think our moderator Cilus
should pour some gyan on cpu arch.
*the software in these local phones are not upto mark.They use CM10
customized and also remove few features of standard code.
As rightly said has poor support in community.
*+Charger sucks big time.They have made usb cable
and charger into same thing.Like xperia.Sucks in length.
Its better to have branded phone anyday
I have galaxy s2 and my father recently got a Zen 701HD.
*Samsung GS2(Costs 25k now) has >> 1.2Ghz dual core ARM Cortex A9
701HD(Costed 12k) has >>1.2GHZ quad-core MediaTek MT6589 Cortex A7
Now when the 701HD was new, it seemed faster than my Galaxy s2.
But soon about 3months now, it has become slow ..even slower than s2.
*Not sure why its happening , i think our moderator Cilus
should pour some gyan on cpu arch.
*the software in these local phones are not upto mark.They use CM10
customized and also remove few features of standard code.
As rightly said has poor support in community.
*+Charger sucks big time.They have made usb cable
and charger into same thing.Like xperia.Sucks in length.
Its better to have branded phone anyday
SaiyanGoku
kamehameha!!
Agreed with the article, added to my sig.
Wannabe_a_techie
Broken In
Made in China, but 100% Indian
These companies are now moving into the mid to high-end segments (price range of Rs 14,000 – Rs 20,000) and as such they need better technologies. For that, they either need to own the technology or have the patents in place.
home-grown vendor Lava has applied for two patents in India. “Our patents pertain to software related with audio and typing (in-built keyboards). It will take sometime for these patents to be cleared,” S N Rai, co-founder and director, Lava Mobiles, said.
Micromax, Lava, Intex and most of the other vendors have their own design studios. While the handsets are manufactured in China, the so-called research and development is being carried out in India. At the most Indian vendors can explore possibilities of having assembling units here in the country.
“None of the important elements of a mobile phone are manufactured in India. We do not have those facilities,” he said adding: “In short Indian handsets are actually not at all Indian. They are all made in China.”
These companies are now moving into the mid to high-end segments (price range of Rs 14,000 – Rs 20,000) and as such they need better technologies. For that, they either need to own the technology or have the patents in place.
home-grown vendor Lava has applied for two patents in India. “Our patents pertain to software related with audio and typing (in-built keyboards). It will take sometime for these patents to be cleared,” S N Rai, co-founder and director, Lava Mobiles, said.
Micromax, Lava, Intex and most of the other vendors have their own design studios. While the handsets are manufactured in China, the so-called research and development is being carried out in India. At the most Indian vendors can explore possibilities of having assembling units here in the country.
“None of the important elements of a mobile phone are manufactured in India. We do not have those facilities,” he said adding: “In short Indian handsets are actually not at all Indian. They are all made in China.”