Hitman wants gaming machine...........But only has 70K.......

[hitman4]

Cpu : AMD FX8350 Rs.12500
Ram : Gskill Ripjaws 2 X 4gb Rs.3000
Hard Disk : Western Digital Caviar Blue 500gb Rs.3500
Power Supply : Corsair GS600 Rs.4500
Optical Drive : Asus 24X B5ST Rs.1000
Cabinet : NZXT Gama Rs.2500
Keyboard & Mouse: Any Brand for Rs.1000
UPS : APC Black 1100 Rs.5250
OS : Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Rs.6750
TOTAL : Rs.40000

OK if I go with AMD now give me a Monitor motherboard and a graphics card for Rs.30000 and what if I open my piggi bank and get extra Rs.5000.
So please give both suggestion

Buddy, go with the AOC Monitor I have suggested earlier. The Dell Monitor is based on TN Panel which does not offer good color reporudction and depth. On the other hand the AOC display is built with IPS panel which is used in most of the consumer LCD TV and offers far better quality. Price will be 400 to 500 bucks higher than the Dell one.

And since you are in tight budget, why not going with the FX-8350 based configuration I have suggested? That will offer you better performance than i5 3470 in every aspect and same or slight better performance in Gaming. Also it will let you overclock your system to fetch extra performance. If you want a better future-proof configuration then go with it. For Motherboard, you can get a good Gigabyte or ASUS 970 chipset based board around 6 to 6.5K which will offer you better build quality, good overclocking and both SATA III and USB 3.0 features.

thank you for reply

OH MY GODDDDDDDD.......

I was surching the net and found this article showing that i5 3470 is 30% faster than Fx8350...
*www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/FX-8350-vs-Core-i5-3470-CPU-Review/1657/18

 

[Cilus]

Buddy, have a look here"
AnandTech - Bench - CPU

(Avoid the Sysmark Benchmarks, it is a benchmark which favors only Intel CPU, any other manufactures including AMD and Nvidia don't support it)

I told you earlier, if you game at lower resolution like 1366X768 or 1600X900 then i5 performs better. But @ 1080P or higher resolution, 99% of the games become more GPU dependent and you just need a good enough CPU which can handle the Graphics card without bottle-necking it. FX 8350 can compete well against the i5 in terms of gaming performance at 1080P or higher resolution.

 

[hitman4]

Buddy, have a look here"
AnandTech - Bench - CPU

(Avoid the Sysmark Benchmarks, it is a benchmark which favors only Intel CPU, any other manufactures including AMD and Nvidia don't support it)

I told you earlier, if you game at lower resolution like 1366X768 or 1600X900 then i5 performs better. But @ 1080P or higher resolution, 99% of the games become more GPU dependent and you just need a good enough CPU which can handle the Graphics card without bottle-necking it. FX 8350 can compete well against the i5 in terms of gaming performance at 1080P or higher resolution.

so pls suggest motherboard, graphics card and monitor in 30k for FX8350

 

[The Incinerator]

^^
For a Gaming System you are going the wrong way.

 

[hitman4]

^^
For a Gaming System you are going the wrong way.

can you be more specefic

 

[The Incinerator]

^^
Yet the FX-8350's gaming performance almost exactly matches that of the Core i3-3225, a $134 Ivy Bridge-based processor. Meanwhile, the Core i5-3470 delivers markedly superior gaming performance for less money than the FX-8350. The FX-8350 isn't exactly bad for video games—its performance was generally acceptable in our tests. But it is relatively weak compared to the competition.

This strange divergence between the two performance pictures isn't just confined to gaming, of course. The FX-8350 is also relatively pokey in image processing applications, in SunSpider, and in the less widely multithreaded portions of our video encoding tests. Many of these scenarios rely on one or several threads, and the FX-8350 suffers compared to recent Intel chips in such cases. Still, the contrast between the FX-8350 and the Sandy/Ivy Bridge chips isn't nearly as acute as it was with the older FX processors. Piledriver's IPC gains and that 4GHz base clock have taken the edge off of our objections.

The other major consideration here is power consumption, and really, the FX-8350 isn't even the same class of product as the Ivy Bridge Core i5 processors on this front. There's a 48W gap between the TDP ratings of the Core i5 parts and the FX-8350, but in our tests, the actual difference at the wall socket between two similarly configured systems under load was over 100W. That gap is large enough to force the potential buyer to think deeply about the class of power supply, case, and CPU cooler he needs for his build. One could definitely get away with less expensive components for a Core i5 system.

That's likely why AMD has offered some inducements to buy the FX-8350, including a very generous $195 price tag and an unlocked multiplier. If you're willing to tolerate more heat and noise from your system, if you're not particularly concerned about the occasional hitch or slowdown while gaming, if what you really want is maximum multithreaded performance for your dollar... well, then the FX-8350 may just be your next CPU. I can't say I would go there, personally. I've gotten too picky about heat and noise over time, and gaming performance matters a lot to me. Still, with the FX-8350, AMD has returned to a formula that has endeared it to PC enthusiasts time and time again: offering more performance per dollar than you'd get with the other guys, right in that sub-$200 sweet spot. That's the sort of progress we can endorse.

AMD's FX-8350 processor reviewed - The Tech Report - Page 14



You are going the wrong way for a 70K Gaming System. My two cents.

 

[hitman4]

thanks 4 the reply

Intel i5 3470 11300
Asrock H77 PRO 4 7500
Corsair Vengance 2 X 4gb 1600Mhz 3000
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3300
Sapphire HD 7950 OC 22500
BenQ GL2250HM 8300
Corsair GS600 4500
Bitfenix Shinobi 4000
ASUS DRW-24B3ST SATA 1000
Windows 8 3500
Logitech k200 400
Logitech g400 1500
Razer Goliuthas 500

TOTAL 71000

WHERE CAN I IMPROVE.....?

 

[SunE]

Buy GSkill Ripjaws X instead of Corsair Vengeance. Also change the cabby to a NZXT Gamma and put the saved bucks in buying a 1TB hard drive since the games you wanna play are extremely large in size and 500GB would give you storage trouble pretty soon.

 

[hitman4]

thanks for the reply i will buy ripjaws instead of vengance.
i was thinking of bitfenix shinobi because of cable management..
what do you think

 

[Cilus]

Incinerator, From that review link you have posted, I didn't understand why OP is going wrong way if he gets a FX-8350. It is only 6 Fps slower than i5 2550K and around 10 FPS compared to i5 3570K; i5 3470 is not even at the comparison chart. Now 82 FPS is not at all anything which can be called as wrong as OP's display's maximum refresh rate is 60 Hz or it can show only 60 FPS in a second. So anything over 60, he can't see it. Another cache is OP can't make a system with 2550K or 3570K at his budget as it needs a good Z77 motherboard costing around 10K+.
Also the chart you have posted is from WOW, which is not at all any Graphically demanding game and heavily relies on CPU performance. Check the Anandtech CPU Comparison link I have posted between i5 3470 and FX-8350 and you will find out that even at 1680X1050 resolution, both the CPU has comparable gaming performance and if you increase the resolution to 1080P or higher, they become more or less similar. Also you can overclock the FX-8350 to get extra performance, specially in gaming, which is not at all possible with i5 3470. At stock speed, i5 3470 is even faster than i7 3770 but that does not stop us recommending i7 3770.

 

[gameranand]

thanks for the reply i will buy ripjaws instead of vengance.
i was thinking of bitfenix shinobi because of cable management..
what do you think

I don't see anything wrong with Corsair Vengeance RAM, I am using them and they are performing quite good, I know that they are not very good overclocking RAM but RAM is the last thing that you would overclock anyway and its a little cheaper so it will save you some money.
As for Cabinet, what is the budget for Cabinet ?

 

[hitman4]

4k is the budget for cabinet

 

[SunE]

The height of Vengeance RAM is greater than RipjawsX. A low profile RAM helps in the installation of a custom cooler a bit. Otherwise both are great performers.

 

[gameranand]

4k is the budget for cabinet

Extend that a bit and get Corsair Carbide 400R.

The height of Vengeance RAM is greater than RipjawsX. A low profile RAM helps in the installation of a custom cooler a bit. Otherwise both are great performers.

But Vengeance looks better. Anyway its upto OP what he'll buy, IMO both are good.

 

[kapilove77]

Listen to cilus plz he giving you best setup with your budget and you wont regret it also in that budget if you go with amd you will get better benefits than intel's like more bang on bucks setup and equally good performance. Trust me in real world these 2-5 fps doesn't matter.

 

[Cilus]

^^ Especially when both are over 80 FPS in a 60 Hz monitor.

 

[vickybat]

FX 8350 is a better buy that i5 3470 coz of the following reasons:

1. Its similarly priced and has better performance per dollar/rupee ( multithreaded performance)
2. Its an unlocked processor and can be overclocked on the fly.
3. Comes with a very good cpu cooler that is miles ahead than what intel offers.
4. Its ideal for a balanced system over non k intel cpus as they are locked with no additional performance improvement. 5-6 fps difference in games won't matter especially at 1080p or higher
where its same.
5.The am3+ platform still has an upgrade path to amd's upcoming steamroller cpu's. Ivybridge platform has no upgrade path as haswell socket will be different.

So summarizing everything, fx8350 seems to be a good choice.

 

[hitman4]

i am totally confused...
some are saying i5 3470 is better for GAMMING and some say that FX8350 is better can anyone please give an unbiased opinion on this....
because i dont think i will upgrade my pc for atleast 2 years from now and main purpose of pc is just gaming....

Intel i5 3470 11300
Asrock H77 PRO 4 7500
Corsair Vengance 2 X 4gb 1600Mhz 3000
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3300
Sapphire HD 7950 OC 22500
BenQ GL2250HM 8300
Corsair GS600 4500
Bitfenix Shinobi 4000
ASUS DRW-24B3ST SATA 1000
Windows 8 3500
Logitech k200 400
Logitech g400 1500
Razer Goliuthas 500
TOTAL 71000

AMD FX8350 12500
Gigabyte GA990FXA UD3 9500
Corsair Vengance 2 X 4gb 1600Mhz 3000
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3300
Sapphire HD 7870 OC 18500
BenQ GL2250HM 8300
Corsair GS600 4500
Bitfenix Shinobi 4000
ASUS DRW-24B3ST SATA 1000
Windows 8 3500
Logitech k200 400
Logitech g400 1500
Razer Goliuthas 500
TOTAL 70500

NOW PLS TELL WHICH IS BETTER

 

[vickybat]

^^ First one is better as it has a stronger gpu (7950). 2nd one has a better processor that has good multithreaded performance and can be overclocked but weak gpu (7870).

i5 3570k is the match for 8350 because that can be overclocked to match or surpass 8350 and is more expensive too.
Like i said, in gaming you won't be able to tell any difference at 1080p.

If gaming is all you need, then stick with intel configuration + 7950 gpu. It will have a stronger gaming performance advantage.

 

[Myth]

FX 8350 is a better buy that i5 3470 coz of the following reasons:

1. Its similarly priced and has better performance per dollar/rupee ( multithreaded performance)
2. Its an unlocked processor and can be overclocked on the fly.
3. Comes with a very good cpu cooler that is miles ahead than what intel offers.
4. Its ideal for a balanced system over non k intel cpus as they are locked with no additional performance improvement. 5-6 fps difference in games won't matter especially at 1080p or higher
where its same.
5.The am3+ platform still has an upgrade path to amd's upcoming steamroller cpu's. Ivybridge platform has no upgrade path as haswell socket will be different.

So summarizing everything, fx8350 seems to be a good choice.

Nicely done. Feels like my school teacher just summarized the relevant points of the last chapter

Point 3> Feel cheated with a cooler like than. Atleast they could provide something better for k-series procs.

@OP: Take the fx8350. The overall benefits are higher than i5 3470